User talk:Fuhrsd

March 2022
Hello Fuhrsd. The nature of your edits, such as the one you made to LabVantage, gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Fuhrsd. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:08, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello - Thank you for your concern. I am updating this page because it is out of date and the company - LabVantage - asked me to do so. We're simplifying it so it's much easier for people to read and so they understand what the company does very quickly. Just simplifying all the copy down. My goal is not to promoted anything, simply to explain. May I continue with my edits, which the company has already approved? Thanks. -Scott Fuhrsd (talk) 14:31, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * The company's approval of your edits is irrelevant. The company does not own the content of their Wikipedia article and has no say as to its contents. Further, whether or not your intention was to promote the company, the language you used in your edits was blatantly promotional. Sentences like
 * A recognized leader in enterprise laboratory software solutions, LabVantage Solutions dedicates itself to improving customer outcomes by transforming data into knowledge, protecting data integrity, and enabling digital transformation.
 * are simply advertising, and nothing else.
 * Since you mention that LabVantage has asked you do update the page, I will take this opportunity to inform you that if you are being paid to update the page, you must disclose this fact. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi WikiDan61 - Thanks for helping me out. I created a user page for User:Fuhrsd to disclose who I am. I'm wondering if I can start to submit updated suggested edits to the LabVantage page that bring it up to speed? They've had a lot of developments in recent years and I think we can offer some further definitions that can really help visitors and researchers understand the laboratory management area even more. Specifically, I'm wondering if I can start submitting sections at a time to the editors in my personal Sandbox section for consideration, by starting with an Introduction section? And then moving on to additional sections, such as Company, Platform, LIMS/LIS, ELN, LES, SDMS, Services, and History? Our goal is not to be promotional - just factual. Does that sound like a good place I should start? Thanks again, Wiki nation!  Fuhrsd (talk) 12:58, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Your personal sandbox would be a good place to start. When you have created content there that you feel is useful, you can make a comment at Talk:LabVantage to direct editors to review your changes. Be patient -- the Wikipedia wheels grind slowly sometimes. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:10, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I will add that you should review Edit requests to learn how to make these requests on the article talk page. Regular comments might not get noticed, but proper edit requests are placed in a queue that is monitored. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:21, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I added a comment to the Talk:LabVantage page with my proposed editing idea and draft of the first proposed section for Intro. Fuhrsd (talk) 14:46, 12 May 2022 (UTC)