User talk:Francombat

Leitai
I have left a reply to your rude comments on the Leitai talk page. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 11:15, 12 November 2006 (UTC))


 * I have again left a reply to your comments on the Leitai talk page. Please sign your comments like this (~), this will open a link to your user and talk page.


 * I can see that you have started to make unwelcome edits on other pages. Please be careful in doing so. This may be looked upon as vandalism. This is just a friendly warning.


 * Also, stop editing pages under the anonymous ip address of 69.234.21.105. Otherwise I will have to report you for using a "sockpuppet account".(!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 01:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC))

(I moved the following message from the bottom as it was directed towards me, but placed in the wrong section) (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 11:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC))

Your message was very very rude and alot of Lei Tai Fighter was very obset about your article. You talking about something that you don't know at all. Why don't you write about the Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting format who ressemble at the old Lei Tai tradition. Why did you named Sanshou rather Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting. Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting is the name of the Chinese combat sport of the world Kuoshu Federation and the International Chinese Kuoshu Federation as well as Sanshou or Sanda is the fighting style of the international Wushu Federation (IWUF). Before you wrie your article, one of my student writed a article about Lei Tai, a short text but right text.

Sorry, but it would be better to practice some techniques in your living room. Whatever it is rude or not, it is noting to do with us but about an traditional art, practiced by true warrior. You have to understand that in Chinese Martial arts communauty, Fighting on the Lei Tai is very sacred and respected.

Whatever, if we have to talk once again about this situation, we will take care about soon

Sincerely

F


 * Please sign all comments like this (~) . This will open a link to your user and talk page. I have left another comment on the Leitai talk page. Read it carefully.


 * Your position in whatever organization you represent does not hold any sway on Wikipedia. All I am interested in is writing a well balanced, formulated and supported article on the Leitai. That is it. I am not trying to be racist. I am not favoring Sanshou over Guoshu. I am neither Chinese nor Taiwanese, but that does not mean I don't know what I am writing about. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 11:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC))

(I again moved the following message from the bottom as it was directed towards me, but placed in the wrong section) - (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 02:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

For Wikipedia users:

We have resently had a discusion on this page about a article from a a guy who want to write a article on the Legendary Lei Tai. He taken some information on our website members as well as he didn't consult any body who really know about. It is really bad for the entire Chinese martial arts communauty, Lei Tai fighters, Sanshou competitors.

Thank you for your support on our website. We are sorry, we have already communicated with Wikipedia and wanting for a respond. Please don't write on this wikipedia, It is not a forum as well as he use. This article that we are presently writing is gonna be a global and approved by the Chinese martial communauty. Wushu, Kuoshu and also a contribution of the Athletic commision about the past, present of Lei Tai rules.

please don't reply any message, it is not a forum. Wikipedia will take care about this situation soon, Thank you dear members.

Francombat 22:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)FFrancombat 22:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)FFrancombat 22:43, 14 November 2006 (UTC)F


 * Nothing is going to happen to the Lei tai article. The administrators have no problem with it because they awarded it a Barnstar award. (!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 02:48, 16 November 2006 (UTC))

Your recent edit
Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. -- Seadog 01:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

3 reverts
You are in potential violation of WP:3RR on the Lei tai article. At Wikipedia, we prefer discussion over edit warring. Please discuss your points rather than trying to unilaterally enforce them. --Fire Star 火星 06:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Greetings
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate your discussions, and would like to welcome you to Wikipedia. As you know, the martial arts are a contentious business, with as many opinions as there are practitioners. My own introduction to leitai, while hardly official in the sense of competition or ranking, etc., was competing informally with other people associated with the Chinese-Canadian Kuo Shu Federation, and then in China with the old Chien-ch'uan T'ai Chi Ch'uan Association many years ago.

With new info that you want added to an existing article, it is best when challenged in a Wikipedia by other editors to ask their opinions on how best to proceed in order to build a consensus for the article. If you do it this way, you can avoid unproductive arguments and demonstrate good faith for discussions later on. The following links, while quite a bit of information, carefully set out procedures for getting encyclopaedic info that you want into an article, with less fuss:


 * The Five Pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial
 * Picture tutorial
 * How to write a great article
 * Naming conventions
 * Manual of Style
 * If you're ready for the complete list of Wikipedia documentation, there's also Topical index.

Cheers! --Fire Star 火星 16:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Kung Fu's brother, Thanks to reply to me. Can you ask him to write the correct name of the Kuoshu competitive format "Kuoshu Lei Tai" or "Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting". It is the name that the founders and actuel president had named as well as the Wushu organization named "Sanshou". All information is available on the Federation's websites at: WWW.TWKSF.org www.USCKF.org. I know that it is an article about the Lei Tai, but he named Sanshou but didn't with Kuoshu Lei Tai. Kuoshu involve more than just the Lei Tai fighting division. There are many competitive format as well as Tai Chi chuan, shuai Jiao, Chi sao, etc...That's why the World Kuoshu Federation named it this way. I have asking him many time to write in the section Lei Tai today the correct name of. He said that it's a article about Lei Tai, i agreee but Why he wrote Sanshou??? I think it will be better to include the name "Kuoshu Lei Tai" or "Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting" as well as he did with the Wushu Federation.

I'm looking for this addition and your help.

Thanks you

Francombat 20:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

On the Talk page (discussion), here the message that he left me. He said "So don't complain that i didn't use a Kuoshu Lei Tai first." What's that mean??? With this phrase, he just correctly named the name of the Kuoshu fighting format better known as Kuoshu Lei Tai or Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting. Once again, you can take your info at the same website that he found the info concerning Kuoshu. (Ref: www.TWKSF.org & www.USCKF.org)

Here the request and contribution since the inception of this discussion:

-To put a space between the word Leitai. (It is two Chinese words)

-Write properly the name of Kuoshu as well as the Federation called it (ref: Talk pages: Discussion on the Lei Tai article)

-Write also properly the name of the worlwide Kuoshu federation as well as "The World Kuoshu Federation".

-Write the name of the Kuoshu competitive format as well as "Kuoshu Lei Tai" or "Kuoshu Lei Tai fighting".

Ref: www.TWKSF.org & www.USCKF.org

I sure you know better than me how Wikipedia is working. It is easy to see that all request was to improve and contribute at the Lei Tai article. It is impossible to add any thing, he is always working on this page. Each time i have added "Kuoshu Lei Tai" he always deleted my work. Whatever, hope you gonna be willing to help me to add my knowledge in order to contribute to the article. I know that the name put a accent on "Kuoshu LEI TAI" but it is the name of, That's it, that's all.

Best regard

Francombat 03:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much to welcome me on Wikipedia "The Free Encyclopedia and i do appreciate your comment about the Lei Tai discussion.

Francombat 06:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I never said I didn't value your edits. Show me where I said that. Regarding my "So don't complain that I didn't use a Kuoshu Lei Tai first" comment, I meant exactly that. You have, for some reason, condoned every piece of Sanshou material I have on the page and stated that I was misinforming the people because I didn’t have enough guoshu information. Because I added a picture of a lei tai used in Sanshou, I figured that you would once again accuse me of not using enough guoshu stuff. So I gave you a chance to contribute a picture of a lei tai used in guoshu. If you are indeed the president of the Kuoshu Federation in Canada and Beverly Hills, I'm sure you will have no problem in getting a picture for the article.


 * Once again, I did NOT take any information from the www.TWKSF.org & www.USCKF.org sites. All of my information about guoshu came from Kung fu Magazine, which is cited as a source. Gene Ching, associate publisher of Kung fu Magazine, approves of the article.(!Mi luchador nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 07:58, 17 November 2006 (UTC))