User talk:Freefrankgable

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Free Frank Gable
Just an FYI if you are somehow involed with trying to free Gable, please read the conflict of interest guideline. Aboutmovies 22:30, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi!

If this is the operator of the website freefrankgable.com, here are a few ways you can help, without running afoul of Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest guidelines.


 * Do not that your website doesn't meet Wikipedia's reliable source guidelines. This is nothing personal, and it is not because your site is controversial or disagreeable; but simply because it is self-published.  There's a lot of useful material there, but we prefer to source things to reliable published primary and secondary sources (published government documents, newspaper accounts, court records, etc.)  Many of the claims on your site do appear to be attributable elsewhere.
 * If you have are in possession of records which aren't published (i.e., which Wikipedia readers cannot access from their computer, or from a library or government records office), we can't use those. If, however, they are published somewhere by a reliable source which can vouch for their authenticity, then we can.
 * Also read WP:BLP. While you haven't made any attempts to include this sort of stuff on Wikipedia, your website contains some rather strong claims concerning Scott McAlister.  As Mr. Macalister is still alive, we absolutely cannot accuse him of anything that we cannot backup with a reliable source.  Referencing news accounts concerning his possible role in the case is fine.  Confronting him in his driveway and including that in Wikipedia, is not.  (See--I did read your site. :)  ).  As Hoyt Cupp and Timothy Natividad are deceased (and cannot sue Wikipedia or Wikipedia editors), we have a little more leeway with these folks; but still--don't say anything nasty that you can't backup with a reliable source.
 * One other way you can help us--your website has numerous photographs--of Gable and others. If there are any of those which you a) own the copyright to and b) are willing to license under the GFDL (Gnu Free Documentation License) or a similar license, we then could include the images in the article.  Only the copyright holder (usually the photographer for photographs) can grant Wikipedia permission to use the photographs.  If you are the copyright holder and are not willing to license the pictures in this manner, or don't know who the copyright holder is, that's OK.
 * And finally--keep in mind our neutral point of view policy. The Francke case is highly controversial, and our article needs to fairly present all sides of the story to the extent that they are supportable.  So far your edits are staying "in bounds", but it is sometimes difficult to edit an article on a topic you care deeply about.

Anyways, welcome to Wikipedia!

--EngineerScotty 18:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)