User talk:Freewayguy/Archieve 11

Long Island Expressway HOV Lanes
As somebody who has driven on Interstate 495 (New York), and is doing so during his vacation to New York City & Long Island, I can assure you that the HOV lanes in the median of the highway do in fact run from Exit 31 Cross Island Parkway to Exit 64 at Medford in central Suffolk County. Although between Exits 31 & 32 they aren't HOV lanes. DanTD (talk) 21:50, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This I have no clue because I never been to New York, and only 17 and a half and high school of 2009. The only other states I been to besides California is DOC; Chicago and Denver Airport and Anchorage Rpte only for intermissions slots. About the I-495 (NY) I just go by the purple tag; earler told us to merge.-- Free way guy T C 00:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Good article for CR S18 (CA)?
I nominated CR S18 (CA) for the good article review. Would it be okay if you can give a good article review for County Route S18 (California)? Thanks. Dabbydabby (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

How come you aren't responding to my message? Are you going to do the good article review for CR S18 or not? Dabbydabby (talk) 02:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

tall cool glass of oj
What's this orange-yellow tag for?-- Free way guy T C 00:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
 * A Thank you? If you don't want it I can take it down... :(  Serendi pod ous  07:03, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Kansas
Using state-name shields for now sounds like a plan. I may be visiting Kansas soon; I'll try to remember to check whether I see more state-name or neutered shields. If possible, I'll look on the back of them as well; KDOT always sticks a small orange tag on the back of the shield that includes the date of install.

(Oh, and by the way, I think the guy who posted above me is just being nice and posting a picture of a glass of orange juice as sort of a "reward" for your work. The yellow-orange color of the box is just to match the color of the juice.) —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:46, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the guy who puit the orange-yellow ad for me anyways. Actually I like to dringk sodas, I sometimes drink up to 3 sodas a day (on avg. 2).-- Free way guy T C 00:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

South Carolina, Alabama, and Wyoming
For those places or pink states I dont see state documents found. So I suggest we stick with state-name specific until we get the proper specs.-- Free way guy T C 00:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Glendora Curve
Please do not delete content or templates from pages on Wikipedia without explaining the valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. --Justpassin (talk) 19:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

no; the information is mention on i-210; and it is merge we has discussion about it, and all the infos is on I-210.-- Free way guy T C 00:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/254 in Ireland
In Articles for deletion/254 in Ireland you wrote, "Thisw is neologism." How could a year in a country be a neologism? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:54, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Neology means vague, I just join AFD committes to keep me active, when I run oout of things to do.-- Free way guy T C 19:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Neologism does not mean vague, and even if it did, "254 in Ireland" is not vague – it's actually quite specific as to what it means. I suggest you read Neologisms to refamiliarize yourself with the definition. -- Kéiryn (talk) 00:13, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yea, NE2 nominate the AFD for the article I made is Los Alamitos Curve.-- Free way guy T C 20:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

DOT installation lag time
Well, my understanding is that the DOT will typically manufacture a bunch of identical signs (perhaps 20 at one time) and store them in a warehouse until they are needed. When a sign needs to be posted, then they can just get as many as they need out of the warehouse and put them up, and they don't have to wait for the sign shop to process the order and ship the signs to the appropriate field division.

This might not make sense at first, so I'll give you an example. Oklahoma DOT's sign shop is located in Oklahoma City and there are 8 field divisions, each with a central office, which probably keeps signs in storage. If a stop sign were destroyed or stolen in Division 2, for instance, it would probably take several hours for the sign shop to do the paperwork, process the order, and make the sign. It would then take several more hours for an ODOT truck to take the sign to Antlers, where the Division 2 office is. And then the Division 2 office would have to pick a worker and tell him to go out and put the stop sign up. All of this time waiting for the sign to be made means that for most of a day there is an intersection missing a stop sign, which is obviously dangerous as it might cause accidents. So the division will simply ask for perhaps 20 stop signs at once, and keep them in storage until they need them. Then when they need a stop sign they can just have a worker go and grab the sign and put it up. Guide signage like Interstate shields is of lesser importance, of course, because there's a reduced risk that its absence will cause wrecks, but they do the same sort of thing to minimize delays.

One particular Interstate 35 shield manufactured by the Oklahoma DOT sign shop has a manufacture date of August 2000. Written on the back in grease pencil is "01-24-2001", which I'm pretty sure is the installation date; that means the shield was probably in storage for about five months. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Colorado
Well, interstate-gude uses pink to color Colorado. Honestly, I don't know if its using neutral or state/specific shields. This proof still shows CO uses state/name specific often enough to include it in article. And I only been to Denver Airport, only traveling to Washington, DC, and thats 3 years ago. I never been on those highways so I don't know. Using neutral shields also needs a source, with sign drawing, proving state/specific is no longer valid or black shade on interstate-guide.-- Free way guy T C 00:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

I found this for Texas, but the sign drawing is for green tour signs only, and blue signs for RSA. This might show, state/name is no longer mandatory. I still don't know about Colorado, becasue MUTCD displays official sign drawing, but I can't access it.-- Free way guy T C 01:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrong-colored shields
All of the U.S. route shields in Oklahoma are black and white, to my knowledge. Florida once used a system where every U.S. route had a different colored shield (all US-17 shields were yellow, all US-92 shields were blue, US-27 was green, etc.) FHWA finally told them they couldn't do that anymore, or they would lose access to the federal government's road money. This is how FHWA enforces things like the MUTCD: if you do something dramatically against federal policy, like violate the MUTCD, or set the minimum drinking age below 21, or back in the days of the National Maximum Speed Limit law, if you set the speed limit above 55 MPH, FHWA would cut off the funding to the state DOT. Most states couldn't maintain their road system without the federal government money, so they have no choice but to comply. Anyway, when Florida was faced with the choice of switching to black-and-white shields or losing funding, they decided to do what FHWA wanted.

Note that FHWA will only cut off funding for serious things...minor sign errors like leaving off the state name or misspelling a word or putting up a state route shield when a U.S. shield is needed aren't big enough for FHWA to care about. If the state decided they wanted to make all the green guide signs blue instead like they have in England, FHWA would probably tell them they can't do that. Only deliberate defiance of federal guidelines is enough to get their attention.

In the past, other states have experimented with colored route shields: Arizona did so in the 1960s, with a system where all northbound routes were one color, all southbound another, and so on. When US 56 was first signed, KDOT celebrated the new route by signing it on special green shields, to draw attention to its newness. Both of these were before FHWA existed, though; its predecessor, the Bureau of Public Roads (BPR), didn't seem nearly as strict about things.

Large green guide signs are very expensive - the sign itself is $20 to $25 per square foot, and then gantries are about $6,000 or $7,000 $30,000 to $60,000 each. That means that they're usually replaced only once every ten years or so. Independent mount signs are more prone to damage (getting run over, damage due to high winds, etc) so they may be replaced more often. Every sign eventually wears out though...the reflective sheeting eventually fades and falls apart. But there are some independent-mount signs in Oklahoma that look like they've been around since the 1960s or so. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Alot of odd colours come from old inventories, like brown guide sign in Arizona, and black guide signs in California is like in 1964, after great California Highway Developments. The orange or yellow guide is use for construxction warning I-405/i-10 interchanges. massachusetts DOT is worse maybe than Oklahoma.-- Free way guy Talk Contribs 19:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)


 * On airport they may use blue guide signs. At Yosemite I went over summer I do see some brown guide signs. Things change. nowadays Green signs is use on California state shields. Long time ago they have use white ones.-- Free way guy Talk Contribs 19:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)