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Omaha park-and-boulevard system
Just a heads-up in case this hasn't come to your attention: the Omaha Park and Boulevard System is now listed in the National Register of Historic Places, under that name. There's a short summary at ; the nominating form is at. I've put a note to that effect in the article Boulevards in Omaha, Nebraska, which you created; don't know if you'd want to revisit the article, particularly in light of the inclusion of parks and golf courses in the NRHP nomination. Ammodramus (talk) 02:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Hey Ammodramus, thanks for the heads-up. I'll definitely work something out, but I'm not sure how yet. Can the boulevard system maintain its own article, with a separate one for the designated areas? We surely wouldn't merge the parks into the article, right? Hmmm. I'm going to research Chicago and a few others, but tell me what you think? Thanks. • Freechild talk 14:17, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Haven't really given it much thought-- I'm more of an outstate person. Thinking at the keyboard, my first inclination would be to rename the existing article to include parks, and to include material on the particular parks that're considered part of the parks-and-boulevards system.  I wouldn't suggest a merge with Parks in Omaha, Nebraska, which also covers lots of parks that don't appear to be included in the P&B system; nor would I exclude non-NRHP boulevards (e.g. Sorenson Pkwy) from the boulevards article.  Mostly, I think I'd be disposed to expand the boulevards article with a little more material on the parks that Cleveland designed as part of the system.  Will think about this some more and get back to you on it...  Ammodramus (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Just from what you've written and what I've been able to find so far, I'm thinking about a separate article. The nomination cited the specific work of HWS Cleveland, which is comprised of "18 contributing parks, six noncontributing parks, and approximately 19 boulevards that span approximately 26.5 miles and link approximately 1,650 acres of park land." The City of Omaha, however, claims it has a total of "over 250 parks covering approximately 10,000 acres of parkland", and doesn't really say how many miles of boulevards there are citywide - but the number is greater than the nomination, because they've added new boulevards as recently as a few years ago.

All that said, I think a separate article is justified. Thanks for your thoughts, and for spurring mine! • Freechild talk 20:31, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks, and good luck with the article development.


 * I'm still doing photography in Nebraska; drop me a line if there's anything specific you'd like photographed for the article (or if there's something else that you're trying to push toward GA or FA). I've got a few NRHP sites left to shoot in Omaha; unfortunately, most of them are historic districts, and it takes a lot of work to photograph them right.  The boulevards-and-parks one will be especially time-consuming, since I won't be able to do it on foot like I can in most HDs.


 * Don't know if you've been paying any attention to WikiProject NRHP, but one of the members recently put together a dandy progress page, with maps of the US showing the fraction of NRHP sites in each county that've been illustrated, that have articles, and that have articles rated Start or better. The last of those maps might interest you: only two Nebraska counties have reached 50% Start+.  One of those was Arthur County, where I wrote a C-class article on one of the two sites.  The other is Douglas County-- and the reason it's got such a high percentage of Start+ articles is all the work that you've done there.  Too bad it's not a bigger county geographically-- it'd be nice to have it show up more conspicuously on the map.  Ammodramus (talk) 21:16, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that heads-up, and for your ongoing offer for the pics. I'll admit to you that I've grown weary of the WP project in general. I've spent so much time and energy digging up info on places and people and events that wasn't compiled anywhere else before, and now I find it all over the Internet, relatively speaking, with people taking credit for the finds and whatnot. Its discouraging. So I started a blog to put my finds on and break away from the encyclopedic formula, and that's been a bit better. I still contribute here occasionally though, especially when I'm goaded on by other serious editors like you! It's good to be seen, you know? • Freechild talk 01:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link to the blog. I don't have the time to go through it in detail right now-- I've got to spend some time struggling with spreadsheets today-- but it's up on my bookmark bar, awaiting a chunk of leisure time.


 * Have to pick someone up at Eppley in the early afternoon of Oct. 14, so if the weather's good, I'll take my camera and try to spend the morning a-photographing. I've got plenty of NRHP sites to hit, including several HD's; but if you've got a place that particularly wants photographing, feel free to ask.  (I think all photos at Commons are free-use-- I release all of mine into public domain-- so if you find something there that you can use for the blog, by all means do so.)  Ammodramus (talk) 16:26, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Fur trade
Hi, hope all is well. Thought you might find this work interesting: Gitlin, Jay. The Bourgeois Frontier: French Towns, French Traders & American Expansion, Yale University Press, 2010. Great topic!Parkwells (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for sharing this Parkwells! I really appreciate you thinking of me. Things are good for me. I am focusing my efforts almost exclusively on my |history blog now. After years of seeing our hard work replicated freely across the entire internet, including a lot of for-profit websites that are literally making money off our volunteer time, I decided to hone my volunteerism on someplace the vultures couldn't get to it. The limited contributions I've made these last few years have shown me the editing climate has changed, too. I'm glad to know you're still here though. Hope all's well with you! • Freechild |  talk to me 22:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

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You've been missed
Just saw that you'd added something to Old Gold Coast. Hope that this means you're back to working on articles about Omaha history. I've done a bit of touching up from time to time (for instance, when El Museo Latino made the NRHP), but I'm really an outstate person. WP's a better place for your work on Omaha, and there's plenty left to do... Ammodramus (talk) 22:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Your words are deeply appreciated, Ammodramus. I miss the collaboration of Wikipedia A LOT. But I have to tell you how utterly, totally and completely disappointing it was to keep finding our hard labor spread across tacky spammy websites all over the place, and printed inside books people actually buy, without any attribution to you or me or any individual involved, and little acknowledgment of Wikipedia. Yuck. I actually ran into people who thought I plagiarized off Wikipedia! So I bailed out, and I'm still out. My blog has gone really well, and that's fun, but yes, some other activities are a waste of time. I'll test different forms of them to see if they work. In the meantime, come over and play with the new Omaha History Club! Thanks again for the compliment - that's the kind of thing that could bring me back here. • Freechild |  talk to me 07:07, 6 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Hope that you do return! For my part, I'm happy with the acknowledgement that I get from fellow WP editors, and wouldn't especially care if one of my articles were reproduced elsewhere without acknowledgement (although I'd fly into a rage if they messed up my punctuation).  But then, I tend to write on fairly obscure subjects, judging by the page-view numbers, so the likelihood that someone would want to reproduce one of my articles is minimal...  I figure that whatever I write or photograph for WP or Commons goes into the public domain, and that the fun of researching and writing is the reward for me.  Hasten to say that this is personal taste: I'm not trying to score altruism points, or to denigrate your own motives for writing.
 * Speaking of obscure subjects, I don't know if you knew that Engineer Cantonment recently made the NRHP. I did some reading up on it while trying to find and photograph it, and found it interesting enough to kick me into article-writing mode.  It's not quite Omaha, but it's only half a mile north of Fort Lisa, so you might be interested.
 * I've been checking out your North Omaha website at intervals; among others, I really enjoyed some of the guest pieces, notably the one on Druid Hall (which also made the NRHP recently). Unfortunately, the Omaha History Club link led me to F—b—, which I assiduously shun... Ammodramus (talk) 17:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for putting me onto the Engineer Cantonment. I'd seen it referred to, but couldn't identify mentally where it was. I'm equally intrigued by the mention of Rockport, Nebraska Territory, which as an important early port needs its own article! We'll see what I can cook up... Thanks again for your note! • Freechild |  talk to me 19:33, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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List of place names of Native American origin in Nebraska
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Nebraska historic sites and architecture
Hi, I just happened to notice you have been working occasionally on Nebraska historic sites and architecture from at least 2008 to just now in 2019. We must have crossed paths, but i am not remembering. By the way there is wp:NRHPPROGRESS which has maps showing "progress" (updated very occasionally) and statistics (updated almost daily). wp:NRHPPROGRESSNE is link to its NE statistics section. It brings attention to smaller achievements, perhaps, like starting short articles which is what i mostly do. cheers, --Doncram (talk) 21:09, 11 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your note Doncram. I've actually started just over 300 articles related to Nebraska history, including almost every single one related to North Omaha's history. I mostly retired from WP around 2012, when I found my volunteer efforts replicated in for-pay websites across the internet without any attribution. I don't like people making money off my volunteer labor, so I don't spend a lot of time here. Also, I didn't notice a lot of other editors working on Nebraska-related articles. I'll keep an eye out for your work though--thanks for sharing the link. • Freechild |  talk to me 22:39, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

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Black journalists of Omaha
Hi, I thought you might be interested in this category discussion: Categories_for_discussion/Log/2020_September_17

I see you added the original category to Cyrus D. Bell and perhaps others a few years ago. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 22:00, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding a comment there. I meant to mention before, you may be interested in our current campaign to write more Wikipedia articles about Black-owned newspapers: WP:News On Wiki -Pete Forsyth (talk) 23:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't see any convo about Black-owned Newspapers on that group User:Peteforsyth. Can you direct me? I have questions I need answered before I become involved in that effort - I don't like wasting my time in WP fights anymore, and if I invest a bunch of energy in writing new articles only for them to be deleted it would upset me. Freechild (talk) 16:06, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 * I suppose I should make it clearer on that page. The objectives of this campaign (through Feb. 2021) are to increase the number of Wikipedia articles about individual (a) Washington state-based, (b) Black-owned, or (c) Caribbean-focused newspapers (along with some related goals involving related Wikipedia articles, Wikidata items, etc.) We did this in 2018, and we really didn't have any fights...the content we are trying to generate is generally not controversial, just neglected. I believe it can help to work with others on this sort of thing though. One of the related things we've worked on is an early draft of notability guidelines for newspapers which, if we can get them approved, should streamline some of the arguments that occasionally crop up around whether or not a newspaper is notable enough to have its own Wikipedia article. If you'd be willing to take a look at that page and make any edits, feedback, or suggestions, that would be most welcome too. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 00:11, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

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