User talk:Fox fourtyfive

I've reverted your edits
Hi. Welcome to Wikipedia. You made a lot of unhelpful edits on PhinDeli, Wyoming and Buford, Wyoming without even asking on the respective talk pages and it looks like vandalism. Usually if you intend to make changes like that it's best to discuss the issue. I've reverted your edits, so now we can discuss why you persist in calling PhinDeli Buford. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 01:42, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Thank you for the welcome. I appreciate your getting back to me quickly. I did not mean to jump into the deep end. The Buford 82052 region is significant with roughly three hundred families, including everything from private residences to small businesses, and all courier deliverers and the postal services formally recognize tis. Wikipedia sees tens of thousand of users daily. Imagine the confusion if those users thought the addresses of everyone from courier recipients to small businesses had changed. Google-map-search Buford 82052 for yourself. Buford, Wyoming is a geographical place name - that this man has bought the trading post does not change this fact. Thank you for your consideration, (Fox fourtyfive (talk) 04:37, 31 December 2013 (UTC)) I would add that it was not my intent to vandalize, only to clarify. (Fox fourtyfive (talk))
 * I disagree. The article and its references state that the town (not simply a trading post) was bought and renamed. Unless you have reliable sources to state otherwise, the town name stays as is.  I will grant you that most locals likely still know the town as Buford and refer to it as such.  I doubt any real confusion would be caused amongst postal customers and other businesses, as the lede mentions prominently that the town used to be called Buford.
 * On a separate note, please sign your comments by using four tildes at the end of your comments and use the edit summary when you edit. Wikipedia has been around for more than a decade and we have developed a lot of rules for how stuff is done.  It will take some getting used to.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 06:57, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for responding quickly. To address the second part of your post, did use the signature method recommended ,(Fox fourtyfive (talk)), and I see the Date and time stamp along with my signature clearly. I followed your thoughtfully provided link and see it is up to me to be sure that this is visible to all, so if it still does not show for you, I would ask for further help from you in this matter. I will also use the edit summary from now on, I see it is used far to little as I look around Wikipedia. As far as you disagreeing with what I said, I think you might think differently if someone published on a viable source that your given address had been changed. I never said I objected to him changing the name of his property, just that he linked it to infer that my address has changed. Might I suggest I create my own page...say Buford, Wyoming (82052) and sight it's existence using sources other than Newspaper articles? I See that The PhinDeli page is just the old Buford page, I would hope that anything I created would not be redirected to this page also. Thank you for your help in this, you have been very patient with a new user. (Fox fourtyfive (talk))

Ok, I used the "typing four tildes" again to sign and date my last posting, but I see it did not post the date and time as it did the first 2 times I used it. Fox fourtyfive (talk) 16:14, 31 December 2013 (UTC) ok, again, I think I have the date/time signature figured out. Fox fourtyfive (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm always happy to welcome a new user. Not everything about Wikipedia is intuitive.  Yes, the edit summary is underutilized.  I recently led a group of grad students new to Wikipedia and had to remind them from time to time.  Edit summaries make the page history easier to sort through.


 * So let me restate to ensure I understand you: I infer from your comments that you live in PhinDeli.  You say the name of the location is Buford, despite the cited sources that say the name of the town has changed.  Do locals resist this name change? Do you take issue with the news reports cited?
 * Wikipedia is not about what you know but what you can prove. For example, I live in Los Angeles.  If multiple reliable sources said that my area had been renamed to something else, despite the fact that my mail still arrives, then the name has changed.  It doesn't matter what I or millions of other people think about it because Wikipedia does not allow original research.
 * On the issue of the article itself, the Buford article was moved to PhinDeli on the basis of the cited sources. So far as the outside world is concerned, your address has changed and Buford is now PhinDeli.  The location the Buford article was originally at is a redirect to PhinDeli because that way anyone looking for Buford, or PhinDeli, or even 82052 finds this article.  Creating another article would violate our policy on content forking.  My proposal is that you present sources and we can draft a paragraph to address the fact that the name change is not visible locally (assuming that's what you are saying).  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 01:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Fox fourtyfive, you are invited to the Teahouse
Thank you for showing me how Wikipedia works. It has been most enlighteningFox fourtyfive (talk) 05:01, 1 January 2014 (UTC)