User talk:Frank Schulenburg (Wikimedia Foundation)

Nomination for deletion of Template:WPUSEDU/Tabs/Tab
Template:WPUSEDU/Tabs/Tab has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 11:56, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

YGM
--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Canada Education Leader Board
I seem to be missing in the rankings on WP:CANADAEDU, just trying to figure out what I need to do to get linked onto it. My name appears in the article list and the student list in my course. Not really important, but it would be nice to see how I'm doing so far! Thanks, Cdlangan (talk) 18:58, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Global Education Program
Category:Global Education Program, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 01:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Leaderboards?!
Frank, per my comment here, and given the ongoing evaluations of recent educational projects, do you really think that this competition on the basis of sheer bytes contributed is a good idea? I certainly don't. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:27, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Jon, you're right – it would be great to have some qualitative metrics. We did this as part of the Public Policy pilot in fall 2010 and spring 2011. Here's some information: http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Public_Policy_Initiative_Learning_Points#Student_Contributions:_Article_Quality_Improvement The problem with a qualitative assessment is that it's very work intensive. We've not come up with a good way of automating the process. Any ideas? --Frank Schulenburg (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, others have mentioned the kinds of goals championed by the WikiCup. Or, I dunno, you could tally up the number of barnstars given by uninvolved editors.  Personally, I think *regular* editing should be more highly rewarded: which schools have fewest editors who miss a week's editing?  Note that I'm all for some good-humoured competition between schools.  (Some people will be less happy even about that.) But basing that on sheer quantity opens the door to a misunderstanding of what the educational project should be about.  --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:46, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Jon, we don't intend to judge the students' contributions based on sheer quantity. For both us and the Ambassadors the leaderboard pages serve as an indicator of which classes / students are active and which are not (and to which extend). Maybe we should clarify that on the leaderboard pages. --Frank Schulenburg (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 00:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC) P.S. It is in everybody's interest that the quality of the content is high. I did not mean to create the impression that quantity is more important than quality.
 * An indication of activity is a good idea. (Again, I think what's most important is that students edit regularly.)  I guess that what made me raise my eyebrows was the way it was put in an email I received this afternoon:
 * "Psychology class tops Canada leaderboard
 * "The Leaderboard for the Canada Education Program is in action, documenting the work of more than 600 students enrolled in five participating courses this term. The Leaderboard was recently updated to show the activity among the different courses. All told, students have already contributed more than 1.1 million characters to the English Wikipedia -- that's the equivalent of 725 printed pages. See which class is on top."
 * This suggests that the Psychology class, with its sheer volume of edits, is "on top." Yet this is a class that, precisely in part because of its sheer size, has caused a number of problems. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 00:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Jon, I've moved the pages to the outreach wiki and disabled the link here. Thanks a lot for your feedback. I really appreciate it! --Frank Schulenburg (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 01:59, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, grand, and thanks for your response. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 02:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Signpost mention
Hello Frank, just stopping by in case you might be interested to let you know you are mentioned (and provide illustration for) an opinion essay in this week's Signpost. Regards,  Skomorokh   18:19, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

email
Hey Frank, I sent you an email. Hope you received it. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 21:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Category:Canada Education Program
Category:Canada Education Program, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 20:55, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
Kevin Gorman (talk) 17:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

IEP and Simple Wikipedia
Hi! Just a brief comment, if I may. :) I'd love to see the IEP try again, and should it get up and running I'll be placing my name forward to help out where I can. But in the case of Simple, I think the mistake was that the coordinators went in with the assumption that Simple WP would be good for Indian students because it requires less skills with English to write. It does seem that every Wikimedia community is of the opinion that their project requires special skills of participants (probably with cause), but if it is accepted that the Simple WP community is correct, and that editors there need higher English skills than those on en.wp, then the argument for moving IEP to Simple seems to be in significnat difficulties, irrespective of other concerns.

I've been getting the feeling that the climate on en.wp is making it difficult for any large-scale educaion program, and so I'd be concerned (as I imagine others are), that even a small en.wp second trial of the IEP would face problems. My only thought was that maybe something could be leveraged through Wikiversity, but I'm sure that has already been considered. - Bilby (talk) 00:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you so much. I really appreciate it! All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (Wikimedia Foundation) (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:United States Education Program
Category:United States Education Program, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:44, 27 September 2012 (UTC)