User talk:Frenchgirlinsand

September 2012
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia. However, please know that editors do not own articles and should respect the work of their fellow contributors on Chelsea Wolfe. If you create or edit an article, know that others are free to change its content. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Hello Stuartyeates - Are you the one who has been editing the Chelsea Wolfe Chelsea Wolfe page? I meant no disrespect when I updated it. It's just that I work very closely with Chelsea Wolfe and as such, I know the correct titles and information about her releases and history. "Tour 2009" "Russian Karaoke" and "Daytrotter sessions" cannot be considered "releases" as "Tour 2009" was 20 copies of a CD-R she sold on a short tour, not properly released, "Russian Karaoke" was a concept that never actually existed, and Daytrotter Sessions was an online sesssion, not a release. There are actual releases in existence that were not listed, and also some of her bandmates were listed as playing incorrect instruments, etc. Please respect my knowledge on this subject. I wrote it without bias, just with correct information. I may not be an editing expert, but as I said, I am very knowledgeable about accurate knowledge of Chelsea Wolfe's career, music videos, history and album releases. Thank you. :) Frenchgirlinsand (talk) 17:36, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * On wikipedia it doesn't matter what you know to be true. It matters what you have reliable sources for. Unless you have sources, your changes are going to continue to get reverted. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I will re-do my edit with new sources. I was the one who originally added most of those sources. Your information is incorrect. On Discogs it states that Tour 2009 is "Not On Label". She only made a few copies to sell; it being "self-released" is documented nowhere. And where did you find that Russian Karaoke is a valid release? It is not documented so this must be from your personal experience. I will correct the page with accurate sources now. Thanks for your help and the information. Frenchgirlinsand (talk) 18:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Alright - I have corrected the information based on reliable sources such as the artist's label websites, official website, official Facebook page and reliable, well-known music websites such as Pitchfork.com. Every piece of information is not only "true," but reliable and cited from sources. Please respect this. I appreciate your help! Frenchgirlinsand (talk) 19:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I've have reverted your changes again, because you have removed all the references supporting notability. Refs such as http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/15893-chelsea-wolfe-apokalypsis/ http://fineprintmag.net/2011/chelsea-wolfe-apokalypsis/ http://i-donline.com/2011/10/i-n-session-chelsea-wolfe/ and http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2012/07/24/157000434/song-premiere-chelsea-wolfe-way-we-used-to The subjects' facebook, record label and sites selling the releases are not independent. If you are who I think you are, you may want to read Autobiography. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:56, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I have worked with Chelsea Wolfe for four years. This is by no means an "autobiography." With my edits, there are still reliable sources cited like Pitchfork and NPR. I noticed you marked that my information was "vandalism" - but in fact the information you keep reverting to is actually vandalism and harmful to the subject because it misleads readers from knowing accurate information. The Tribute to Rudimentary Peni was removed a long time ago because a new full-band recording was made to be released on vinyl on Southern Records but the Chelsea Wolfe Wikipedia page does not reflect this. Ben Chisholm does not play "musical keyboard and guitar" he plays Synths and Bass. Chelsea Wolfe has only been an active musician since 2009. And there is no reliable source stating that Sargent House is called Sargent House Records. It is called Sargent House. "Appalachia" was the second single released on The Fader recently and you won't even allow me to add that? It's cite-able and I cited it properly. Remixes and Rarities was something the band gave a download away of as a gift for contributing to their Kickstarter. It was not a proper release. Citing a blog about the kickstarter does not seem very reliable. And you obviously have a personal vendetta against this artist, which is not very "proper Wikipedia etiquette" of you, and it's really too bad. Frenchgirlinsand (talk) 20:12, 26 September 2012 (UTC)