User talk:Freewayguy/Archieve 12

I-587
Uh!TMF turn me wrong. I-587 is sign and is distinctive route between I-587. I dont know why he merges it. From this website I do't see I-587 unsign, the sign is show alot of places as I see though I never been to New York.-- Free way guy Talk Contribs 03:35, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I-587, and all information about it, is completely within that of both NY 28 and the route article, and it's therefore superfluous to have a separate article that would be barely a start-class at best. To contrast your comments on the NY 28 talk page, NY 290 and I-290 in New York are very distinct, separate routes far from each other and merging them into a single article would be improper. Regarding I-238 and CA 238: The construction of the route to interstate standards, together with the naming of the route itself (violating the numbering rules) is notable enough for separate articles to exist. In addition, several New York state routes are insignificant enough for them to be listed in a separate article, a list of minor routes in the state; the information for that was gleaned from what used to be stub articles. Fwgoebel (talk) 12:12, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

i-190/SR 190 is distintive too; so they shouldnt be merge. I-495/SR 495 have purple tag before; so I was told to merge.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 19:42, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I saw I-587 signs on blue guide signs; now mostly people use green guide signs.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 19:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Michigan Department of Transportation
They abbreviate their name as MDOT, not MIDOT. I updated the maint parameters you added to the wikilink MDOT so it appears at MDOT. Thanks for adding them though! I'm slowly trying to get all of the MI articles updated with maintenance. Imzadi1979 (talk) 23:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I never been to Michigan, so I dont know. I just have to get it click in my mind its M abbrv. The state highway is white diamond shape and proper name is M-16.-- Free way guy Discuss Infolog 23:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Oklahoma
ODOT has more problems than I could list. The badly capitalized sign is about the worst example, but there are hundreds of things wrong throughout the state ranging from bizarre (random capitalization issues), to annoying (different thicknesses of the state outline on state highway shields), to confusing (the Idabel bypass), to outright dangerous (bridges dropping chunks of concrete). Yes, Missouri is generally better. As far as I know I've never said anything about purple shields. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 05:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

NMDOT has many problems too. Brown guide signs may be old inventories, anyways New Mexico is quite a boring place.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 23:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Things do change over time. White California shields have exist in the past, same as black guide signs. I don't know if Arizona is a good DOT; I hear going on those infrasts is boring.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 19:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

I-910
This is not a vandal, I'm just trying to make I-910 in the browser section. I-910 is not sign, so it should appear in smaller section. I-49 is not designate yet, so it only appear in small icons.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 01:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Move the blue plate plus 910 into icons. Browser is tough to do still.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 19:52, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Artisol's proxys
Guys stop! Complain on your own talkpage not mine. And do not harass me.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 20:04, 12 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Those anonys harrassign me needs to stop! Otherwise I'll note the admins.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 01:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Continue your conv. at another place or User talk:Artisol2345, not mine. yorkabes is your socks, I belive Rschen7754 is right, and you only lie to get out of trouble. Quit harassing me, and we finish the conversation now.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 00:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Kansas
Is any users active right now? Knasas to me seems like the white text is fatter, and the style looks more like Oklahoma style, not old New york style. User:O upload this image without propoer sign drawing, and I doubt if it use neutral or state/name specific shields. This is what happens without proper specs, and too late to change. If somebody is willing to fix Kansas shield they welcome to do so, but I don't mind. Ltlj is not often on so it might take a while for him to answer me.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 00:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Washington state
Thanks. Now, if you actually read what I wrote, you'd find out that I already answered most of those questions. A non-cutout shield is one that has a white square background, which is fairly common in Rhode Island. (Wisconsin has a few with a black square background as well.) I thought I was pretty clear on Computerguy's talk page that most new interstate shields in Washington are cutout neutered shields, so the map on interstateguide.com is right in this regard. However, it is still really easy to find state name shields in Washington. -- Kéiryn (talk) 04:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

That map is right. Except black state doesn't mean is all neutral shields. They have list on bottom for sparsingly use state-name shields. Georgia, still have lots of state/specific, and technically use both types of shields. Just now they more often post neutral shields than state/specific.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 04:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

State Route 241
Its not the EPA trying to stop it. Its the Liberals who live 700 miles north of where the road would be built, in San Francisco, I believe they are called the Sierra Club "A LEFTIST COMMIE ORGANIZATION". The road will not effect them in any way, but they protest it because the road is slated to run though a SO-CALLED State Park. Here is the ABSOLUTE Truth about this SO-CALLED State Park. San Onofre State Park, is "REALLY NOT" a State Park. The land the park is located on is part of the Camp Joseph Pendleton Marine Corps Base. The Marine Corps back in the 1970's "LEASED" the land to the State of California to operate as a park. The United States Marine Corps, by way of the Department of the United States Navy, still maintains jurisdiction, and the Right of Way for that land. What happens to that land will ultimatly be up to The United States Marine Corps, The United States Navy, and the Department of Defense.

I however do personal believe the road will be built. Too much is riding on it for it not to be built. The The TCA has appealed the California Coastal Commission's ""ANOTHER LEFTIST COMMIE ORGANIZATION, THAT HATES PROGRESS IN AMERICA" decision to deny the TCA the ability to build the road, to the Secretary of Commerce.--Subman758 (talk) 04:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It will still take quite a loong time. The I-710 on the other hand don't seem it will be built. This will take away lands for city up in Pasadena, thats northeast of LA.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 04:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I-635 TX
Image:Interstate 635 (Texas).svg is closer to the MUTCD than the other two images, I believe. Note that the text in the red area at the top of the shield is wider (Series E text) than in the other two shields (which have Series D). Last I checked, that was what the national MUTCD recommended. However, many DOTs use the narrower font instead for some reason. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 05:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought Texas actually no longer use state-name specific. Alot of places white font is actually wider, and if they still use state-specific, they look almost like neutral-style, just have room for state-name to show. Noarrow font is generally old inventories.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 05:09, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

California is actually the best 'DOT to my desktop. Black guide signs have exist in California log time ago like later 50s to early 60s. White California shields also have exist in the past.-- Freewayguy  Discussions Show all changes 02:07, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
 * To which article does this pertain? —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 01:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

New Mexico

 * I visited northeastern New Mexico and found the signage to be quite poor, including one intersection which had shields, but no arrows directing motorists to the proper highways. I basically had to guess which highway was which.


 * Per WP:TALK and WP:MYSPACE, talk pages are only to be used for discussions that specifically regard article content, and not social networking. I appreciate your desire to learn more about highways, but Wikipedia isn't really the proper venue for general Q&A. I strongly suggest you instead post to misc.transport.road or the Roadgeek Yahoo! group, as those are larger groups of people who are more knowledgeable about this sort of thing than I am. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 02:03, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Wow, thats scary. An highway sign even on green route display without arrows pointing north, south, west, and east is even worse than DOT not following state documents. The brown guide signs is not a big deal because thats old inventory. Some signs on New Mexico may be unclear, or rust, and some signs outdate may not even be update. California (place I live) I think is the best DOT, all the signs is clear. In Los Angeles-Orange County they might not put alternative names on frwy names because they dont attract travelers concern. For example some places in California the signs just say I-105 west to LAX, east to Norwalk. I-605 official alternate name is San Gabriel River Frwy, but the green tour sign just identify them as I-605 Frwy. I've been on the I-605 handfuls of times, the strange thing is I-605 has no official control cities like Seal Beach or El Monte. The green signs basically displays it as either North, or South. The I-710 Long Beach Frwy is post on some intersections like I-405 they say i-710 Long Beach Frwy, south-Long Beach, north-Pasadena. I even got the control cities of SoCal Frwy in my memory bank.

And also, In New Mexico, the interstates is clear. I do see blue arrows points west, east on I-10. I belive US do too. Just suspicious state routes, just say like SR 89 without menting north or south, maybe what makes you almost lost in Northeastern new mexico.-- Freewayguy  Msg USC 20:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)