User talk:Franck Holland

May 2012
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Proposed deletion of Raphaël Hamburger


The article Raphaël Hamburger has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * A music supervisor is not inherently notable. Refs include a PDF of unknown origin and news report that he is the boyfriend of some actor.  Unable to find reliable and independent refs beyond rumors, blogs and forums.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bgwhite (talk) 21:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Luka Magnotta
As I already noted, there's simply no need to maintain a list on the talk page of everybody who's ever edited his article. In the event that we ever actually need to investigate for Wikipedia users who might have been Magnotta himself, we already have access to that information through the edit histories as it is.

And please be aware that I'm a Wikipedia administrator, which means that I have the power to temporarily or permanently editblock you if you continue to post unproductive and unhelpful discussion that has nothing to do with improving the article's content. The talk page is not for speculating about his mental health, it's not for analyzing the possible meaning of various coincidental similarities to celebrities, and it's not for trying to expose Wikipedia editors — it's for discussing the content of the article, not a forum for posting opinions about Magnotta himself. Bearcat (talk) 18:02, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Again, Wikipedia already has access to the record of everyone who edited Magnotta's article — and we already have processes in place which can track suspicious users in much more depth than you would ever be able to. For example, there are editors who actually have the power to view records of each and every IP number that's ever been associated with a particular username, which is information that you as a regular editor would not have access to. We simply don't need you to conduct an amateur detective campaign yourself — we already have the means to track the information down in much more detail if we ever need it, and he's already been arrested anyway, so it's not going to accomplish anything right now. Unless the police specifically ask us for it at a later date, we don't actually need that information at all at the present time.
 * And furthermore, as I've already pointed out to you, several of the usernames you've listed are in fact well-known and well-established editors who've been around for years and have credible histories of editing a wide variety of topics — meaning that as it stands right now, in many cases you're dancing right on the edge of actually libeling a significant number of good faith users.
 * This is your final warning — if you repost the list of users again, no matter where you do it, you will get a 24-hour editblock, and that will be escalated to longer blocks if you continue making inappropriate edits after your editing privileges are restored. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 4 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright ! I guess we'll learn about his activities on facebook, wikipedia and twitter soon enough. Still, I'm pretty sure no one can possibly be dumb enough not to understand this multiple sockpupett, Imstarok, is actually Magnotta. Who could possibly be more intersted in someone like him but the psycopath himself. Franck Holland (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, sure, we already know that Magnotta has likely made some edits to Wikipedia himself. But unless we actually get asked for the information by the police, knowing which names or IP numbers he used just isn't actually going to make a difference to anything. It's not that anybody doesn't understand that Magnotta has edited Wikipedia in the past — it just isn't going to accomplish anything to ferret out his edit history right now. Bearcat (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I have locked the userpage to ensure this. Playing amateur sleuth is a major violation of wp:OUTING and cannot be tolerated ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 21:17, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Article talk pages
Article talk pages are set up for discussions about how to improve and shape articles. They are not set up to gossip or speculate. Your opinion about which celebrity Luka Magnotta looks like or about his haircut are irrelevant and should not be posted on Wikipedia. There are several online forums out there that deal with such gossip and I'm sure you can find one of those to continue this type of discussion. AniMate 06:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Ingeborg Verdun


The article Ingeborg Verdun has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Subject fails to meet the notability requirements of WP:BIO. Notability is not inherited.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JohnInDC (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)