User talk:Frankeunice

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In accordance with Wikipedia's terms for biographies of living persons, I wish to remove references to Ryan Gander's physical disability that are repeatedly being added to his biography by User:Mehmit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Gander

Thank you, much appreciated. :)

These references have been removed previously, and have been added again. I request that User:Mehmit be blocked from editing this page.

In accordance with Wikipedia's terms, I wish to "[remove] sections that grossly unbalance the biography's point of view and which are not justified by any encyclopedic need. If there is actual privacy-related information you want permanently deleted rather than just corrected, please ask for help."


 * Except that in this case, it is directly relevant, because his work itself is in part about being in a wheelchair. That would be like talking about the artwork of Frida Kahlo without mentioning that she was Mexican, since it's a critical part of the meaning and purpose of her art. There is no "privacy-related information" here, because it is public information that Gander himself references in his work (again, this is what I understand from reading the article, since I've never heard of the person before now).  As such, you need to discuss this on the article's talk page (Talk:Ryan Gander).  I'll monitor both this page and the article, and will be glad to answer any further questions you have. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:18, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

To be clear, I am writing from Ryan Gander's studio. Gander has made precisely one work that references his wheelchair in any way whatsoever, and in this work - "The artwork nobody knows" - which is a portrait of the artist, the inclusion of the wheelchair is no more relevant than the inclusion of his glasses.

It is completely inaccurate to summarise Gander's entire practice as being about his physical disability, which is not, as you suggest, a "critical part of the meaning and purpose of [his] art". Thus, the remarks to which I refer do "grossly unbalance the biography's point of view and are not justified by any encyclopedic need". This is a complete misrepresentation of Gander's practice, it is reductive and offensive.

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On a separate note, yesterday I updated the 'exhibition' section of this page, with full citation for every exhibition. Why was this removed too?


 * Thanks for following up. Based on your updated info, it seems appropriate to leave the info out. Of course, if more reliable sources are presented, and they generally seem to characterize Gander in that way, we may have to reconsider, but if it's just the one work, then it seems unnecessary (in the same way that we wouldn't generally discuss the person's ethnicity or sexual preference, unless specifically relevant).  I left a note on the article's talk page describing these points.  As a side note, since it sounds like you're directly related to Gander (professionally or personally), I do recommend that you don't edit the article directly.  Our policies don't forbid it, but the strongly recommend against it.  The problem is that it is nearly impossible to edit neutrally while closely connected to a subject (whether that is a person, company, organization, etc.).  Generally, the relevant policy (WP:COI) recommends that those with conflicts of interest suggest changes via the article talk page, not by editing directly.  Qwyrxian (talk) 12:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

September 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Ryan Gander. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Cind.  amuse  (Cindy) 11:43, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Ryan Gander, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Cind.  amuse  (Cindy) 13:25, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello Frankeunice. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Ryan Gander, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Cind.  amuse  (Cindy) 13:26, 14 September 2011 (UTC)