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March 2022
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 08:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Will reply about it on the talk page of article. Frank Springer (talk) 03:46, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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Venkat TL (talk) 13:49, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

You already add these sactions on my talk page here Special:MobileDiff/1076086284 While I respect the policies but I don't think this is really that important to keep posting it here and made this page grubby which I really don't like. Frank Springer (talk) 17:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)


 * They are not the same. It means you have neither read the message, nor clicked the links it had. Venkat TL (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

April 2022
Hello, I'm Venkat TL. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Talk:Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 10:39, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I found it hard to believe where I was not civil in that reply as a matter of fact, I asked in a very polite ton at the end (which all editors there are trying to do in case of your POV claim) to mention about the lost battles which we missed. Don't know how that was not very civil. Frank Springer (talk) 11:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. ''namecalling is not allowed. If you do this a third time, you will be reported to admins for disciplinary actions.'' Venkat TL (talk) 11:24, 2 April 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't know how this is namecalling in a wrong sense. I simply requested you to add the problems which that article had in it but you accused me of personal attack & loosing cool. Is these because, You can't answer my questions or you are loosing this debate ? Quite probably this is the case. Frank Springer (talk) 11:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Would you Say that comment to your seniors or boss or teachers? Do I need to tell you what is civil or what is not. If you dont understand then you should stay away from editing articles that are under discretionary sanctions. Looking at your edit summary, you understand this very well. You have been warned twice. There wont be a third warning. Venkat TL (talk) 11:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * What was wrong in it ?? I still requests you again to join that talk page, explain the POV issues so we can work on it and resolve it, That's it. Your earlier remarks was that it mentioned them in positive light and depict them as winner of every battle which isn't quite true it mentions their defeat in great detail. Once again If it missed any historical defeat of Rajputs, you are welcomed to let us know about it. You are not my teacher or boss. We are unknown random users who edit this enclyopedia in area of our speciliaty. Thanks. Frank Springer (talk) 12:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I may not be your teacher or boss, but that does not mean you will resort to name calling and denigration of fellow editors. I have already said enough, I am waiting for other article contributors to comment. They have been pinged already. Venkat TL (talk) 12:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Where I wrongly criticised you ?? I just said since you added that template on the particular page it's your responsiblity to answer our objections with nuance. If you don't we can assume your silence as consensus. I didn't resort to name calling in a wrong sense but asked your concern about it. I think you are resorting to poor tactics of undoing my genuine edits with scholarly sources. Even I had enough. Thanks. Frank Springer (talk) 12:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * You have been asked to stop namecalling. If you insist on namecalling, you will be reported. You can then explain your namecalling to an admin in your unblock notices. Or you can move forward and not repeat what has happened. Choose one. Venkat TL (talk) 12:30, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I searched on google that what exactly is namecalling thing and I found a answer that abusive language or insults. I fail to find out where I abused you or insuled you. In these revision you refered is, I said your inability to reply exact issue with article will lead to consensus because of your silence. Please, what is abusive in these ?? You are doing all sort of things to get me blocked as you can not debate with facts and figures ? Never a good thing. Bye. Frank Springer (talk) 13:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Please spend some time in reading Civility. Venkat TL (talk) 13:23, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I will but once my M.B.B.S semester exams will be over. These time they will be in offline mode 😥😥. Frank Springer (talk) 13:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi Frank Springer! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Paramara dynasty several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree&#32;at Talk:Paramara dynasty, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Paramara dynasty. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Venkat TL (talk) 11:43, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * I did use the talk page where you being primary and only opposer failed to contest my addition with facts and figures again. Just bombarding my talk page with warnings won't change the fact that you are yet to answer our concerns and your assertions for claiming Rajput resistance to Muslim conquests as POV article with that template. Hurry up join that discussion there as well. Frank Springer (talk) 11:51, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * you have made a proposal, that has not been approved. You have no rights to push your preferred version of the article without consensus. Please self revert and follow WP:DR. Venkat TL (talk) 11:55, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Firstly you were the chief opposer in both those articles and it's you who failed to debate responsibly with sources that unambiguously contrasted our addition. I never pushed my version in any of those articles instead started discussion and asked your concern (as you were only one who opposed my addition) and you simply stop discussing while editing other article. Frank Springer (talk) 12:01, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at List of international cricket centuries by Sachin Tendulkar. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Venkat TL (talk) 12:04, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * How adding a short description Wikipedia list article in a article which consists of list of centuries of a cricketer is disruptive ? Are you just stalking my contributions and reverting them ? Frank Springer (talk) 12:07, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Read WP:SDNONE Venkat TL (talk) 12:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, I think just adding that this is article list of Wikipedia won't breach this law but in all fairness this is not a issue to get engaged in a edit war or back & forth reversals. Thanks. Frank Springer (talk) 12:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)