User talk:Frozensailor829

August 2021
 Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing because of the following problems: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or web site, which is against the username policy.

You may request a change of name and unblock if you intend to make useful contributions other than promoting your business or organization. To do this, first search Special:CentralAuth for available usernames that comply with the username policy. Once you have found an acceptable username, post the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with your new username and replace the text "Your reason here" with your reasons to be unblocked. In your reasons, you must:
 * Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the Paid-contribution disclosure requirement.
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

Appeals: If, after reviewing the guide to appealing blocks, you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal it by adding the text at the bottom of your talk page. Replace the text "Your reason here" with the reasons you believe the block was an error, and publish the page. Longhair\talk 15:18, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Welcome
G'day Gannonsaus, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions; they have helped improve Wikipedia and made it more informative. I hope you enjoy using Wikipedia and decide to make additional contributions.

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Please
Try to understand from the perspective of what WP:ABOUT, and WP:NOT Wikipedia is not a 'website' but an online encyclopedia.

You have blanked messages from WP:ADMIN - that is never much a sign of progress of understanding anything.

If you wish to add to information about horseracing from a different username, try understanding what the welcome message is offering. It needs patience to go through the links, and offer you ways of looking at things, that might indeed require a subtle shift from what you have offered so far.

WP:RS are the basic item - and an important part of how wikipedia works. If you add to Western Australian wheatbelt town articles about horseracing, just to add information, per se, is WP:OR and will be reverted. JarrahTree 09:07, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * WP:REFACTORING your own edits - is fine - please never do that for others edits - thanks...


 * Taking WP:ADMINS to task about yourunderstanding of wikipedia is a fatal mistake many new users make - please take very careful notice of what they have said to date - blanked, or not JarrahTree 09:29, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I have no issue with advice or being pointed in the right direction when an innocent blip is made, where my intention was not to violate a policy (no matter how broad). I factor what they have said, but being trigger happy, instating a permaban, and calling my posts spam was probably an overreach and heavy-handed. I am not taking an admin to task, but affirming my position that it is a two-way street and Wikipedia (encyclopedia or not) does not exist in a special realm under its own laws per se. If a new user makes a mistake, I would appreciate Admins taking your approach and providing lamingtons and advice. I at no time linked to a company website that I am involved with nor made mention of said company, both of which would have been obviously complicit and would deserve a permaban.


 * I have blanked the conversation as it was not constructive nor being interpreted in the spirit of my original intentions.


 * I have now acted in full disclosure and requested a new username. This should more than satisfy any policies that I am aware of, now. Gannonsaus (talk) 09:51, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * nope - see the talk item at the bottom of the page - loosen up or you might blow a bureaucratic speech boiler there!

usernames are often used specifically by people who are paid and represent the name of a company - and consequentially the general tendency - specially the majority of busy admins, is not to understand local contexts and nuances - one look - gannons = horseracing = COI = block or rename.

You wish to change name or get unblocked - you simply cannot answer ''I have blanked the conversation as it was not constructive nor being interpreted in the spirit of my original intentions. ''

wrong and counter intuitive - leave the material there, so that reviewing admins can see what is going on...  You need to slow down, and read the intro/welcome/etc links - try to get a handle on what it is like in here - it is not like other places - listen to what others say before you start writing again... Read the item at the bottom of this page very carefully, slowly, and carefully JarrahTree 10:06, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

New user name
As of 24 August 2021, the user has requested a new user name to further separate their corporate identity and reaffirming their position and intentions towards Wikipedia and its users.


 * May I just add here, and I realise we didn't get off to the best of starts for your Wikipedia career but I've been called and accused of worse before and it's water off a ducks back here, however... block notices should not be removed from talk pages while they remain as active blocks. If you like, I will assist you to properly resolve any issues that remain outstanding about your username issues and correctly format any conflict of interest disclosures that Wikipedia requires. You've added an article talk page paid disclosure which is not the correct template to use. It's unlikely anyone who can assist you, namely an administrator, will see anything you've added here without an open unblock request, which you've removed and replaced with the above disclosure text. -- Longhair\talk 09:43, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, thank you. Let me know how to correct this and move forward clean slate. Gannonsaus (talk) 09:56, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll fix your talk page issues first, then deal with what else I can assist with. -- Longhair\talk 09:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Cheers Gannonsaus (talk) 10:07, 25 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Also, let me just add, as a very high traffic website with as many as 50-100 edits per second arriving sometimes, perhaps more, Wikipedia attracts and deletes a ton of promotional editing, and while it may seem trigger happy and a harsh outcome to block so called spammers, (and I do acknowledge you were not outright spamming your company details, but I did sense a conflict of interest which made me take a closer look at things), that's the way it's done here; spam is a zero tolerance thing. Oftentimes, it's a reality check for what Wikipedia is about for many, who mistakenly think Wikipedia is where they can publish anything, about anything. Many editors who found themselves blocked have gone on to become great editors. Don't let this experience jade you... you tried to help, but your knowledge of the policies wasn't clear. I'm the first to admit there's a lot to learn about being here. -- Longhair\talk 10:26, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

I've merged your requests, only one open request is needed at a time. Subsequent comments should be standard comments. Someone else will review your request. 331dot (talk) 10:42, 26 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok, wasn't sure as I received an email saying the first request was rejected... hence the second request. Thanks for your help. Gannonsaus (talk) 10:45, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

globally renamed Gannonsaus to Frozensailor829
{renamernote}} globally renamed Gannonsaus to Frozensailor829, COurtesy ping -- Deep fried okra  ( talk ) 13:43, 30 August 2021 (UTC)