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Soave enterprises
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The article Soave enterprises has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done because the article seemed to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it did not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the notability of the subject may be deleted at any time. If you can indicate why the subject is really notable, you are free to re-create the article, making sure to cite any verifiable sources.

Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and for specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for musicians, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

The article Soave Enterprises has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group or service and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:11, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages to Wikipedia. Doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Please see WP:CORP and WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:06, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you create an inappropriate page, you will be blocked from editing. NawlinWiki (talk) 19:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)


 * It's because you insist on including promotional/laudatory language like the following, which indicates that you're just trying to advertise these businesses:

"Tony Soave has built a diverse organization including businesses in Real Estate with luxury properties including Moraya Bay Beach Towers, in Beverage Distribution including Kalamazoo Beer Distributing, in Automotive Dealerships including Mercedes-Benz of Kansas City, in Metals Recycling including Zalev Brothers, Co. and in other Diversified Holdings in areas such as Industrial Services, Transportation and Hydroponics Technology including Great Northern Hydroponics.


 * Every year, the Soave Family of companies provides funds, expertise, volunteers and support to many of local charitable organizations, including College for Creative Studies, Cornerstone Schools, Matrix Human Services and The Capuchin Soup Kitchen. Also, the Soave Family has established Team Soave which,  sponsors the American Cancer Society’s 2008 Making Strides Against Breast Cancer event.

Also, most of your references are to Soave's own website and press releases. You really need to carefully read WP:NPOV and WP:SPAM. Arguably, Soave Enterprises is notable, and if you could write a neutral article that simply describes what the company does (and cites to external sources), and avoids the "Tony Soave is such a wonderful and beneficent business leader" tone, then it'd probably stick. You don't seem to be able to do that, which leads me to believe that you are Mr. Soave or are working for him. See WP:COI. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:33, 10 August 2008 (UTC) __________________________________________ Thanks for this help! It is not my intention to use promotional/laudatory language and in fact my goal is to complete this list. This is great feedback, I hope that I can make it stick now. However, there are some grey areas as indicated with my other questions.

I just simply started with Soave Enterprises because I live in Detroit and had just read a business article on them. I will certainly leave out the references that are on a companies own website but Forbes will certainly provides notability. Arguably, there is not a "Tony Soave is such a wonderful and beneficent business leader" tone, just facts like a.) Tony Soave is the original owner/founder/leader of Soave Enterprises and b.) As it's leader, Tony has grown/built a diverse billion dollar holding company in many areas. They (Soave Enterprises/Tony Soave) didn't start out with all of these holdings in 1961 and this type of "language" is clearly used in other company articles.

I will seek for help again from an experienced user with reference to this talk. Thanks.

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I don't do formal adoption, but I can offer some advice. Your first step is to decide whether this company meets the notability criteria. To do that, search for reliable sources. A notable business will be the subject of articles describing how it's important in its field- articles in business journals and newspapers, most especially. Avoid using the company's own materials; the article you write should rely on the information you can get from those independent sources. If you can't find independent sources, or if those sources are little blurbs that don't have the scope you need to really describe what makes the company significant, then that means that the company just doesn't meet the notability criteria. No big deal; most companies don't. If the company DOES meet the criteria, then you can use the sources you found to write about its history and its significance, making sure to cite the sources and keep your information neutral and verifiable. I'm a big fan of using featured articles as models for new articles; it can help to see how a good article looks. I found articles about Oliver Typewriter Company, Bank of China (Hong Kong), and BAE Systems that seemed to be good examples of articles about a specific business. WP:FIRST is a pretty good source of advice for beginners about writing good articles, and has links to specifics of citation and style. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

adoption offer
I am willing to adopt you. Contact me on my talk page and let me know what you decide. :)  Burner  0718  03:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Glad to see you accepted my offer. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ). I would say all of those are reliable sources. The Manual of Style offers more detail than I could ever give about writing an article. You can incorporate the links content into the article but you have to reword it to avoid copyright violations. On another note, I just copied the contents of Soave Enterprises to User:Freshmenz/Soave Enterprises, only without the tags. Should it get deleted in main space, We can work on it in your userspace and then move it when we're ready. I've done this before with Antonio Henton. If you have anymore questions, feel free to let me know.  Burner 0718  Jibba Jabba! 02:57, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

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This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you create an inappropriate page, you will be blocked from editing. You just keep posting the same articles and expecting the result to be different. Please stop. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Once again, you're posting an article on a nonnotable company; the sources you've referenced are either PR releases or discuss subjects other than the company itself. Furthermore, from your pattern of edits, I'm guessing that you're a PR firm that's paid to place articles on Wikipedia about your clients.  Is this correct?  NawlinWiki (talk) 16:25, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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First off, yes you're still my adoptee. With any article you create, I'd suggest you put the name like this, "User:Freshmenz/article name", until you can build it up. Honestly, I've never heard of any of those things (CigarFox.com, JR Cigars or Ice Records) but it appears they all promote somewhat. As long as they stay within WP:SOAP, I really don't see a problem with any of them, I don't really get into this area of policy too much though so I can't help much more than this on this particular subject. As for NawlinWiki working for the City of New Orleans or Mayor Nagin, despite living in New Orleans myself, I haven't met NawlinWiki in real life so I wouldn't know whether or not he works for either of the two. I hope this helps and Cheers!  Burner 0718  Wutsapnin? 21:49, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

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