User talk:FrozenShade666

July 2017
Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not intended to be a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Specific game mentions and screenshots should only be added if they are supported by reliable sources and relevant to the context. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * It was not a promotional material. Please consider your decision. FrozenShade666 (talk) 15:28, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * You yourself have stated that you are the copyright holder of the image you uploaded: . Your edits have included only adding this screenshot and mentions of this one game. This is promotional editing. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:41, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Sometimes people needs to start their work somehow... I started with that screen. Relax. "You yourself have stated that you are the copyright holder of the image you uploaded" - i was corrected an the proper source has been added. By the way - I don't understand your decision with removing almost all games from JMonkeyEngine. Most of these games are niche, independent or just hobby projects. But that does not deny their existence. Now, according to Wikipedia, there are only 3 games made with JMonkeyEngine. FrozenShade666 (talk) 15:49, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


 * You should not edit in areas where you have conflict of interest -- this is a surefire way to get yourself blocked. We generally recommend a very careful look at how to approach writing from a neutral point of view. Your edits, however, exceed that by a margin. Your edits are problematic, because you have chosen a game which does not extensively appear in reliable sources (such as video game ones) or have an article on Wikipedia. This makes it very unlikely that the game should serve as one of the primary examples in various articles. Even if it becomes notable and we make an article, it's unlikely to be a good example unless it gathers critical acclaim or sources remark on particular connection to some genre/concept/etc. The only edit I would say is marginally fine is your addition to JMonkeyEngine, even though it uses two primary sources, which is highly discouraged, especially when making lists of items. —  HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:25, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your advices. Do you think it will be fair if I start making pages for JMonkeyEngine's powered games, but only for those games that have some valuable sources over internet? I mean Eurogamer, CD Action or some niche, but still respectable portals about indie or retro games. Some of those games are available on Steam or are confirmed to be released (i.e. passed Greenlight or have publisher). Other are available on various stores for indie. The main problem is that not so may people knows about their existence, which is the main reason of actual situation, when there are really few sources about those games. FrozenShade666 (talk) 19:14, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The threshold for an article on Wikipedia is outlined in the general notability guidelines: multiple reliable independent in-depth sources would have to cover a game for us to make an article. Independent as in no connection to the developer. Reliable such as WP:VG/RS -- with fact-checking and editorial staff. In-depth such as reviews and not just passing mentions. Most indie games are not covered by media, simply because there are so many games as is. We won't cover them because they don't get exposure or are niche. We will only cover them if other reliable sources cover them first. Our game-specialized custom search is a good start. — HELL KNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:21, 27 July 2017 (UTC)