User talk:Fridayhockey12

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December 2019
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Sanctioning in junior hockey
There is far more in the section in Junior ice hockey. It is not about insurance, it is about governing bodies, of which, both the GMHL and USPHL are "self sanctioned". In other words, they provide their own oversight and can make whatever claims they want, including providing their insurance. (Which, by the way, all the leagues listed have insurance, the USA Hockey leagues, the Hockey Canada leagues, the AAU leagues, and the USPHL. The GMHL is not unique for that feature.) They are also not "Tier II" as there is no other leagues that the GMHL has oversight over to make such claims (and I would like to see verifiable sources for such a claim.) Based on your copy-n-pasting for the league website, perhaps a quick read-over of Wikipedia's guidelines on handling conflicts of interests would be helpful. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 23:45, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Per your edit summary Again, the definition of sanction is in association to insurance. Please read the definition of Sanction before editing. https://gmhl.net/page/sanction That link is the GMHL's definition of sanctioning. The actual definition of sanction: "give official permission or approval for". In this case, they are not sanctioned (approved) by the most commonly known junior hockey governing body in Canada, which is Hockey Canada, and it is well documented. The fact they have their own insurance, which may or may not be the same as used by Hockey Canada, is not sanctioning. The GMHL provides insurance at events the GMHL approves of (the approval is the definition of sanctioning, not the insurance), hence, they self sanction. If you wish to further discuss this go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive74 where this can be discussed in a more widely viewed discussion. Thank you, Yosemiter (talk) 22:07, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

3 reverts, take it to talk pages
Your recent editing history at Greater Metro Junior A Hockey League shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Yes Fridayhockey12, you need to keep it at talk pages because edit wars are no good. Also, if the person you are arguing with has sources, it's best to leave it to talk pages and leave the GMHL page as it is. Unless stated by the league itself or Hockey Canada that it is sanctioned, then there are no sources leading to it being sanctioned. Thanks. ThatOhioGuy (talk) 20:27, 10 December 2019

FYI, I have started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey/Archive74 if you would like to discuss this with others in order to reach a consensus. Yosemiter (talk) 21:59, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

February 2020
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Greater Metro Junior A Hockey League; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

Per your statements [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greater_Metro_Junior_A_Hockey_League&diff=prev&oldid=938994186 The league is a Tier II Junior A classification, as per official website. Just because a competing organization claims that they are not, does not mean anything.] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Greater_Metro_Junior_A_Hockey_League&diff=prev&oldid=938994610 The league is sanctioned as per official website. With reasoning listed, why not list that this league is "Not apart of NHL, Not apart of OHL, Not Apart of SHL." The Ontario Hockey League is an independat league not apart of Hockey Canada, why not list this information on their wikipedia page. This statement is wrong and not needed.] Hopefully you are beginning to understand, but most likely you are headed towards a block for not responding to any of our comments here. If you do not try to discuss, you risk a block for not listening or not collaborating with others. Yosemiter (talk) 18:18, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) The GMHL website is primary, biased, and unreliable. What they choose to claim is not backed up by independent sources as evidenced by the great many sources in the article and other news sources. It is literally one of the main subjects discussed in the first few results when you Google "outlaw hockey league".
 * 2) We do mention the OHL is a member of the Canadian Hockey League, which in turn is mentioned to not be directly governed by Hockey Canada. Major Junior is a different subject. Junior hockey in Canada (and the US) has traditionally been synonymous with the governing bodies. So when a league does not have sanctioning from one of them, it makes them unique. See also Manitoba Major Junior Hockey League, Western States Hockey League, Canadian Premier Junior Hockey League, and United States Premier Hockey League where they are all mentioned for their unique sanctioning. Mentioning not being pro ("Not apart of NHL, Not apart of OHL, Not Apart of SHL.") would be completely nonsensical.