User talk:Freekymunky/Collins and Herring (6 music show)

Requested Move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

No consensus to move. With references and showing that this meets WP:N, this can be reconsidered. Vegaswikian (talk) 18:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Freekymunky/Collins and Herring (6 music show) → Collins and Herring (6 music show) — A newly created page to cater for a broken link in the Richard Herring page. Freekymunky (talk) 22:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Oppose this is completely unsourced and would likely not survive a deletion discussion in this form.--76.66.182.164 (talk) 23:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Assistance Required this is my first contribution, I believe I've referenced sources appropriately but the above comment suggests not. What am I missing, what changes would be required? (Freekymunky (talk) 19:42, 21 October 2010 (UTC)) OK, so on the subject of notability: On the subject of citing sources: Thanks in advance - just trying to get a clear idea of what I need to do. (Freekymunky (talk) 22:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)) Thanks gu1dry, that is all helpful. I am still frustrated, though. The facts are not disputable - I have 9 months worth of radio podcasts downloaded to prove it - but I'm struggling to find independent sources on the internet that detail them. I understand this comes back to the notability aspect but, on checking the BBC figures, 6 music has a listenership of around 80,000 with around 15,000 downloading the C&H podcast - doesn't this make it notable? It just seems there is some missing info that could easily be filled in and wouldn't realistically be disputable. Is there some other way I should/could provide the information or will it always be at risk if deletion if I can't refer to another independent website that contains the same information? (Freekymunky (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2010 (UTC))
 * Please review WP:Notability & WP:References for further info. 「ɠu¹ɖяy」 ¤ • ¢ 02:42, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * There are plenty of mentions in the blogs of Collins and Herring, but I guess these don't count as they're self-promotion?
 * Are any details on the BBC website ruled out for the same reason?
 * I've searched and found plenty of forums discussing it, but I'm guessing these won't count as they're just opinion?
 * I found one article on the Guardian website referring to the show (and the recycling of Adam & Joe ideas) but would this alone be sufficient?
 * I compiled the article myself based on my knowledge of the show - is it necessary to use sources in this case? If the information isn't out there, then isn't that what Wikipedia is for? Or is this a suitable case for using the blogs and BBC site in terms of dates, content of the show etc?
 * On the point about blogs, blogs are very hit or miss. Really on stick to professional/factual blogs & stay away from opinionated/personal blogs. BBC can use sparsely & should not be the sole reference. Ya forums are typically no good. As for your second point, see WP:Original for info on that & if the info is not there, than is it really notable? 「ɠu¹ɖяy」 ¤ • ¢ 00:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.