User talk:FrogAussie

Gerard Tubier
Hi. Thanks for your additions to the article, but as the subject is a living person, ALL information added to the article must be sourced. See also WP:BLPREMOVE. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

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Hello - sorry, but can you help? I am so upset, in tears, just don't understand. I read the pages, but they don't seem to apply. For example, Brad Pitt's page says he is married to Angelina Jolie. There is no proof for this on that page. How could someone put this except to have a copy of the marriage certificate? Or uni diploma? This feels so cruel and hurtful. I don't understand why you are doing this to me.

Help me!
Please help me with...

Someone unknown to us placed a page for my father on wikipedia. he asked me to update it. I did, and the content keeps getting removed. The person who removed it when asked just sent a link to biographies of living persons rules, but I already read those. I don't understand why what our family did is wrong.

For example, we added that my father is married and had one child.

Well, Brad Pitt's page says, he has been married to actress Angelina Jolie since 2014. They have six children together.

What is the difference? How could someone be expected to prove that he is married. Am I to upload a copy of my parents marriage certificate online for the world to see? I just don't understand.

Similarly, we say he went to Macquarie University. Well, he did. How am I expected to prove it?

I am just so hurt about this.

FrogAussie (talk) 07:00, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * From what I see, the contents were unsourced, regardless of whether you know it's facts or not. SwisterTwister   talk  07:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Help me!
I am so sorry, maybe it's because this has been so upsetting, but I read all the info and I don't understand.

This seems like some special club or something.

What source for proving someone's marriage is acceptable? What source for a uni graduation is acceptable? That's all we want to know.

I am really so very upset and you all seem like machines, just deleting hard work and putting in pages of rules with no explanation of what they actually mean in practice.

I am utterly distraught

FrogAussie (talk) 07:32, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I am sorry that you are upset, but the point is that Wikipedia is not a social-networking site, where people write about themselves and their family; it is an encyclopedia, which is quite different. The Verifiability policy says that anything added must be verifiable from a reliable, published source. The point of "published" is that a reader should, in principle, be able to check where Wikipedia got its facts from. When the article Brad Pitt says that he married Angelina Jolie, a reference is given to this news report.


 * So, sorry, but your personal knowledge about your family is not a good enough source for Wikipedia. You will understand that if we accepted anything that someone on the end of a wire says they know, Wikipedia would become no more than a gossip column.


 * In any case, since the subject is your father, you really should not be editing the article directly because that gives you, from Wikipedia's point of view, a "conflict of interest". You should describe on the article's talk page Talk:Gerard Tubier any changes you think should be made, for which you can provide a published source - for instance, a news report of his wedding.


 * The page WP:Biographies of living persons/Help has advice for people in your position. JohnCD (talk) 09:47, 8 August 2016 (UTC)