User talk:Frickeg/Archive 2

Party names
Sorry - just realised that I forgot to respond to your message the other day.

I generally extend the names for two reasons: firstly, unless they're extended, they tend to make the table look really squashed, and I find it pretty ugly. Secondly, "Labor" is colloquial, and "ALP" is confusing for international readers; I remember reading an article on one of the international elections the other day and having the bejesus confused out of me by the acronyms. Rebecca (talk) 09:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Marsupial Lion
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2PPs
Hey - can you confirm per this that there were only 3 electorates that weren't ALP v coalition? Major parties v independents etc? Timeshift (talk) 11:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * So that would be a yes? Cool :-) Timeshift (talk) 01:53, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello Frickeg!
I just wanted to say, congratulations! I have seen your name in many newpages created, and all the articles are good and well written. You are a good worker, and i just wanted to congratulate you on that.

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Tables
Could you please make the adjustments required here? The held column worked when i didn't end the House one but now it doesn't, and LibNat doesnt work in the Senate table like it does in the House. Can you please help? Timeshift (talk) 03:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Reid/Cook
Thanks for the edit before - i'd always thought the FTP/ASP was a one man band! Timeshift (talk) 02:31, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Two blunders!
A second in the same article - whatever shall we do with you! Timeshift (talk) 03:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Revenue Tariff Party and others
Hey - would you be so kind as to add the website you obtained the info from as a single citation for the articles? I've noticed some of them are getting noref tags put on them. Timeshift (talk) 06:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Left a message for him. There will always be objectors, AfD will do just fine. Timeshift (talk) 06:47, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

It was originally Liberal Reform Group which prompted me to leave you a message on this one, i'm not sure how many you've done, perhaps go through the ones you've created via defunct parties and make sure they all have just a single reference for the 1-2 sentence stubs that they are. I'm just so not fond of those ugly tags that discredit the encyclopedia! Timeshift (talk) 07:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 07:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Minor Parties
My understanding is the PP was not formed by Richardson but rather was set up as a party (originally the "Workers Party") to contest the Greenough by-election on 1 November 1975, where they polled almost 13% of the vote, and then renamed themselves the PP and ran in a heap of seats (including Greenough, where they got 16.81% in the 19 February 1977 state election.) Their platform, policy and constitution is in our State Library, they seemed to be an odd mix of libertarian and economic conservative, with some random other policies thrown in. Orderinchaos 04:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) I'll be happier when I can get my target articles done and FA'd - among them, several WA elections, a former opposition leader from the 1970s and the state branch of the Nationals. Orderinchaos 09:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Two points. At One Parliament for Australia, the ref doesn't work - i've been there myself, added a whole bunch of refs thinking they would work for others cause they worked for me, but unfortunately it doesn't work. I'd suggest finding another ref if you can't cite it directly, as it's different from doing a simple election result search (or is that what you did?). Second, what did the party stand for? Abolition of the states? Timeshift (talk) 06:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * You could always email the webmaster/guy that runs it - I did it once, he's pleasant. Timeshift (talk) 06:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Advise him of the other name and to clarify which it is, then just add the election link homepage and unlinked advise where to find the name is what i'd do. Timeshift (talk) 07:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Members retiring
Not that it bothers me all that much, but i'm only reverting the MP in the infobox and not the members year bit. The reason is although technically he is still present, we also know that he will be gone in 2008. Timeshift (talk) 06:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnaby Joyce
Hi, I've reverted your revert on Barnaby Joyce. Joyce is now an LNP Senator, he is listed as such on the LNP's website, and he was quoted on July 31 as saying "I am an LNP senator for Queensland and that is it". I really should have added sources to the page the first time I made the change, and I apologise for not doing so. I have added them now, however.

I agree that in the case of Senators that have not made a move either way or have distanced themselves from the new party (like Sue Boyce) we should bide our time and see what happens. But as Barnaby has "jumped in" so to speak, I don't think it's unreasonable to describe him as LNP as well as National.

Happy to discuss this further on the article talkpage, if you wish. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:34, 3 August 2008 (UTC).


 * That sounds fair, I've no objection to him being listed as "Nationals/LNP" or similar until the situation is further clarified. Given the size of the new party versus the Nationals rump, I don't expect that this will take too long.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:50, 3 August 2008 (UTC).


 * I don't know, as recently as last week, The Oz described him as "(holding) the second spot on the Queensland LNP Senate ticket." This article from the CM describes him as "maverick LNP senator Barnaby Joyce".  The LNP site claims him as one of their own too.  I think the current situation, where he's referred to as a Nationals senator who is a member of the LNP is probably still the best way to go.  I had thought this would get sorted out fairly quickly, but I guess we'll probably have to wait until the next election, after which I imagine we'll get a similar sort of situation as we currently have with Nigel Scullion.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 01:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC).


 * Well, if it's any consolation, with all the infighting of late, an election can't be too far away, and unless they pull of an against-the-odds victory, I don't anticipate that the party will last too much longer after that. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:30, 26 January 2009 (UTC).

Les or Leslie Haylen
Noting that Leslie Haylen was generally known as "Les" (per the sources in the article), and that WP:NAME advocates using the most common name for an individual, would you mind if I moved the Leslie Haylen page to Les Haylen and fixed the various mentions in other articles?

In addition I've a question about Haylen's birthplace, which I've posted here. Its always the minor mysteries that nag at you, and I've become determined to find the answer. Can you shed any light on it? Euryalus (talk) 05:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries, and welcome back. I've moved the article as discussed. The birthplace, alas, will remain one of life's mysteries. Euryalus (talk) 05:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Thomas Marwick
Hi Frickeg, as far as I can tell there isn't, and hasn't been a place in WA called Brooktown. There is a Brookton (which is not all that far from York) however, so I wonder if that is what is meant? I could be completely wrong. Moondyne 13:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Subpages
Heya, just to save time, would you like all subpages in your userspace deleted? If so, I'll just churn through 'em, rather than you having to manually tag them all. :) --Elonka 22:33, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, just checking. :) --Elonka 22:36, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Whoa!
Candidates of the Australian federal election, 1901 - nice one! Wikipedia really is growing in to the comprehensive resource for politics isn't it? Timeshift (talk) 01:40, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


 * What he said. Was just coming here to congratulate you on the job you did with List of Australian federal by-elections - looks a whole better, and a whole lot more informative. Your efforts with the federal MPs and Senators have been inspiring me to have a go at doing with the states, too. Rebecca (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not surprised - you've been going through them at such a rate that even reading and watchlisting them all takes a fair while! Rebecca (talk)

Do you plan to add the members link as well as candidates link to the election pages? Just seems a bit incomplete with only candidates... Timeshift (talk) 04:55, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

William Ferris
from User talk:66.152.166.101

Hi there. William Ferris (politician) was deleted not because it was not notable, but because it was a manifestly unhelpful substub - the entire contents of the article were, "William Ferris was an Australian politician, elected to the New South Wales Legislative Assembly." And that was it. Rebecca deleted a whole heap of these substubs a while ago, but they're still all notable enough for an article. WP:POLITICIAN states that people are notable if "they have held international, national or first-level sub-national political office, including members of a legislature and judges". Ferris held "first level sub-national" (i.e. state) political office. Hope this clears that up. If you have any questions let me know on my talk page. Thanks, Frickeg (talk) 01:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for explaining - Rebecca should have done that, especially as her User talk:Rebecca page can't be used by anonymous editors; instead she simply marked her unexplained revert "m".


 * It's not obvious when you look at the Electoral district of Parramatta page - for example the "Parramatta, one member (1880—1920)" section has one blue link, two red links, and two non-linked, plus William Ferris.


 * At the top of the "Additional criteria" section, directly above the WP:POLITICIAN criteria you've quoted, is the line: "Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included." Before I made my original edit, I looked for any obvious evidence that the article was likely to be re-created and didn't find anything. 66.152.166.101 (talk) 04:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

William Maughan
hi -- am confused as to why my fossicky factoids about William JR Maughan (his father, spouse, no. of children) were removed? My source for his father's career is the Register of the Leeds Grammer School (1820-1896) and the other info comes from I am a child of one of his sons. I thought that it would help 'de-stub' the page but sorry if the small additions were considered irrelevant. 4.251.121.133 (talk) 22:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Single years
I changed the link, because it really does look a typo - as if it's just a badly coded template or such. Most cases of this that I've seen (in the state articles generally) already use just the single year, and in my opinion the articles look better for it. Rebecca (talk) 08:00, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Fremantle
Although I maintain Silverhorse's re-reversion was erroneous, I nevertheless wrote a hasty (pretty much results-only) article at Fremantle by-election, 1945 so as to un-redlink it. All the red linked are actually notable, although all for reasons other than their running here. If you wish to add to it, feel free (the article Timeshift dug up which is on WT:AUSPOL may be useful here). Orderinchaos 14:48, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Members lists
Thanks and thanks for your work too.--Grahame (talk) 00:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

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George Keegan
Why did you change the links to George Keenan to "Ernest Keenan" in the NSW parliament lists? Every source I've found refers to him actually being known as George. Rebecca (talk) 02:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah, no worries. Be a bit careful with these NSW pages - there's quite a few left over from that idiot a couple of years ago that were created at the wrong names. If there's a clash with the MP lists, the MP lists are generally the right ones. Rebecca (talk) 04:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Reprints
if you want reprints, e-mail me, I have pretty much everything related to parrot phylogeny. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 05:21, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * PS, I am currently coding all the trees so I can make a consensus phylogeny based on that. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 05:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Election infobox coding?
Hey there, do you know how to add new parties to the election infoboxes? I added a colour and shortname for SA Greens, but it didn't seem to work, I also want to do one for Nationals SA, for use at Frome by-election, 2009. Any ideas? Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 01:26, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Timeshift (talk) 01:48, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Dems
Hi, while on notes about the Australian Democrats, you might like to check out Note 5 which appears wrongly to identify Richard Jones as a former senator. (Or am I just reading it wrongly?) Cheers Bjenks (talk) 03:36, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Boylan
I'd lean toward no, but maybe he's noteable for being a major party candidate to declare himself the winner, only to lose, haha. I wonder how many times that's happened before? Timeshift (talk) 02:23, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Not sure. Let's wait until Thursday's declaration. A recount has been refused, though the court of disputed returns is still an option. And yes, nowhere in Australia will you find a pack of arseclowns so abundant as in the SA Liberals. They've been a joke ever since Steele Hall quit as leader. Timeshift (talk) 03:02, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Electoral District of Ryde
I would be more than happy for someone to take over at this point. I am not very good at all this Wikipedia stuff and the changes I made took me quite some time to work out what I was doing. I work for the new member for Ryde and was looking to update both his page and the Electoral District for Ryde page. Any suggestions you have would be welcome. Jono (talk) 11:55, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

2003 NSW candidates
Just a heads up - there's an error on this page. Jim Anderson, the member for Londonderry, didn't retire at the election - he recontested and died on election day, and there was a later supplementary election which elected Allan Shearan. Can you fix this up? I'm bad with tables. Rebecca (talk) 09:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Col Easton (ONN)
 * Jim Anderson (ALP)
 * Kurt Gelling (AAF)
 * Allan Quinn (GNS)
 * Sonia Bennett (SOS)
 * Kevin Conolly (LP)
 * Jim Cassidy (AD)
 * John Phillips (CDP)
 * - NSW Election 2003 - How You Voted, Daily Telegraph, 24 March 2003

Thankfully my university hasn't processed my deferral yet, so I was still able to jump on Factiva and dig it up.. Rebecca (talk) 01:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Ivor F
Bizarre, and thanks for picking that up. I remember him running as Ivor F, and faintly recall a debate on the ABC about whetehr someone using a single letter as a surname was sufficiently identified to be a candidate. I didn't realise he had also used other variants such as F Ivor. Should have checked but thought it was effectively a typo on the 2003 page. That will teach me to always check the sources, even for what appear to be obvious points. Euryalus (talk) 03:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)


 * By the way, your article on Henry Turner (Australian politician) scored a brief mention in The Australian. Euryalus (talk) 19:56, 17 February 2009 (UTC)