User talk:Frank2101

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Help me understand sourcing!
Please help me with... I am trying to add the nickname of my hometown Bolingbrook, Illinois, which is The Brook, and the change has been reverted twice. Once because I did not source and once because I sourced the high schools theater page, and that isn't reputable. Does anyone have advice on how I could find a more reputable source for this? I'm new to editing on Wikipedia - I literally only joined so I could add the nickname. What is the best way to find a source for such an odd piece of information? I know it because I've lived there all my life, but I also understand that the information needs to be sourced. Thank you for any help! Makillla (talk) 16:53, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Because Wikipedia does not accept original research, you need to support your edit with a reliable source. I search online and was only about to find this, which is probably ok.  Not even your city website mentions "the Brook". Magnolia677 (talk) 17:13, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * It's possible that it is too late to add such a nickname. It appears that a real estate development has essentially usurped the name.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 17:16, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you for all your help. I'm not sure why the city website does not mention it, as its been the nickname of the town since my parents were in high school in the 80's. I added it with the link to the newspaper article you gave.


 * The Brook on Janes is actually named after the village and the road it's placed on. But of course I don't have a source for that either. Thank you for your help!


 * My apologies if I've done any of this the wrong way, I'm still learning. Makillla (talk) 18:48, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That newspaper article is ambiguous whether "the Brook" is to be considered a nickname for the particular team, for the school, or for the town. I don't consider it a sufficient source to say that the town has a long-standing official or semi-official nickname that can be placed in the infobox. The town motto is also unsourced.  — jmcgnh (talk)  (contribs) 18:51, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Do you think / this would be better? As it's the villages website and uses Brook Alerts? I also added a source to the village website's home page where it shows the motto. Thanks! Makillla (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * : "Official" sources are not accorded any particular authority on Wikipedia. We really want to see something in secondary sources that comes out and says "a nickname for Bolingbrook is 'the Brook'". Making the inference that this is a nickname from instances of its use as an common abbreviation of the name constitutes original research, which we, as humble Wikipedia editors, must refrain from.
 * As for the motto, you could take a photo of the sign at one of the town borders that says "this is the town motto" and I think we'd still be reluctant to use that as a source.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 19:11, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ok for the motto - what if it is a direct quote from the mayor where she says "Our motto, "A place to grow"?
 * And for the nickname - is it probably just impossible? I just don't understand how Romeoville, Illinois has theirs and we don't. Makillla (talk) 19:22, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * It looks like nobody has looked, with a critical eye, at that aspect of Romeoville, Illinois. Many Wikipedia articles do not meet our standards and it's a blot on our reputation that we don't have enough volunteer editors to either improve or weed out the substandard stuff.
 * As for the mayor's greeting on the website - it's a primary source; for such a small thing as the motto, we might let it stand. You want to make that citation?  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 19:50, 12 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I will! Thanks again for all your help. There's a lot going on with this wikipedia editing thing LOL. Makillla (talk) 19:52, 12 August 2021 (UTC)