User talk:FrB.TG/Archive 2

Ariana Grande
Please do not keep putting false information on List of awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hashtagggsss (talk • contribs) 15:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Kareena Kapoor Khan filmography
The list looks decent now IMO, and we can probably nominate it at FLC. -- KRIMUK  90  ✉  05:29, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! I can create it :) -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 07:46, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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FLC
Just a gentle reminder that it's probably best to check before posting a second nom. (With two supports on your first one, you'd have got a green light, but just in case people complain, or try and post something that isn't suitable, at least there's a record you've gone through the right steps). Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:37, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, thanks for that and I have done it before which got passed. As for the complaint, that was when I knew almost nothing about FLC process. -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 11:40, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much. I'll get to your suggest regarding 1991 Oscars. I'm busy reading on Nimoy's death news.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 21:12, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Denis Zubrytsky
Hi. I see you've reverted my edits, can you point why? Denis is Russian spelling, not Ukrainian. So its quiet an absurd to write his first name in Russian spelling, while his patronymic name and surname is in ukrainian spelling. Compare rus: Denis Ivanovich Zubritsky and ukr: Denys Ivanovych Zubrysky 178.151.232.36 (talk)Alexey — Preceding undated comment added 16:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with you on that, however, the article's title is "Denis" and not "Denys". -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 17:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry (Outlaw Trail: The Treasure of Butch Cassidy)
I'm sorry, I mistook in fixing a missing space after the comma. Now I've done the right fix (as you've reverted my wrong fixing, without fixing the earlier error). --109.53.247.167 (talk) 17:25, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Enthiran/archive1
I have opened the FAC for Enthiran. Feel free to leave comments. — Ssven2  Speak 2 me '' 14:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey ! Great to see that it's an FAC now. I would love to comment; however, I known nothing about an FAC. Still I'll try to proofread it and see what I can do regarding this. -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 22:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Videos as citation sources
I have a question regarding the use of videos as sources. In the performers section of 84th Academy Awards list, some users (including 'Atomic Meltdown) want to put the songs (or actually singing about the Best Picture nominees in tune with popular songs) that host Billy Crystal performed in his opening monologue. Atomic Meltdown uses this article from The Hollywood Reporter as a source. The article contains a video of Billy Crystal performing the songs, but the article itself does not say or indicate word for word in the text what he is actually singing (i.e. singing about Midnight in Paris to the tune of "The Last Time I Saw Paris"). I know what Crystal sang is true, but for the sake of Wikipedia standards, is this acceptable?


 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 06:30, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, a video can be used as a source, but only when the publisher is notable and of course reliable. -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 07:33, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande warring
Why are you revert warring with me -- especially over something like this?? I reverted an unnecessary adding of piping by Taytay9135 (a very inexperienced user who has a history making bad edits), then you revert my reversion. The link had been that way since it was first added (not by me) on 12/5/14. It was fine then and it's fine now. If it wasn't then Kww (or another admin) would have changed it by now (or maybe Tomíca would've mentioned it on the flc).

"Stop using a Wikipedia policy or rule each and everytime."?

I didn't put a link when I reverted Taytay's edit, but I knew that when I reverted yours, I needed to give credence to my edit. I don't see any reason not to do that. I wish more editors would do that.

"Complete links are better so that readers can easily understand where are they going."?

It was a "complete link". Adding a pipe doesn't change anything. And it certainly doesn't help readers to understand "where they are going". You think that if you don't agree with something you can just "ignore all rules"? It doesn't work like that. Wikipedia foremost goes by consensus. You gave a link (or attempted to anyway -- but that's fine), so let's take a look at what it says:

"Many people seem to misunderstand the spirit of the rule, and think it's a convenient excuse to ignore anything they disagree with. This goes against the intention of the rule. Essentially, WP:IAR has some things implied: (1) Don't cite Ignore All Rules for acting like an idiot. Civility always applies, and don't try to disrupt Wikipedia. (4) Don't use it to try to create rifts in the community. (5) Don't try and use it to get around WP:CONSENSUS."

So, basically the only thing (or person) right now that you have on your side is Taytay9135 -- but you can try to find consensus on the talk page. --Musdan77 (talk) 17:56, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that user Taytay9135 is not an experienced editor, but that really does not mean that s/he always makes wrong edits, at least not this time. What's wrong with direct link and it will be inconsistency. Direct links in all other pages, while only one section with that. I am not edit-warring with you but you are making it a big deal. And BTW Taytay's edit does not have to be reverted all the time. I don't find it that important to discuss. Basically, there isn't much difference between them; both are the same, just that one is direct link without any redirect, while the other one is a redirect link. I am okay with both edits, but I chose direct links just for ease of the readers. -- FrankBoy (Buzz) 18:41, 15 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Well, at first I was upset when I saw that it had been changed back again, but then I saw that it was done by an IP who has now been blocked (I hope that wasn't you). I didn't say that Taytay9135 "always makes wrong edits", but yes it was that time. I have given reasons why it was. What's wrong with using unnecessary piping is just that -- it's unnecessary. Anything extraneous added to a WP article needs to be removed. And making unnecessary reverts is bad behavior. Of course you were edit-warring -- but I hope that's the last of it. --Musdan77 (talk) 16:14, 16 March 2015 (UTC)


 * OK, again you make another unnecessary reversion. You cite the MOS, but either you stopped reading it or you conveniently left out the part that says "may be expressed either in numerals or in words". Numbers are usually spelled out on words in prose. That's preferred proper grammar (for an encyclopedia). There are some exceptions (as shown later in that section) but this instance is not one of those exceptions. But, I'm not going to pursue this because it's not worth it.
 * But, let me say this: When a more experienced editor reverts an edit of mine, I don't revert back. I usually will ask them, on their talk page, why they reverted it. After they tell me, if I still disagree, I will reply back, but I still don't revert it. We agree to disagree and I let it go -- because edit warring only makes things worse. Sometimes I have taken the issue to the article talk page to find consensus. I hope you will think about this the next time you consider reverting. --Musdan77 (talk) 18:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have given the reasons for restoring that. "Numbers are usually spelled out on words in prose". Yes, it is, but mostly it is that numbers higher than nine are in numerical figures or in this case in the total wins and nominations of a particular person. Besides, I have written this list after many FLs, most of which I have seen use the same format. Kanye West and Rufus Wainwright as examples. I hate to argue (not hate to discuss) with users (particularly an experienced one like you) over pity things. And we're doing the same thing now. I hope that's the end of this. -- ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ (Buzz) 20:36, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you meant "petty" (not "pity"). I don't think that proper encyclopedic writing style is a petty thing when writing in an encyclopedia (but then, I am a copyeditor). I don't know about "mostly", but I know that a lot of articles do have it that way. But, it doesn't matter how many do; that doesn't make it okay. I could also give examples of featured lists, so if they have it both ways, that just means that that isn't a criteria to become an FL -- so it's not necessary to be reverted. I've been trying to train you on these things, but all I get is resistance. You say that you "hate to argue" (It doesn't seem that way to me), so why do it? You didn't say anything about reverting. You seem to love to do that. Enough said. --Musdan77 (talk) 16:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Oops, my bad! Yes, I meant "petty" (not "pity"). We usually give the totals in figures after all the whole page is based on that (the total numbers). I think that we should word numbers below ten; that's what every page does. Not that I hate your say and like I said before, I have things to learn from you. I quite value your opinion be that anywhere. -- ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ (Buzz) 20:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

2011 Oscars
Hi there,

Could you proofread 83rd Academy Awards for featured list promotion? I would appreciate the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 07:13, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I will try to review if I get time. -- ḞɾɑṇḵɃōẙ (Buzz) 08:53, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Peer review/Sargun Mehta/archive1
I've opened a PR for an article, and need some suggestions. So if you've time then please leave your comments here. :) Hetika (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey! For now I am busy but I'll try to review within a week or two. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT  14:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Lana Del Rey/archive2
Hey, you left comments on my nomination a little over a month ago and they were resolved, but you never said whether you supported the nomination or not. I've addressed another user's comments now, could you maybe give me your opinion on the nomination if you have one? It's fine if you don't have a clear stance, just ignore this then. Thanks! Littlecarmen (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure but.. per above. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT  14:41, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Littlecarmen (talk) 14:52, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey!
Hey! you had asked wayback in January about my flc nomination of PC awards list. I have nominated it. I thought to inform you. Your inputs are welcome. Thanks!— Prashant 15:18, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
 * With pleasure. Will review it in a week. -- FrankBoy CHITCHAT  15:39, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I'll be here for another week as my lab work+viva+practicals will start in a week. I hope you will do it before that.— Prashant 15:57, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Where are you? FrankBoy, you were also considered my sock remember and we both were blocked for that. Now, they are suspecting another user to my sock. LOL.— Prashant 13:47, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha, really? I do remember of me and you getting blocked for being sock. As for me, I will be back by next week. -- FrankBoy  CHITCHAT  17:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, you failed to review chopra flc. I hope you will review this.— Prashant 13:33, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks buddy! :) -- FrankBoy  CHITCHAT  07:07, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Enthiran - First Superstar FA!
Great news! Enthiran is promoted! My first FA success! Hooray! — Ssven2  Speak 2 me '' 13:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Many congratulations on the success of your FAC! Really happy and I hope to see it as a TFA, soon. -- FrankBoy  CHITCHAT  07:08, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of awards and nominations received by Lorde/archive3
Would you mind leaving some comments? Thanks, HĐ (talk) 09:53, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/Meghan Trainor discography/archive1
Would you mind leaving some comments? Thanks, All About That Bass (A word?? / Stalking not allowed...) 05:32, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

FLC
Would love your inputs here. Thank You.— Prashant 13:46, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

James Franco filmography
I've left input on its FLC. Snuggums (talk / <b style="color:#454545">edits</b>) 23:25, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Best Supporting Actor
Hi there,

Would you kindly review Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor for featured list consideration? I would appreciate the help.
 * --Birdienest81 (talk) 07:46, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Anurag Kashyap filmography
Please if you could take a look at Featured list candidates/Anurag Kashyap filmography/archive1. Yashthepunisher (talk) 2:34, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I have opened the PR for this article according to your suggestion, please if you could comment here. —Yashthepunisher (talk)'' 5:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

James Franco filmography
Congratulations on your successful FLC nomination of James Franco filmography! As a reminder, you can nominate your list for the main page at WP:TFLS. Please also consider returning to WP:FLC to review other editor's lists; the process only works when lists get reviews by other editors, and the more reviews people do, the faster your own list can make it through FLC! -- Pres N  03:00, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi! Thanks for the wish! I know and I will do that. -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  13:06, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Madhuri Dixit filmography
Hello! Your submission of Madhuri Dixit filmography at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! DES (talk) 17:32, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I have re-reviewed the nom with the altered hook, and it looks good to me. 20:30, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

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can u please separate the miley album appearances on her list of songs. i dont know how to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.117.228.120 (talk) 15:09, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

How dare you!
Why the hell you have nominated my topic, you are not even a contributor. I am aware that all her articles are Featured content. But, I wanted to take it to FT along with her her articles like Miss World 2000, Exotic, In My City. So please I ask imediate deletion of the nomination page. I mean this is ridiculous. You should have asked me prior to its nomination and NOT after nominating it. Who the hell are you to nominate it? — Prashant 15:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Nominating a topic for featured or good candidates does not require any contribution. You have been credited as the contributor there. Featured topic candidates is different from featured article/list candidates. Be aware before lashing out on someone. -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  16:38, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I will appreciate if you can help me deletig that page. You can delete by using temp dp author/creator or something like that or blanking as you are the creator. Please help.— Prashant 17:01, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

CSD is not appropriate
g7 is not appropriate as there are multiple editors on that page. It will archived to show the attempt. The use of csd on your part I understand was in order to help make the other editor feel better but that's exactly why we have WP:OWN. The article is not theirs the minute we hit saves it becomes wikipedia. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 17:32, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Heyo!
FrankBoy, I would like to say it was good to see you try that. Hard luck that it didn't work out well. Prashant momentorally seems to have lost his cool and he was way out of order. I would like to apologise from his part and I hope you won't feel discouraged. You did not have bad intentions clearly, but just a wrong approach I guess. Editors who have significantly contributed to the articles are generally the ones who nominate articles for FA/FL/FT (the nomination will be opposed even if the prose and stuff is perfect if the mains contributors don't consent because that is how it works). We sometimes make mistakes and we learn something new everyday, right? Your intentions were good and that is what matters. I hope you won't let this get to you and continue the good work. Cheers, &mdash;  Yash! (Y) 18:16, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Was not aware of featured topic. Just saw Lorde and I thought it was okay to include an overview, but other sub-articles need to be included, too. I guess I have learned from it; will not attempt any FTC (from other editor) ever again! -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  18:26, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Like I said, your intent was good so it is alright. You tried to do what was nice and dealt with the situation in a great manner. Don't think much about what happened; it shouldn't have been discussed this much in the first place. Move past it and keep doing the nice work :) Happy editing! &mdash;  Yash! (Y) 18:42, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Here, here! PureRED (talk) 18:40, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Seconded! &mdash;  Yash! (Y) 18:43, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thirded Chris  lk02  Chris Kreider 18:49, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I just want say that besides you shouting in the nomination, you weren't in the wrong. Sorry for what happened. GamerPro64  19:17, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
 * FrankBoy, you know the editor-in-question's history on Wikipedia, and you have seen first hand how abusive and disruptive he can get. Don't worry, you did nothing wrong. Hope his behaviour doesn't discourage you from contributing here. -- Krimuk | 90 ( talk ) 02:34, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Now, this is absolutely ridiculous. Everyone is taking on me? For what? Contributions? Or I said the truth. It seems Krimuk does not even want to see the truth. Its no surprise. Who knows this user might have told Frank Boy to do this in order to ruin my topic. Also, others are slamming me instead of this user, who nominated anothers contribution without prior nominating the topic. So, no one would tell him to do something and they are slapping me like I have commited a crime if I asked a deletion of that page.— Prashant 02:45, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * My first thought is to reassure the new user that you have thoroughly trashed and abused. I would remind you a third time you do not WP:OWN the article. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 02:49, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

LMAO Prashant! Get the hint. You were the one who threw a hissy fit for no reason, and you were the one in the wrong. I thought you had left for good. Wasn't everything you worked for ruined forever? Oh, the sadness! :P -- Krimuk | 90 ( talk ) 02:52, 27 May 2015 (UTC)


 * So again, Its the misunderstanding. Since I worked on the topic and was still two more articles left before I would have nominated it for FT, one user nominated it. But, he did not consulted any of the main contributors. He only notified me after nominating it. There is a rule that non-contributors should consult/notify before nominatibg a topic. That's why I was so frustrated about it. I wanted nothing but deletion of that page because I wanted to make it a FT in its first attempt. It felt like a lost battle and that too without any participation. I tried to reach him saying to ask for self deletion or author.... I have/had no problems with that user. In fact he is very helpful. But, my outburst may have looked like I wanted the credit and seemed that I should have nominated...Which is not true because I had posted on that user's page notifying him that still two more articles are left to work on and only then it will be eligible for FT. That's it. I just wanted to delete that nomination page.— Prashant 02:59, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Prashant! I'm curious to see this rule you speak of would you mind linking it to here? Hell in a Bucket (talk) 03:00, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * If you nominate something you have worked on, note it as a self-nomination. Nominators who are not significant contributors to the articles of the topic should consult regular editors of the articles prior to nomination. It is at the top of that page.— Prashant  03:08, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * You have been advised umpteen times by multiple reviewers to assume good faith over fellow editors. That said, you should also understand that WP isn't a battlefield. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 06:46, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating Frank. It is always better to discuss and alert the article writers before taking an article to FAC or topic, but it's clearly a positive gesture so I thankyou. Apologies for Prashant's, er, reaction.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey!
So, Yesterday was a very bad day for both of us. Well, lets move on as it wont do much now. I would like to apologize for my outburst. I was on a break from last fifteen days. I was holidaying in one of the most beautiful places in India, after my exams were over. That's why I did not came here all these days and I came back.... My only problem was a premature nom. and the fact that you did not asked before doing what you did. If you would have asked, I would have told you about its other related articles, which is required for being eligible for FT. It was incomplete. So, Now everything is like before. So what's say?— Prashant 07:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I did not have the intention to "ruin" your contributions or such. I have always been your well wisher, and you know that. I agree that was something silly (a premature nomination) I did, and didn't contact you before the attempt, for which I ask for an appology. I hope that you don't hold anything against me. -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  09:05, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hey! The sorting problem is still not fixed. Can you fix it?— Prashant 09:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you are too busy to reply me.— Prashant 00:52, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Was looking to fix the sorting problem, but haven't found yet. -- Frank<small style="font-size:85%;">Boy   <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  09:26, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * But I think, there should not be any problem because It uses the same sorting pattern as other Bollywood FLs. Meanwhile I looke at Maduri Dixit filmography and it has few but small problems. I will put in few days. It will be an FL, dont worry.— Prashant 13:03, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Today I gave it a look and found some errors and there shouldn't be any problem by now. I have modeled the sorting based on List of accolades received by Kahaani, an FL, which I wrote way back in January. -- Frank<small style="font-size:85%;">Boy   <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  15:55, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of nomination
Heads up I am contesting the deletion of the nomination with admin. Just an fyi. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 12:11, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think you need to do that as the editor is "super-angry" as said by the admin. And, I know you are doing that for the sake of saving the archive, but I think the page to be deleted is better for everyone. -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  12:13, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * We don't delete things just because people are angry. If editors (i'm not saying this about Prashant) can't get along then they don't need to be here. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 12:15, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I know that, but an exception can be made just for once, right? A humble request from me. -- FrankBoy  <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  12:16, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
 * FrankBoy, I really appreciate your efforts to smooth things over. But sadly, you have our policy exactly backwards. What if some editor turns up and says I don't like editing here just because you are here. Will you ever quit? It's high time you realise you need to stop feeding the divas as the community doesn't rely on a single editor, whosoever &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 18:04, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

National Film Award for Best Supporting Actor
My bad, I didn't really check the article's history while undoing it. &mdash; Vensatry (ping) 18:58, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * That's okay. I understand as I have also created the same mess many times. -- Frank<small style="font-size:85%;">Boy   <small style="font-size:85%;">CHITCHAT  18:59, 30 May 2015 (UTC)