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Help with genre warrior?
Hi. I'm having trouble communicating with an IP over his genre changes to Are You Experienced. He continues to remove my messages to him, claiming harassment, and refuses to comment on the content, instead slighting me in his edit summaries. Could you help in any way? Dan56 (talk) 18:46, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what you or I believe the article is suppose to be in a Netrual point of view WP:NPOV removing a REILABLE source is considered disruptive because of your own personal belief of what the genre should be. Also calling someone a genre warrior just because they disagree with what you think is a very infantile approach to solving a problem.--75.65.123.86 (talk) 18:52, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The allmusic sidebar, however is listed as a source to avoid in these guidelines. This has apparantly been listed as a result of discussions regarding contradictions with reviews (see the Sly & Robbie example given). I guess this means that not all of the content on allmusic is reliable although im sure a clear distinction can be made between the sidebar actual review. If you think that the sidebar is reliable thats something to be brought up with the wikiproject but as no mention of 'acid rock' and 'blues rock' is mentioned in the actual review then this doesn't act as a reliable source for it. FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  19:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

You don't get what i'm talking about do you?? It is listed as an Acid rock album here:http://www.allmusic.com/style/acid-rock-ma0000012327 Is that still unreliable for you?? and several other sources beside allmusic have it listed as blues rock. I do not know why you chose to pick sides, but wikipedia agrees with me that allmusic is reliable. also tell me where you see hard rock at in the review for "Are you experienced?"--75.65.123.86 (talk) 20:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Erm can you state where it says that allmusic is a reliable source? Because those links to the 'sources to avoid' have been pointed out to you countless times and say that the sidebar categorisation for allmusic should be avoided. If you have seen blues rock in any other sources link to them instead. FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  20:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

It says so here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums/Sources all genres included. Now I will revert Are you experienced back to my version once I have waited 24 hours from my first revert.--75.65.123.86 (talk) 20:59, 26 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You're misinterpreting the genre column at WikiProject Albums/Sources. The column lists the genres those websites specialize in and kind of albums they tend to review (example from the table: Rock Hard (magazine) and "Heavy metal"). Dan56 (talk) 21:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I know that's why allmusic and all genres from that site are listed as a source. Your personal opinion on what the genre is the only thing that is stopping it from being added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.123.86 (talk) 21:14, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Sirah (rapper)
Please reconsider your recent edit to Sirah (rapper). In some musical genres, possibly including hip-hop, being "white" is encyclopedic. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  19:54, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * How is it 'encyclopedic' to include the subjects ethnicity (and perhaps gender too) in the first sentence of the article? FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  10:13, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I think the article on Barack Obama is a good example of when a person's ethnicity is encyclopedic enough to be in the first sentence. I am not a subject-matter expert on contemporary (2013) Hip-Hop, but if you were a white 1980s Rap artist, your ethnicity would be encyclopedic. I suspect the same is true for modern Hip-Hop.  I'm just asking you to reconsider.  Unlike the article on the President, leaving it out of this article won't be a big deal. The article on Vanilla Ice, who was [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vanilla_Ice&oldid=550103090 "one of the earliest white rappers to attain major success"] doesn't mention his race until halfway through the article, but then again, his picture at the top of the article clearly indicates his race. Speaking of pictures, if you have any freely-licensed photos (especially one you took which you can release under a free license) of this artist, consider uploading it to the Wikimedia Commons and putting it in the "Infobox musical artist" template on the page about her. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  15:50, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I guess I see your point, but in contemporary Hip-Hop, there are plenty of artists from differing ethnic minorities. Even if there wasn't such a mix, it probably shouldn't be included unless being of that ethnic group was a significantly famous trait of that specific artist, something that probably doesn't apply to Sirah. I will also remove the 'female' from the lead sentence as the same goes for that too. FM [ talk to me  |  show contributions  ]  17:01, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. To be honest, I wasn't sure if you were a person familiar with the genre or an editor who just didn't like ethnicity mentioned in the 1st sentence of biographical articles and who was deleting such references any time he encountered them.  I'm glad to know you are the former and appreciate your expertise and understanding.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  17:14, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Just noticed the Portuguese version of Sirah (rapper); how do I create a Wikidata entry for it?-- Laun  chba  ller  17:54, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * (butting in here) I think it's handled automatically once two articles on different wikis have inter-wiki links pointing to each other. Once it's done, a bot will remove the inter-wiki links.  At least that's what happened to me recently when I added interwiki links between a Chinese article and an English article about a medical school in China.  See Help:Interwiki linking for details.  davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  19:06, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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