User talk:Frickeg/Archive 3

Alex Douglas
Hello, thanks for your comment. Which links were you referring to? I wasn't aware of any broken ones and thanks for fixing them. Blaze42 (talk) 22:38, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for that, it does sounds like a useful feature. I'll be sure to use it in the future. ;) Blaze42 (talk) 18:35, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Electoral results for the Division of Cunningham
The '69 primary vote results are 10% less than 100%... Timeshift (talk) 00:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Can you check your results at Division of Wide Bay? Timeshift (talk) 11:39, 1 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Nats +20%? Timeshift (talk) 22:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Re Dean Wells (politician)
Psephos is a great resource, but its entirely the work of one man, so there's bound to be some mistakes. I can't find the Parliamentary Handbook you refer to. Source? Digestible (talk) 12:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link. I just had a look at Psephos Queensland page . It has Deane for 1992 and 1995, and Dean for every election thereafter. Is it possible he changed his name between 1995 and 1998? Digestible (talk) 12:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

NT updates
Thanks for doing these - these articles got left in a bit of a mess after the NT election and I'd never got around to going back to them. Rebecca (talk) 07:28, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's a pain with the NT MPs - and one that probably won't be fixed soon. Victoria already has them by the way: they're in both the parliamentary handbook and re-member for the past MPs. WA has the same problem for now, but there's an excellent-sounding (and up to date to 2007) book by David Black and Philip Pendal just out which should remove some of that problem (though not for the class of 2008). Rebecca (talk) 06:52, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I got Terry Mills's date of birth from "Who's Who Australia 2007". Orderinchaos 10:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Thought I'd take your example and knock over some of these state bios - Jaala Pulford and Gayle Tierney done for now. I notice it's just Vic, Qld and WA left with sitting members without articles now; it'd be good to get rid of those. Rebecca (talk) 11:08, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Independent to Independent
Re Port Macquarie, how do you see Dubbo state by-election, 2004? Funnily enough I actually had this as a "hold" but changed it to a "gain" on account of the Port Macquarie precedent. Digestible (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm happy to go with hold. But how could McGrane have supported Fardell? He was dead. Digestible (talk) 00:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Isn't this a bit of WP:OR? Where else does one classify support of another independent as a hold rather than a gain? Timeshift (talk) 06:57, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

SA electorate pages
Thank you so much for doing this! Timeshift (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok - thankyou now! Timeshift (talk) 03:29, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Source for recent death
I was checking articles of those who were recently added to Category:2009 deaths, making sure the deaths were sourced to a reference, and I came across William Burns (Australian politician), which you updated recently. I had a look, but was unable to find any news article confirming this. Would you be able to provide a source for the update you made to that article? Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 00:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Should have checked your contribs or followed the trail to that other page. Thanks for the source. They stood in his memory. How nice. Carcharoth (talk) 00:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Same problem with obscure sportsmen. See Bob Leverenz. Carcharoth (talk) 00:43, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Browne Relationship
I am also Peter Browne's Grandson. I do not really have any sources to cite except that I know he is definiatly family.

WA candidate lists
I remember a discussion about those - did those ever get fixed up? (I want to do some earlier ones and want to make sure I am using the right model :)) Orderinchaos 11:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah well, I went and did Candidates of the Western Australian state election, 1971 - just more as a test to see what is possible and get one model working. I haven't yet done the whole LC table as I have to get the source material. LC isn't so problematic - one only has to do 1989-2008 elections on the proportional model, and 1965-1986 on the multi-member preferential model. Prior to 1965, I'm not sure what we do as they had biennial elections for the LC that had nothing to do with the LA. Orderinchaos 01:36, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The LC isn't so much weird as chronically unfinished, hence the weird appearance. I'll fix it when I get the data :) And thanks re the other stuff, I've never done these before so bit of a challenge. Orderinchaos 02:58, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Progressives
I noticed that the articles were a bit vague about this, but I'm afraid I don't have much light to shed. I was going off the article on Bruxner which says that a) they split in 1921 over whether to join the Fuller government, calling themselves the "True Blues", and that they renamed themselves the Country Party in 1925 - this comes from the ADB article on him. Checking Drummond's ADB article, I see that he was in the same boat as Bruxner; I just updated the article accordingly. I have no idea what happened to the rest of that split, however. Rebecca (talk) 03:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * And since you mention it, it might be an idea if we do a run-through of these electorate articles at some point - prior to that rewrite, it said the last NSW election was in 2003, and that Northern Tablelands was named after John Oxley! Rebecca (talk) 03:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Turns out we're in luck on the Progressives issue. The Nationals, the book about the Progressives, Country and National parties in NSW, is in Google Books - and is mostly available there too.

This explains why they're still listed as Progressives in 1925. As far as I can see, there must've been two factions of Progressives sitting separately in parliament (one in coalition with the government, one sitting on the crossbenches but voting to support the government), and that ran essentially as separate parties under the Progressive label in 1925 - seems as if the party council didn't endorse either faction. Bruxner's side then became the Country Party after the election; the others appear to have merged into the Nationalists. The seven dissidents on Bruxner's side were Bruxner, Hugh Main, Richard Price, Drummond, Matt Kilpatrick, Tom Rutledge and Ernest Buttenshaw.

I'm not surprised there's a few issues around the listing of early members. I think all of them preceded the creation of Antony Green's NSW election site, and the Parliamentary Record is reasonable but not stellar on the issue of party affiliation (if someone changed parties during their careers it doesn't necessarily mention where and when, and it's a bit weak on the early parties). We also didn't have many sources at all on the early parties, which is where you've got people assuming the Commonwealth Liberal Party was active at state level. Now that we have the advantage of Green's great records, it's very worth double-checking these: especially the affiliations for every seat prior to the development of the Nationalist-Labor party system. Rebecca (talk) 04:28, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * No worries! It's quite an interesting read, and would be a great source if you ever felt like rewriting Progressive Party (1920)...*hint*! Rebecca (talk) 05:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It might be worth going through the NLA newspaper archives on this: I've just come across newspaper articles from 1923 referring to Bruxner as "the leader of the Progressives", which confuses the whole bloody thing. Rebecca (talk) 06:15, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * He was the leader - of the dissidents! My understanding was that the official leader remained the original leader... Rebecca (talk) 14:03, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, all of the above seems to be not quite right. These 1922 sources seem to refer to Bruxner as having basically taken over the Progressive Party by the 1922 election, running only in rural seats at that point, and seem to universally (at least so far) refer to the Wearne wing of the Progressives and the Nationalists combined as the "Coalitionists". Rebecca (talk) 13:18, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

I finally sorted the damn thing. Nationalists and the non-Bruxner Progressives ran in 1922 as "Coalitionists"; Green refers to the lot of them as Nationalists in his page on the 1922 election results. The Progressive Party from thereon out appears to have been just Bruxner's supporters. Now, to write the article explaining this... Rebecca (talk) 18:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for picking up the McClelland error - I can't believe I made that one! Rebecca (talk) 14:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

As for Allison, he might be right, but I'd just like to see a source for it. Her article doesn't mention having lived in Sydney, and it mentions her being on a suburban Melbourne council from 1992; she was in the right wing of the Democrats, and it just seems a bit odd that she'd be running for a different party in a different state. Rebecca (talk) 04:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Might be a good idea. Adam's site is great, but it's not perfect; when I was using the site as a regular source, I picked up (and pointed out) at least a few errors. Rebecca (talk) 02:46, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

By-elections
Why should Greens come under other, and a gray colour? Timeshift (talk) 05:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Links
Already did. I have your drafts page watchlisted, and I always give them a go over - I'm just a pedant :P Rebecca (talk) 05:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Fowler
Was Fower still Lang Labor at the end of her career? I thought Lang Labor was dead by 1950. Rebecca (talk) 07:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Ah, okay. So were they Lang-aligned independents then? I'm just a bit finicky about these details; I don't like that we have one Lang Labor entry for what was actually about three different parties, and pretend they were one and the same. Rebecca (talk) 08:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I think that would be a great idea. Any chance you'd be willing to put it together? Rebecca (talk) 02:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure it was still a party at that point. Antony Green's NSW results site refers to her as only "Lang Labor", while noting that other sources label her as "Independent Labor". This would suggest to me that the remnants of the Langites were merely sitting as Lang-aligned independents. Mightn't hurt to ask him if we could get in touch though - he usually pops up around the traps online from time to time. Rebecca (talk) 03:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Uh oh. Just checked the results from 1941, when our article says she was elected, and not only does it list here there as an independent too (?) it also says she lost the election! Rebecca (talk) 03:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Erk. The only NLA newspapers hit I can find from the period is this article, which merely refers to her as "Lang Labour". Perhaps that's all they were known by at that point? Rebecca (talk) 03:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good to me. Rebecca (talk) 03:56, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * (reply from my talk page) Amazing this article didn't exist earlier, and well done Frickeg for creating it. I think I have a source at home that states that Fowler called herself Lang Labor right up until her defeat (and long after Lang himself had departed parliamentary politics). I also think there was a Lang Labor State MP for Bankstown until the mid-1940's, but would have to check. As a piece of original research, there are certainly still Langites in Bankstown and Auburn who write letters praising him to the local papers. Will check when I have an idle half hour, but good luck with the article, looks good so far.


 * By the way, who was this Boyd Sinclair man? I'll hunt through the Hansard, see if I can find out. Euryalus (talk) 03:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Possibly a statement of the obvious by now, but this calls Fowler "Independent Labor" for the failed 1941 election bid, then "Lang Labor" for the following three elections including her defeat in 1950.


 * I've also added a few more details to the article. Some are from council local history projects which aren't always flawless as references but they're all there is, and the referenced details are uncontroversial. A glaring gap in the article is her MBE which I haven't included because I can't give it context such as when or for what it was awarded. Euryalus (talk) 04:31, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * And to add a further mild complication, Michael Easson's biography of McKell says Lang and Fowler referred to themselves as Australian Labor Party MP's, not Lang Labor. The term Lang Labor was adopted by others to differentiate the two groups, but wasn't used by the actual representatives of it. Doesn't make much difference for our purposes as we can legitimately use the most commonly accepted name, but explains some of the variations of the party name in the sources. Euryalus (talk) 09:50, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. By the way, I wonder what inspired this industrial dispute between Fowler and air raid wardens? I haven't included it in the article as I can't determine why it happened so it would just be indiscriminate information. Euryalus (talk) 01:55, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Trainer
Just looking at your most recent draft, any idea if the John Trainer running as an independent in Hanson was the same one who was member for Walsh until 1993? I have no idea where Walsh was, and can't find a source quickly, but it'd seem pretty likely. Rebecca (talk) 05:41, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Tamworth
Do you know if we ever found a way to fit multi-member and single-member electorates in the same table? Looks a little bit messy as is. Rebecca (talk) 03:48, 18 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I figured as much - the multi-members do look a lot clearer that way. I might see if I can ask around on IRC tonight and see if anyone's got the skills to make something work. Rebecca (talk) 03:54, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Linking councillors
At least one local councillor gets to be linked!. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 06:26, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Dashes
Hi, thanks for your edits. For future references, year ranges use en dashes, not em dashes, so 1879&mdash;1978 should be 1879–1978 (see the edit screen for the code difference). See WP:DASH for more information. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you could compile a category / provide a link of a group of these articles, I could find someone with WP:AWB to do some work on it. Regards, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Should be fine. Thanks for your help, Dabomb87 (talk) 03:56, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Frickeg/Parties represented in the House
I'd probably be inclined to include Thomas Drake-Brockman, representing the National Alliance (Australia), for minor parties in the Senate. I confess though, that I don't know enough about the National Alliance and Brockman's participation in it, to establish the extent to which it was a separate party from the Country Party. Mrodowicz (talk) 15:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Woollard
I'm not sure I agree with listing her as liberals for forests prior to 2005. She ran as an independent Liberal in 2001 as well, because liberals for forests was not at the time a registered party. I don't know if she ever technically sat in parliament as a liberals for forests MP. Rebecca (talk) 05:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

1980 candidates
You've got the same independent candidate listed for both ACT seats... Rebecca (talk) 17:03, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * While I'm being pedantic, don't suppose you know if the Rodney Madgwick who ran in Barton is the same person as the Federal Court judge? Wouldn't surprise me, but I can't find a source. Rebecca (talk) 17:07, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

NLA images
Use PD-Australia-CC tag, if the image is older than 50 years it should be ok. Timeshift (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There certainly are. My most recent was Michael Considine. Solidarity! ;P Timeshift (talk) 08:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Regarding these sorts of images, i'd suggest to crop them. Timeshift (talk) 11:58, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Cool :) Timeshift (talk) 12:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Pembroke state election, 2009
Care to whip up a quick results table? ;) Timeshift (talk) 00:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yay! Timeshift (talk) 01:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you calculate the updated percentage yourself or are they available online? The results page has the old results, the preference distribution has the updated number of votes but not percentage. Timeshift (talk) 06:25, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Should be fine. Timeshift (talk) 06:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the hard work
My watchlist has been pinging me with evidence of your work for weeks, especially over the last 24 hours or so. A review of your recent contributions demonstrates the effort you're putting in to improve the dustier Aust. politics biographies. Thought I'd stop by to let you know it's appreciated. Euryalus (talk) 05:14, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Henry Arthur Hewson - seat of McMillan 1972-1975
I've uploaded an image of the the Hewon how to vote card and of a local newspaper article, both referring to Hewson as "Arthur". Being wiki-inexperienced, I hope the tags on the images are correct and don't cause the images to be deleted as non-public-domain or similar ... your experienced assistance welcomed! :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Idge62 (talk • contribs) 02:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Divison of Wright
Well, wikipedia states that all articles about anticipated events must be verifiable, and the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred. I really do believe the article meets this critera. 1. Everything in is it verifiable with creditable sources. 2. If the electorate was officially made, a wiki article on it would certainly have been published. This meets teh critera of the subject matter must be of sufficiently wide interest that it would merit an article if the event had already occurred 3. The people who live in the proposed electorate and many political pundits would have have an interest in the proposed electorate 4. Also, the electorate is offically and formally proposed by the AEC. Its not like the electorate is based on rumor or speculation

Therefore, I really do oppose deleting the article. --Supun47 (talk) 09:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Also, I just had a look and there are many wiki articles based on formal proposals. A good example are the many pages on proposed buildings and highways- Proposed tall buildings and structures

--Supun47 (talk) 09:33, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Image uploading
Good to see someone else resourcing a lot of images! Did you check out Adam Carr's electoral maps pages? 150 divisions is a lot of uploads though... Timeshift (talk) 14:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Australian Greens colours
Hi there, I noticed you undid the colour changes I made to the Australian Greens colours

I don't know where the colour that has been reverted to comes from, but it isn't used by any state party as far as I know.

The logo's of The Australian Greens, Victoria, Tasmania, South Australia and Queensland all use Pantone 375. Because of this much of their materials also carry this exact colour due to the nature of two colour printing.

See "Greens Logos" for confirmation of this pantone colour.

The Greens NSW currently use Pantone 340 which is a darker more classic green colour. WA, NT and the ACT use a similar classic green.

None of these colours are anything like the green you have reverted to, I think unless you can provide some sort of reference that states why the colour you prefer is more correct then it should be changed back to the HEX equivalent of Pantone 375. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sambauers (talk • contribs) 03:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * There's no wikipedia rule stating the exact colour of a party should be used. I think the former colour is better. Timeshift (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm personally not a fan of the actual colour either, but I think in context of the info box on the article page, the two greens clash quite horribly. Sambauers (talk) 04:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The colour you changed it to has absolutely no association with the Greens in any media, no matter what they say - check out Antony Green, for instance. In this instance clarity is the key. I notice on the link you gave, too, the Greens logo up the top is a completely different colour. In any case that colour's been in use for a while, and you're proposing a big change. Changing it would undoubtedly need community consensus at WP:AUP. Frickeg (talk) 06:27, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I admit that I hadn't thought about common colours used in psephology and the impact it might have on the clarity of election result tables. I was primarily thinking of how it looked in the infoboxes that I was editing the other day. Guess I'll have to live with the "it hurts my eyes" green. Sambauers (talk) 07:58, 26 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you need a checkup at your local optometrist :) Timeshift (talk) 08:17, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

By-elections
I must be a bit slow today... can we fix what? And thanks. And just a quick note too, please make sure when you're adding non-free images to pages that you add another rationale to the image's page (ie Snedden) as bots regularly look for images that are on pages that don't have a rationale for them. I've added a third rationale for Snedden. Timeshift (talk) 07:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

And why don't we say Ind Lib? Orderinchaos did it for some SA by-elections... Timeshift (talk) 07:14, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * For the record, I've only used Ind Lib when official sources do. With SA in particular they appear a fair bit in the SEO/ECSA's tables. Same in WA, although only in a historic sense now as it's no longer permitted (not sure why). Orderinchaos 13:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Then perhaps we need a template, or at a minimum, a footnote. Timeshift (talk) 07:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry I have been going overboard with internal links thanks for reminding me Dr. Szląchski (talk) 01:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Bruce by-election/Mulholland
The modern DLP formed in 1984, while the historical DLP ended in 1978, according to wikipedia. The AEC lists Mulholland in 1983 as DLP. Do you think i'm still correct to change the by-election link to modern DLP? Timeshift (talk) 04:25, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Youngest politician
I'd never heard of Corboy, and had heard the "fact" of Jones being the youngest ever repeated a few times, including by Andrew Peacock. Nice pick up. --Roisterer (talk) 06:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Re: Gerick
Cheers. I couldn't find Gerick's place of death either. Have now done Peter Cook too. Although there you'll notice an inconsistency between the infobox and the top paragraph. How do you deal with backdated terms? Digestible (talk) 02:06, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Rewrite of Rock hyrax
I see you've made several contributions in the past to the page Rock hyrax. I've pretty much rewritten the page, putting things on a much more encyclopedic basis, and rationalising a lot of stuff that was scattered around the article. I'll leave it in my sandbox User:Arikk/Sandbox/Rock_Hyrax for a couple of days before replacing the existing page (although I think it's already much better), but if anyone wants to comment, please do so on my talk page. Arikk (talk) 14:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Electoral results for the Division of Melbourne Ports
I see two big glaring errors for 1901 and 1910... I do come across stuff like this in these seat result to 1901 pages, I really should fix it or let you know rather than turn a blind eye. Good work though! Timeshift (talk) 06:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Andrew Lacey image
Long have I been trying to find one... any suggestions? Timeshift (talk) 22:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

If they're dead you can use their image as a free replaceable one is no longer possible to obtain. Colleen Hartland's image, as far as I can see, is not valid, as the person is alive, and the photo was taken in the last 50 years and is under copyright. Timeshift (talk) 22:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Titles in member lists
Hi, thank you for asking to discuss this matter with me. It may seem impracticle although, being knighted is one of the most prestiegous awards that can be bestowed upon someone because of their service and dedication to a certain cause. Such as Sir Earle Page, when we look at these articles we are looking at the past, not the present, at it is important for people who visit these pages for research, such as the Prime Minister of Australia article, to acknowledge that person in the green, red or blue is not a person who became Prime Minister but was, or has been rewarded for achieving such an honour an to have been bestowed with something so prestiegous because of their contributions. Also, having the title Sir affixed to the persons name is honour there acheivement and to grant them with respect, not to ignore their status amongst us. We call Prime Ministers who have left office Mr Prime Minister, even though they are not in office. We neglect to acknowledge that William McMahon is acctually Sir McMahon, in any article other that his own. Looking forward to further conversation : ). Watchover (talk) 12.04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

David Hodgett - A Registrar?
You created the article on David Hodgett, and told us he had been a registrar. That link for "registrar" takes us to a disambig page, and doesn't really help me find out what he did. I'm genuinely curious. Can you elaborate please? HiLo48 (talk) 08:50, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. Maybe I'll just ask him next time I meet him. HiLo48 (talk) 23:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Uncivil
Thank you for being compelled in pointing out I made a typo on my talk page. I will fix it when time is appropriate Regards, Watchover (talk) 13:01, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanking you for making a template for the Australian Sex Party. I am very much appreciative. Thanks, Watchover (talk) 03:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Australian federal abolished divisions
Template:Australian federal abolished divisions has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 01:13, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Duncan Kerr deceased hey?
*giggle* Timeshift (talk) 01:19, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

James Whiteside McCay
Thanks for your edits. I hope to have this one finished in the next day or so. It has proved to be a lot more work than I first thought. It'll probably need a thorough copy edit, if you're up to it.

Have a happy birthday! Hawkeye7 (talk) 09:01, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Sex Party
Howdy, do you know how to fix the ASP colour for the Higgins by-election result table? Timeshift (talk) 11:09, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! Timeshift (talk) 03:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Early federal pendulums
Well done, good work! I can't wait to see 1910 :D Timeshift (talk) 07:14, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Oooooh, what a sexy looking pendulum! :) Well done generally. I don't know how you find the drive and enthusiasm to do all 150 division results (I bet you're looking forward to the upcoming federal election and it's subsequent results LOL), all historical federal MPs with pictures if available, and the countless rest. Well done. If someone pulled a negative about your contributions out of me with pliers though, one small tiny thing I would take issue with is errors I just happen to come across rather freely as I look closely at pages like historical results for divisions. Don't take this the wrong way as you've done such a great job... just that it seems I don't need to read far to find a number error in a results table, which obviously doesn't help any of us in making Wikipedia the definitive accurate Australian politics resource that it's become, in many areas/a large part thanks to you. Ignore me if you want though, just my 2c :) Again, keep up the good work. Timeshift (talk) 00:17, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries! How is it though that you have the motivation for such obscure topics like some one-term historical MP, or division results for a single seat going back x amount of years/decades? I kinda lost the motivation once i'd got all the federal/SA state major party leaders, and elections, out of the way. Australian politics on wikipedia was so archaic just a couple of short years ago! Collaboration is king :) Timeshift (talk) 00:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It's great to see someone is that dedicated to the project... it certainly needed it! And I wasn't trying to impugn one-term MPs, having an article for every single federal MP (and pic when possible) is certainly an asset in itself! And yes, Maranoa, ah the wonders of demographic change :) Kinda like in my home state where Grey was solid Labor and is now solid Liberal. It was bound to happen as the working class moved closer and closer to the blossoming capital cities... Timeshift (talk) 01:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Queensland Party (1932)
Do you know anything about this party? They got 1.68% in the 1932 state election. Orderinchaos 09:50, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

By-election drive
You in? :D Timeshift (talk) 10:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

NSW Members
I didn't realize it would be quite so hard. I guess that the lack of pay meant that it was very easy to resign and cause a by-election Porturology (talk) 04:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I hope to slowly progressPorturology (talk) 02:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Candidate pages
Hi! I want to create Candidates of the South Australian state election, 2010 based on the table here using info from here, i'm wondering how you tend to go about tackling these massive tables? Is it literally a game of patience and backspacing each name from each box and starting over? Or is there a faster way to start with a fresh table without starting the table from scratch? Timeshift (talk) 04:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Now I wonder where I can find upper house candidates... Timeshift (talk) 01:06, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Do you know how to fix the currently awkward spacing in the Leg Co table at Candidates of the South Australian state election, 2010? Timeshift (talk) 02:07, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * There's too much space to the left of the names and almost zero space on the right of the names... Timeshift (talk) 02:16, 16 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh ok... pity I can't fix it :\ Timeshift (talk) 02:40, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I'm not familiar at all with Tas MPs, but that aside, looks good! Timeshift (talk) 23:30, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Ahh, my mistake then! And not sure about Brokenshire, the FFP site is a bit unclear and very lacking in information. He may very well be 1 and Randall 2... Timeshift (talk) 03:42, 17 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Just in case it wasn't clear, these are in fact the same bloke. I think he may have rejoined the Liberal Party for a while in between his two fundie experiments, though. Rebecca (talk) 05:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

2001 fed election
The No GST Party received more than 40 percent of the Australia-wide vote? WHOA! ;) Timeshift (talk) 01:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Don't take this the wrong way, but did you proofread it? Timeshift (talk) 02:31, 26 January 2010 (UTC)