User talk:Frenchtulips

Belcourt Castle
Hi Frenchtulips! You can use the article you are copying and pasting as a source for edits to the article but you can't copy it verbatim, particularly when it isn't in the public domain. I will have to revert your most recent edit but you can utilize the talk page and discuss how you would like to incorporate information into the article. Please see here: Copy-paste. Thanks! Seven Letters 18:50, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Seven Letters, Sorry, I am new to this but honestly don't have time to waste on edits that are immediately deleted, so I welcome your help but confess a bit of frustration. How did you determine that the real estate advertisement for sale is not in public domain? If it is not, can it be reprinted with permission?  The advertisement is a temporary site that will be taken down shortly now that the sale has been completed. The information contained in it would be a great benefit to the article on Belcourt Castle.  Frenchtulips (talk) 19:24, 29 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi Frenchtulips. It's not in the public domain because all material published is the copyright of its publisher/owner unless *specifically* released into the public domain. We can utilize it as a source but we can't copy/paste. Using it as a source includes credits that would link to the original text. I am very familiar with the website that you are quoting and he does not remove articles. Also, the tone of the listing has literary flourishes that the Wikipedia community would not consider encyclopaedic. I actually have to run out to meet up with someone right now but I will come back here later on and help you incorporate that material into the article. Talk with you soon! Seven Letters 22:08, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Seven Letters, I tried to add this info as a postscript earlier but had trouble. Here was the basis of my question over the public domain, because of the site specifically being an advertisement for the sale of the property:

Copyright Laws for Print Advertising By Jonathan Lister, eHow Contributor

Copyright laws for print advertising cover the use of company logos and original images. This allows companies to protect brands while encouraging them to incorporate new styles and original works into advertising campaigns. Copyright protection is not granted to the language used in advertisements, meaning companies cannot usually copyright an entire print ad as an original creative work.

Because of the literary flourishes, I tried to put the entire ad into italics to distinguish it as a quoted text. There are some stellar photographs on the advertisement that I'd love to see included in the Belcourt entry as well. I would love to work with you on this but I have five children, one of whom has major medical issues, and I don't know when I'll have time to work with you on it. The entry deserves this information pertaining to the recent sale of this unusual historic property; that and a photo of the Gothic ballroom would make a valuable addition. Since I am unlikely to be able to do so in the near future, perhaps you would like to do it the way you feel is best, thanks. Best, -Susan Frenchtulips (talk) 04:05, 1 December 2012 (UTC)