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ARCHIVE 3 June 28, 2007 to September 22, 2007

Stuff
My condolences on the merge. Haven't heard from you lately, you still interested in this conference idea? Don't be a stranger. KPalicz 21:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

OBMHoF
Glad you like the table. I never complain when people add value! (Especially when it saves me effort.) Thanks for the offer of help; feel free to fill in any gaps that take your fancy - especially the 2007 table when I've created it. I can't wait to start writing articles for the artists. Don't let me hold you up! Pdfpdf

if we have the date of death we don't need to say (deceased) - Agreed, but what about where we don't have the date of death? (Viz: Lloyd Hunter (deceased); Sylvester (Syl) Johnson (deceased).) Pdfpdf 14:23, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Houston Alexander
Thank you for the recent clean-up and expansion of this article. You are awesome. :) -- 健次 (derumi)talk 18:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Student engagement
Hi Freechild. You are off to such a great start on the article Student engagement that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. Appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Again, great job on the article. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Rev. Patrick Henderson
Hi Again. I need you to work your magic (y'know - add categories, etc.) on Rev. Patrick Henderson - It's another one of those pages I started in May and forgot about! It has started attracting the attention of bots. Thanks. Pdfpdf 00:19, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I specialize in finding the notability of obscure - but notable. Do you think Henderson is sufficiently notable? If not, what line-of-action do you suggest? Also, I can't find any biographical information; can you? Regards, Pdfpdf 03:25, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Reply (and questions) posted at ‎User talk:Pdfpdf Pdfpdf 14:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The only picture I've found is a handy one on the 1996 album cover: http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:Saints%20Praise%20and%20Worship:1921192726;_ylt=AhrQU3dmjC68CofVYU3b2sZUvQcF;_ylu=X3oDMTBzZTVhM3RqBF9zAzk1OTUxMTEzBGx0AzQEc2VjA2FydHByb2Q- Pdfpdf 09:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

OBMHoF 2007 awards
Me again. I'm rather uncomfortable with a number of the 2007 awards; they don't seem to have much, if anything, to do with the Black Music heritage (e.g. Gabrielle Union, Susan T Buffett.) Do you have an opinion? Pdfpdf 03:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I decided to email OBMHoF. I got a reply! I have email-ed a copy of it to you. Pdfpdf 15:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Anita Baker
Howdy. It's not in your field-of-interest, but ... Anita Baker did a cover of What a fool believes which, in my opinion, is the best version of the song I've heard. I managed to "acquire" a copy of the track itself fairly easily, but I can't find any information about it, or references to its origins - not even a date recorded. Could I impose upon you to have a quick look and see if you can find anything? Much obliged. Pdfpdf 13:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Postscript: Where are you up to with Music in Omaha? I'm afraid I disappeared down the Saddle Creek rabbit hole, and then got even further distracted, and then the OBMHoF 2007 Awards were posted on the website, and then ... Pdfpdf 13:59, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I dug, I found something you'd posted on a forum with this question, and I cannot find anything specifically about Anita Baker singing "What a Fool Believes". Aretha Franklin? Found her. George Michael citation? Found it. But I can find nothing - not a thing - mentioning the remote possibility that Anita Baker sang this song. Give me another one when you get it. – Freechild (BoomCha) 16:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't feel nearly so bad that I can't find things if you can't either!! What was the George Michael citation? And where are you up to with Music in Omaha? Cheers, Pdfpdf 16:28, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I added the GM citation to What a Fool Believes. So you did. (Obviously, you type much more quickly than I do!) Again, Thank You. RE: Music in Omaha, I'm just tweaking it. Would you like me to resume reviewing it? Pdfpdf 16:49, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Slowdown (venue)

 * Also, I have concerns about the notability of Slowdown (venue). I'll work on that, but want to give you a chance too, as well. – Freechild (BoomCha) 16:27, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh. I suppose we could roll it into Saddle Creek Records?? Pdfpdf 16:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Also, aside from the above, I don't see anything notable about Slowdown Virginia. I am finding a lot of notable citations for the venue though. – Freechild (BoomCha) 16:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I added some notability stuff to the Slowdown (venue) article - but it could use more.

Good.


 * Two suggestions:
 * Avoid in-line citations for off-WP links ...

I do. (Or at least, I am under the impression that I do!!) Where did you find one/some?
 * The second suggestion is to cite all the info you find whenever you add it ...

Mmmm. I'm less adamant about that one. Let's just say "I'm under the impression that I generally do.", but examples of where I haven't are easier to find than I thought they would be. Guess I need to tighten up on that one.
 * Just a few suggestions ...

Keep them coming; I always find them useful.


 * Give me anther Anita Baker-like fastball when you get a one - that was aggravatingly fun. (PS - I'm still looking - I've got some "feelers" out among musician friends. Was it a live recording by chance?) – Freechild (BoomCha) 16:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

No. I can email it to you if you wish?


 * Sure, go for it with the Music in Omaha article. It really needs work - and any citations you can find! Thanks!

OK. Will do.


 * Oh, and by the way, why hasn't your gracious friend from the OBMHoF replied to my email? Did you get my cc of it? Hmmm. – Freechild (BoomCha) 16:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I assume that question is semi-rhetorical? I got a new computer yesterday, and haven't set everything up yet. I just checked my email. Yes, I did get your cc. Well, it's only just over 24 hours ago, and it looks to me like he answers his email in the morning, so there's a chance that you'll get something in the next hour or so. (BTW: I would have preferred that you'd editted out the personal comments; fortunately they weren't too offensive!) Goodness me, it's 3am!! Pdfpdf 17:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Vaughn
Has he replied yet? Pdfpdf 00:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, not yet. I've had this response before. I emailed both the owner of the Great Plains Black History Museum and the publisher of the Omaha Star, and nadda either way. I think it might overwhelm them, especially the page I created. Well, what's a guy to do? I'll just keep writing and wait for the world to catch up... – Freechild (BoomCha)

Good heavens! You have been busy, haven't you. Where do you find the time? I must admit I'm surprised you've had zero response, particularly from Vaughn. Given my experience of his impeccable manners, I would have expected at least a brief note acknowledging your email. Maybe they are all still busy reading your contributions? Pdfpdf 00:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Still no reply? Pdfpdf 10:02, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Still nothing. I'm sending another one right now. – Freechild (BoomCha) 13:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Might I suggest that you word it in terms of doing something for him, rather than asking him to do something for you? Pdfpdf 14:15, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

His email suggested to me he had a lot to do, and I felt your experience could be useful to him, (as well as giving you access to an unusual and rich source of information.) Pdfpdf 14:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Wotzup? Pdfpdf 16:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Experiential education
Thanks 4 yr wrk on Experiential education - Jtneill - Talk 02:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

University of Saskatchewan
Noticed you were a member of Wikiproject Canada - Education.... Celebrate the Centennial University of Saskatchewan Anniversary in the year 2007. Would you please go to Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive and vote for this University of Saskatchewan article!!! Tell any and all other editors / U of S students you know who wiki to vote also please!!! Please help Celebrate the Anniversary of the U of S University of Saskatchewan Academics Talk Please help to bring the article to feature status !!!SriMesh | talk  02:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 04:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thank You!!! The next time an article is updated is Wednesday, and we are close....:-) SriMesh |  talk  02:57, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Anna Wilson (madame)
Hi Freechild. You are off to such a great start on the article Anna Wilson (madame) that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 21:05, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Claim club
Hi Freechild. You are off to such a great start on the article Claim club that it may qualify to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page under the Did you know... section. The Main Page gets about 4,000,000 hits per day and appearing on the Main Page may help bring publicity and assistance to the article. However, there is a five day from article creation window for Did you know... nominations. Before five days pass from the date the article was created and if you haven't already done so, please consider nominating the article to appear on the Main Page by posting a nomination at Did you know suggestions. If you do nominate the article for DYK, please cross out the article name on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Also, don't forget to keep checking back at Did you know suggestions for comments regarding your nomination. Again, great job on the article. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 17:43, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
 * My 17:43, 21 July 2007 post above was two minutes before your 17:45, 20 July 2007 Claim Club DYK post, so it does not appear have been for an article that you already nominated. My Anna Wilson (madame) post did overlap, however. Your Claim Club DYK prompting post (above) was one of about 30 I posted at one time and culled from about 50 potential DYK prompting post at the "Good" articles proposed by bot list. Most of the people receiving the DYK prompting post are new to Wikipedia and do not know about DYK. The issue of suggesting someone make a DYK post came up before. To address this, we added the language "if you haven't already done so" to the prompting notification (see above). The best way to prevent your receipt of a DYK prompting post for one of your articles is to keep an eye on the "Good" articles proposed by bot list and put a line through your article's name if it appears on the list. You also might try to post a message at User_talk:AlexNewArtBot asking him to add a line to the Bot that excludes your posts from being added to the DYK |"Good" articles proposed by bot. --  Jreferee  (Talk) 03:38, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Alberta?
a) Welcome back. b) "This user is a citizen of Canada and lives in Alberta"????? OK. I'm confused. You know my email address ... Pdfpdf 10:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

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 * Punk robot - didn't even give me a chance to due my work. Shoooot. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 04:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

re: Excellent!
Thanks! I've never seen this 'brilliant idea' barnstar before! Very kind of you. I wasn't aware that there had been much discussion on such a template, goes to show I don't read enough before I be bold! Glad that the creation of the template has been met with positive reactions rather than negative ones. :) SGGH speak! 21:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Pregnant patients' rights
I reverted your edit to this article linking to fear of childbirth and fear of children because they seem irrelevant to the article. Then I started wondering if there's a reason you added those links that I have not thought of. What is the connection?

Cheers! --Ginkgo100talk 21:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Omaha Children's Museum
Hi Freechild, I reworded this from Foundation to private foundation, because it didn't make any sense at all, so I edited it to for sensicalness, only.

The following link, however, shows that it's a public charity, not a private foundation:
 * justgive

So, it appears that maybe the author meant foundation as a synonym for corporation.Fredsmith2 00:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

A modest proposal
It's been a while since I've done any major article reworking, but after reading the Tulsa, Oklahoma article, it dawned on me that it probably wouldn't take *that* much work to rewrite the Omaha article so that it could get FA consideration. Take a look at the Tulsa article; it's a very applicable model for any future work on the Omaha article. – Swid (talk · edits) 16:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
 * I've never committed that much work to one article, but I would be willing to participate in a campaign to take over the world - I mean, get Omaha considering for FA. I will start to rewrite the article ala Tulsa, and will look for you to chip in along the way when possible/interested. I don't know how many folks are watching it, but should we let folks know about said effort on the Omaha talk page? – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 08:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Child labor tags on Lowell girls
I don't know that the child labor category really applies much to Lowell girls. The title of the article is a colloquial expression, referring to 16–25-year-old women. There were girls aged 10+ in the factories, but most of the article deals with adults. — Scartol  ·  Talk  11:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Your comments on my talk page make sense. Just wanted to make sure. — Scartol  ·  Talk  11:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Lester Abrams
What a peculiar system!

An arbitrary person (User:Ludahai, who's command of grammar is somewhat questionable) has come along to the LA talk page and has changed "WikiProject Biography" into "WikiProject Biography|class=B|listas=Abrams, Lester", only leaving behind the edit comment "(assess, add listas)" as an explanation/justification. Further, although before they came the talk page said: "Please rate the article and, if you wish, leave comments here regarding your assessment or the strengths and weaknesses of the article.", after they left the talk page no longer displays that link, and the link on the "before" page is still red, suggesting they haven't left any comment justification.

So, have I got this right? Anyone can come along and rate an article, and they don't have to explain/justify their rating?

If so, what a peculiar system. Pdfpdf 13:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)


 * -- Assessing biographies --
 * First off, its great to hear from you - it looks like you've been busy.
 * Second, yes, you've got it right. Anyone can assess any article for any WikiProject, although its mildly discouraged.


 * I've written a couple dozen biographies of folks now, and I still remember that my first reaction to the rating was similar to yours, something to the effect of "WTF?!?" But then I learned that each WikiProject is responsible for assessing their own related articles. The idea behind the system is to give everyone a standard for developing articles they have common interest in. Here's WikiProject Biography's page on assessment if you're interested.


 * Oh, and don't take the ratings personally - they're supposed to reflect the quality of the article, which I've discovered has a lot to do with the length as much as the prose or information presented therein. A "B" rating means the article is on its way.


 * Keep in touch. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 14:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh! The calming voice of experience.

Hi Freechild. Yes, I've been busy. (Or should I say, "occupied".) And I'm glad you're so positive about my return. (However, to be honest, I didn't realise I'd been away!!) Cheers, Pdfpdf 22:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

25 DYK Medal
I have also added your name to this list. Keep it up! Broken Sphere Msg me 03:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK
Nice article :) Cheers,  Daniel  06:37, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

African Americans in Omaha, Nebraska
(Twice in the same week!) When trying to find something else unrelated, I came across this page. Knowing you have a "finger in this pie", I started reading. I fiddled with the references, too. Well, I'll get back to what I was doing! Regards, Pdfpdf 14:48, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
 * After making important political and economic contributions to the city for more than thirty years, the first lynching of a black person in Omaha occurred in 1891, ...  - I know what the sentence is trying to say or imply, but it isn't actually saying it. Also, grammaticly that first phrase has no subject, and its implied subject is not the same as the subject of the sentence.
 * The lynching of Willy Brown in 1919 ... The following century saw the emergence ...  - The civil rights movement emerged in the same century, not the following century. I changed "century" to "decades".
 * On my screen there's a large gap of white space between the heading "History", and the start of the text.
 * Is the list of Notable African Americans in any particular order? If so, I can't spot one.

Try convincing my wife of that. She thinks I should be out in the garden working, not sitting in here with "the other woman". Pdfpdf 13:59, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

RFA?
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Monroe Middle
Thanks for editing the Monroe page for me. I really appreciate it.

-WWE0124 —Preceding unsigned comment added by WWE0124 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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Anita Baker Aretha Franklin
It would seem that Aretha has released two (quite different) covers of WAFB(talk)!! -- Pdfpdf 00:00, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I want to know where you found the two versions?


 * (Presumably you've read Talk:What a Fool Believes?)

Originally I found a sample of what I now call the non-1980 version. I didn't think much of it. Soon after (on Limewire) I found a version (wrongly) labelled "Anita Baker", which turns out to be the 1980 version. Now I can no longer locate the non-1980 version! However, there are stacks of references to the 1980 version:
 * 1980 12" Album - Aretha - Track 6 - sample (chorus 30 secs) - http://www.mp3.com/albums/31212/summary.html
 * 1980 12" single - side A - http://www.discogs.com/release/455043
 * 1980 12" single - Both sides - http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=409676
 * 1981 7" single - side A - http://www.discogs.com/release/899535
 * 1990 Re-release as a CD - Track 6 - sample (first 30 secs) - http://www.amazon.com/Aretha-Franklin/dp/B000002VFY.
 * 1991 Re-release as a cassette - http://www.amazon.com/Aretha-Franklin/dp/B000002VL4/ref=mb_oe_c/102-5655056-6654538

So now I'm begining to wonder about the existence of the "other" version! Pdfpdf 07:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * What perplexes me is that you found info on Amazon - because I had looked there. Oh well. Congrats on such an obscure find. – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 13:12, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't take any credit; I didn't find anything. As it says on Talk:What a Fool Believes, it was Slithymatt who listened to the mp3 and identified it. The reason you didn't find anything anywhere is because you were looking for a song by Anita Baker - a song that she has never recorded! To compound my ineptitude, I now can't even find the original Aretha version that I started with 3 months ago! (But thanks for the kind words.) Pdfpdf 13:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Oooohhh... well, then, if that's the case, I rescind my early congrats. I didn't read the talk page that closely.

Other "stuff"
Well then, if that's all done you must be on to some other wonderful obscure WP topic? – Freechild ( ¡!¡!¡!¡ ) 13:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

You guessed it. In descending order: See User:Pdfpdf for the full list, Pdfpdf 13:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Notable Rhodes Scholars
 * TLA & Three letter acronym
 * Odd Fellows & Oddfellows
 * Program for Evaluating Complementary Medicine‎
 * The Winans; Winans family etc., etc., etc.
 * Heart (band)

OBMHoF
I guess I've lost enthusiasm for OBMHoF ... Pdfpdf 01:03, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

No offense intended
I am not entirely sure which DYK nomination you are referring to, but I never intended to offend anyone. I think you are referring to Lincoln Highway - am I correct? Might you let me know what offended you so that I can avoid the mistake in the future? I am actually serious about wanting the Buffalo Bill Ranch page expanded - I used to live out there and the ranch is in interesting place. I thought it would make a good article. For the ongoing discussion of how to choose DYK's, see Wikipedia talk:Did you know. We are doing a trial run of this "checking" process. Awadewit | talk  22:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)