User talk:FunkMonk/Archive 24

Brachiosaurus
I found this article which discusses aquatic locomotion and mating in saurpods including Brachiosaurus. Perhaps a little more could be added to the article. LittleJerry (talk) 22:12, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure, wonder if and  have any comments on it. And there's still a bunch of info we need to add from that redescription paper... FunkMonk (talk) 22:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


 * I get the impression that Brachiosaurus in this article simply equals Giraffatitan. Also, this is really a general giant sauropod issue of a highly speculative nature. An "aquatic mounting" hypothesis smacks of various forms of "aquatic dinosaur" pseudoscience, like that of Brian J. Ford. In this matter there really isn't some vast riddle to be solved. Most eukaryotes join gametes without mounting or even touching. For sauropods there are many obvious non-aquatic solutions such as being supported by a hillock, the female crouching, the female rolling on her side or back, long penises or tail-to-tail mating.


 * Yes, we must process the other paper :o).--MWAK (talk) 09:13, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 Tree of Life Newsletter



 * October 2019&mdash;Issue 007


 * Tree of Life


 * Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!

{| role="presentation" class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:100%; background:#b6ecd0;" By request from another editor, this month I wrote an overview of ways that content is featured on Wikipedia. Below I have outlined some of the processes for getting content featured:
 * Alphabet Soup: Explaining DYK, GA, FA, and More

Did You Know (DYK)
What is it: A way for articles to appear on the main page of Wikipedia. A short hook in the format of "Did you know...that ___" presents unusual and interesting facts to the reader, hopefully making the reader want to click through to the article

How it works: The DYK process has fairly low barriers for participation. The eligibility criteria are few and relatively easy to meet. Some important guidelines: The process for creating the nomination is somewhat tedious. Instructions can be found here (official instructions) and here ("quick and nice" guide to DYK). Experience is the best teacher here, so don't be afraid to try and fail a few times. The last few DYK nominations I've done, however, have been with the help of SD0001's DYK-helper script, which makes the process a bit more streamlined (you create the template from a popup box on the article; created template is automatically transcluded to nominations page and article talk page)
 * To be eligible, article is either new (newly created or moved to mainspace), a 5x expansion, or passed a GA review. Its creation, expansion, or promotion to GA must have been in the past 7 days.
 * Article must be long enough, with more than 1,500 characters of prose (this doesn't include embedded lists)
 * I find Shubinator's DYKcheck script useful in determining whether an article is eligible for nomination.

Once your nomination is created and transcluded, it will need to be reviewed. The reviewer will check that the article meets the eligibility criteria, that the hook is short enough, cited, and interesting, and that other requirements are met, such as for images. If you've been credited with more than 5 DYKs, the reviewer will also check that you've reviewed someone else's nomination for each article that you nominate. This is called QPQ (quid pro quo). You can check how many credited DYKs you've had here to see if QPQ is required for you to nominate an article for DYK.

Good Article (GA)
What it is: A peer review process to determine that an article meets a set of criteria. This adds a symbol to the top of the article. About 1 in 200 articles on Wikipedia is a GA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Anyone can nominate an article&mdash;you don't have to be a major contributor, though it is considered polite to inform the major contributors that you are nominating the article. The article is added to a queue to await a review. In the ToL, it seems that reviews happen pretty quickly, thanks to our dedicated members. Once the review begins, the reviewer will offer suggestions to help the article meet the 6 GA criteria. Upon addressing all concerns, the reviewer will pass the article, and voilà! Good Article!

Advice to a first-time nominator: Look at other Good Articles in related areas before nominating. If you're unsure about nominating, consider posting to the talk page of your project to see what other editors think. You can also have a more experienced editor co-nominate the article with you.

Featured Article (FA)
What it is: An exhaustive peer review to determine that an articles meets the criteria. This adds a to the top of the article. About 1 in 1,000 articles on Wikipedia is a FA.

How it works: You follow the instructions to nominate an article, placing a template on its talk page. Nominated articles are usually GAs already. Uninvolved editors can nominate, though the article's regular editors should be consulted first. Several editors will come by offering feedback, eventually supporting or opposing promotion to FA. A coordinator will determine if there is consensus to promote the article to FA. For an editor's first FA, spot checks to verify that the sources support the text are conducted.

Advice to a first-time nominator: The Featured Article Candidate (FAC) process is a bit intimidating, but several steps can make your first one easier (speaking as someone who has exactly one). If you also did the GA nomination of the article, you can ask the reviewer for "extra" feedback beyond the GA criteria. You can also formally request a peer review and/or a copy edit from the Guild of Copy Editors to check for content and mechanics. First-time nominators are encouraged to seek the help of a mentor for a higher likelihood of passing their first FAC.

Good and Featured Topics (GT and FT)
What it is: It took me a while to realize we even had GT and FT on Wikipedia, as they are not very common relative to GA and FA. Both GT and FT are collections of related articles of high quality (all articles at GA or FA, all lists at Featured List). GT/FT have to be at least 3 articles with no obvious gaps in coverage of the topic, along with other criteria. For GT, all articles have to be GA quality and all lists must be FL. For FT, at least half the articles must be FA or FL, with the remaining articles at GA.

How it works: Follow the nomination procedures for creating a new topic or adding an article to an existing topic. Other editors weigh in to support or oppose the proposal. Coordinators determine if there is consensus to promote to GT/FT.

Advice to a first-time nominator: There are very few GT/FT in Tree of Life (5 GT and 11 FT). Most of the legwork appears to be improving a cohesive set of articles to GA/FA.
 * }

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Mammoth
Hypocrite. You always reject the obvious consensus from the other editors and demand that your POV remains untouched. You have been deleting info from the cloning section since it was created, "summarizing"it you claim, but when a summary is done and reditected to the parent article you flip-flop like a fish and post the long version again, forgetting all about having your panties in a bunch about the need to summarize it. Please stop your infantile trolling. Thank you. Rowan Forest (talk) 02:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I created the cloning section to begin with, so don't give me that BS. As I said, I wrote 90% of that article, and I know what it took to get it to FAC, so I won't just stand back and see it degraded with garbage pop science sources and bad writing. FunkMonk (talk) 20:57, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

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Spinophorosaurus scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that Spinophorosaurus has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 24 November 2019. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/November 24, 2019. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 15:38, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Nice! FunkMonk (talk) 15:44, 27 October 2019 (UTC)


 * But today, thank you for Rodrigues Solitaire! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, my first ever FAC, nice to finally see it up! FunkMonk (talk) 09:14, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I remember the feeling! Today, I am proud of a great woman on the Main page, Márta Kurtág, finally! - Here's my ideal candidate for arbcom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Today, thank you for Spinophorosaurus, "a long-necked dinosaur which is notable for bearing spikes on its tail, and in being one of the most completely known members of its group from its time and place. We have summarised all available sources, including a German book about the expeditions that found the fossils, and the article therefore has a detailed and rather dramatic account of the discovery"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * And you're welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 12:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Need your help
My partner on the wolf project withdraw. I would like another opinion on the new comments the PR. See the links below.


 * User_talk:William_Harris
 * Peer_review/Wolf/archive1
 * I left a comment in the section there. I don't think there is anything to worry about, it is common to disagree with reviewer comments, and that's only a peer review anyway. FunkMonk (talk) 15:45, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Rodrigues parrot scheduled for TFA
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For Featured Articles promoted on or after October 1, 2018, there will be an existing blurb linked from the FAC talk page, which is likely to be transferred to the TFA page by a coordinator at some point.

We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  07:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 08:20, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

It’s that time of year!

 * Thanks, and here is a dinosaur themed Christmas card in return! FunkMonk (talk) 20:41, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

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S Curve
Hi FunkMonk, I reverted your edit to S Curve, not because there was anything wrong with your edit, but because of the edits before and after yours. I have replaced Sigmoid curve. Leschnei (talk) 17:06, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, I didn't even notice. FunkMonk (talk) 20:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Segnosaurus
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Segnosaurus you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 09:40, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

The countdown

 * Thank you, hope to see you on the other side! FunkMonk (talk) 15:10, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Segnosaurus

 * Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 09:17, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  03:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! FunkMonk (talk) 08:56, 2 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Today, thank you for Rodrigues parrot, "the last article about an extinct species of parrot from the Mascarene islands yet to be nominated here, so I thought it was time to put it up. Very little is known about the bird, but most of what has ever been written about it is summarised here. The article also covers two supposedly congeneric, but dubious, species."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome! FunkMonk (talk) 08:39, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a peer review open, Clara Schumann, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I'll see if I have anything to add... FunkMonk (talk) 09:10, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. This is a hard one - for me - because I didn't write it, found it like this just before her bicentenary, which it entered like this. Kma67 helped with copy-edits, Chuckstreet with the referencing, later that month it entered GAN [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clara_Schumann&oldid=919441734 like this, and was approved as a GA by Reaper Eternal on 15 October, - then - of course - with all paragraphs ending on a citation. I think she deserves a FA but am not sure how. - We now have an article by many aothors, with referencing unified by Chuckstreet who is no longer available. I am unsure about things such as the sections about people (her husband, Brahms ...) vs. a more chronological telling of her life. Thoughts? I don't know how much about her thoughts about other composers - which didn't change music history, afaik - we should represent. Such questions. As for duplicate links, in any rendering of Life and Work, we should allow a link in both areas because readers might look at only one. There's also ;) - ... and to decide what else should go to the lead ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, when I've taken over articles that already had much text, such as passenger pigeon, I would read a book on the subject, and double check all the info with it to verify and consolidate. During this process I would add additional info or remove info, depending on what I saw in the book. Could maybe be a solution here. On links, yeah, if they are not too close to each other, duplication is ok in a long article. But it should be checked that links to the same things aren't in successive paragraphs, etc. FunkMonk (talk) 10:21, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Mail
I just sent you an email. Atsme Talk 📧 20:06, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Segnosaurus
The article Segnosaurus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Segnosaurus for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jens Lallensack -- Jens Lallensack (talk) 16:41, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

Kosmoceratops scheduled for TFA
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 * Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 19:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Perspective
Hi, FM - do you remember the Burma-Shave signs along the highway? I attempted to maintain (z axis) perspective and still keep the signage readable but as you can see in the 2 images, the perspective of distance between objects is sacrificed. This is one of the areas where I struggle, and if a mathematical computation is required in a pre-drawn frame, well...nope - not happening. Any tips you can provide will be greatly appreciated. FYI - the discussion that inspired the signage begins here. Atsme Talk 📧 12:32, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting but tricky project, ! I guess the question is whether the relative size between the signs looks correct compared to the spacing? I think that looks fine, but one thing to note is that the lower sign design you use shows all four side surfaces in perspective (like on a keyboard button), though two or more of them would not be visible if we assume this is a normal "plank" of a sign (of course depending on view angle and thickness of the sign). For example, here you see the sign head on, so you don't see any edges (disregard the white wear that looks a bit like edges), while here you see them from slightly above and the side, which reveals the upper surfaces and a bit of the left surfaces here: FunkMonk (talk) 19:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, FM - the 2 images you linked are very helpful. Atsme Talk 📧 19:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Bold, revert, discuss reversion of your proposed merge of Ostrich egg to Ostrich
Per Bold, Revert, Discuss, I have reverted your good-faith, but malformed, merger proposal of Ostrich egg to Ostrich for two reasons:
 * 1) It was malformed, without the required talkpage discussion anywhere; and,
 * 2) At this RfD discussion, consensus was, specifically, to retarget away from Ostrich. While consensus can change, it was felt that Egg as food was more appropriate. Note this retargeting was without prejudice to creating an article for Ostrich egg, which  did, and which I thought was reasonable and not an unnecessary content fork.

Feel free to re-propose the merger, with a talkpage discussion if you wish, but do note that Ostrich may not be the best target.

Also, and by no means am I suggesting this is the case, but I have noticed page patrollers and pending changes editors being too quick to revert new targets for redirects, or redirects converted to articles. Just a suggestion, but personally, what I would prefer to do is to initiate a discussion with the user before doing the reversion. It's so much more in good-faith.

Anyway, happy editing! :-)

Cheers,

--Doug Mehus T · C  20:15, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Started talk page section. FunkMonk (talk) 20:16, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Please do not just undo my reversion per WP:BRD. You still need to re-add the talk page section to the wikilink in the merger template. So, instead of using 'undo', copy and paste the merger tag, with the correct section link in the discussion area. Doug Mehus T · C  20:20, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , Per WP:NOTBURO, I have re-added the merge tag for you, with the correct discussion page link. Doug Mehus T · C  20:29, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Please keep this discussion to the relevant talk page so other editors can see it. FunkMonk (talk) 20:31, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * , ✅. Doug Mehus T · C  20:45, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Left-aligned images and infoboxes
Left aligned images that are high up in the article make the text squeezed in a small space in the center. To me this sandwiched text looks awkward and doesn't serve readability. (I actually rarely think a left aligned image works well at the beginning of a section, but the sandwiched text is a standalone issue.) I don't think removing left alignment in these situations is an overzealous interpretation of the MOS. MOS:SANDWICH says "avoid sandwiching text between...an image and infobox". But I'm happy to hear more about your further thoughts on this if I'm not interpreting your edit summary correctly. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 16:51, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
 * In any case, the issue should now be solved. FunkMonk (talk) 17:33, 8 February 2020 (UTC)

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TFA
Thank you today for Kosmoceratops, "about a dinosaur which is said to have had the most ornamented skull of them all, therefore the cool name. Writing this article has also been motivated by a certain US president slashing the national monument which is the only place this dinosaur has been found in half, and hopefully getting this article to the front page one day could spread some awareness."! - hopefully today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yeah, dinosaurs are always attention grabbers, so let's hope... FunkMonk (talk) 11:13, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a "bird" on the same page, DYK? Great memories of actually having seen that, while the Voice of the Forest Bird is normally only heard, not seen. -Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, I was confused of what era, as I saw no birth date. Perhaps not findable? FunkMonk (talk) 12:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I found nothing, and remember a soprano whose date was there but she wanted it removed saying that people potenionally casting her might not, because of age. I removed it, but it's still on wikidata, of course ;) - She looked great when I took her pic. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Interesting, well, down the line it will probably be hard to keep the dates out if others start mingling with the pages... FunkMonk (talk) 13:04, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Notification about a FAC renomination
Greetings,

since you did comment on this later withdrawn FAC I wanted to notify you that I've renominated it at Featured article candidates/Coropuna/archive2. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:15, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

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Rodrigues starling scheduled for TFA
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We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  14:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok! FunkMonk (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Segnosaurus scheduled for TFA
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We suggest that you watchlist Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me?  10:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Two "birds" with one stone! Though they're already dead... FunkMonk (talk) 10:50, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Disambig pages
Okay, time to ask someone who (probably) knows. I'm gathering sources to create disambiguation pages for plant genera and species. Anything you can tell me about this process, for either animal or plant species, would be really helpful. For instance, for T. rex (disambiguation), did someone Google "T. rex"? Is there a working assumption that people will sometimes shorten binomial names to just the species name, so that a disambiguation page is assumed to be needed if there are two unrelated organisms with the same species name? - Dank (push to talk) 04:12, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Wolf
Please rely to the Wolf FAC. I really need another opinion. LittleJerry (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Dinosaurs
Hi, FM! Hope all is well on your end. Not sure how closely you keep up with dinosaur news, but I thought maybe this info might interest you. Atsme Talk 📧 14:48, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks, all is fine here, as I can work from home during these strange days. And that also gave me some time to watch some of your documentaries, it was really nice to see how the genuine enthusiasm just oozes out of them! And yeah, I follow dinosaur news quite closely, but still nice to see those discoveries on parade. I hope you're well too, and if we're told to stay home much longer, maybe it'll at least give us more time to research and write (currently working on the Lythronax article with a couple of other dino-project guys)... FunkMonk (talk) 15:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * There's currently a discussion at Jimbo's page about working from home. Atsme Talk 📧 15:16, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Ooh, fingers crossed! I have my doubts whether Jimbo even looks at his talk page, though... It's kind of like writing letters to Santa Claus. FunkMonk (talk) 15:23, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Invitation
We'd love to have your participation over at WikiProject Extinct Hawaiian Land Snails. Happy April Fools! Sdkb (talk) 07:04, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my daftness, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 07:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lythronax
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TFA
Thank you today for Rodrigues starling, about an "extinct bird with an interesting history"! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome as always! FunkMonk (talk) 07:26, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Lythronax
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TFA
Thank you today for Segnosaurus, "a therizinosaur, one of the strangest dinosaur groups (and one of my favourites); they would have looked like huge, pot-bellied birds, with long claws on their forelimbs. This article is about one of the first known members of the group, and therefore also covers the long standing mystery about them, and how palaeontologists slowly realised what they were." - Loving-kindnesses for Easter! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome, and happy Easter! FunkMonk (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Limusaurus
Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Limusaurus has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

This sentence in the "Skull" section: "The skull was tall and short, roughly half the length of the femur (upper thigh bone)." is confusing. The skull can't be both "tall" and "short". I assume another descriptor was intended.

Best of luck with the FAC.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I think "deep" might be better than tall then? FunkMonk (talk) 19:28, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my edits
Hey, I'm just leaving this message to thank you for correcting me in several of my edits, including the one from Istiodactylus, when I put unnecessary parenthesis on the authors, I actually learnt something there! Also, some other edits of mine that you reverted were probably non-sense, like that one from Argentinosaurus, where I said the image appeared a bit large, that's possibly because I was using my phone to edit instead of my computer, although that doesn't really matter. Anyways, thanks again! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:14, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, that's how I learned stuff here myself! And thanks for adding bullet points to species, it seems that before they weren't needed to create a new space, but maybe something has changed since... I wonder what the purpose of your edit to the Thalassodromeus cladograms was (it creates less white space to show them side by side)? As for Argentinosaurus, also keep  in mind that it is preferred that the subject of an image "face" towards the text instead of away from it. FunkMonk (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for telling me about why you changed those edits! I actually got a bit confused why the two cladograms where too close to each other, that's why I changed it, but now I know why I shouldn't. I sure learn a lot here in Wikipedia! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:37, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Perhaps they looked closer on the phone? But feel free to ask about anything if you have questions. FunkMonk (talk) 15:42, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that's probably it, and thanks again for correcting me! JurassicClassic767 (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Cheetah
It's been a while talking to you :) I come to you with a doubt. Not sure if you've seen my work at Cheetah, but it's something I've been working on since a few years now and in a month or so I plan to take this to FAC. First I will go for a copyedit (it is listed at Requests) and a PR alongside just to see what people think. But recently there has been some discussion about the length of the article as it was yesterday, and it has left me confused. This worries me because I have plans for the article and this is my first article on a really broad topic. I found excellent details for every section but I tried my best to add only what I felt was relevant and not covered in other articles. Anyway I had planned to trim it a bit but not to the extent it has been if you look at the article now. I wonder if I made any mistake and though I've tried to talk about this on the discussion page, I thought of asking you too (not there, too much there already) as you have been an awesome friend to me all these years, I could do with some good feedback here, and I think you have handled huge or near-huge articles at FAC before unlike me. Thanks and stay safe :) Sainsf  (knock knock · am I there?) 17:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, always nice to see what you're up to! Personally I don't think the size is a issue, Maya civilization, which I reviewed, sailed through FAC and it's much larger. I think the longest article I've nominated was Passenger pigeon, and it got no complaints either. I think you could start a PR and just get some wider views there, maybe a consensus will emerge. FunkMonk (talk) 21:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I recall, the Pigeon article is way longer in words than Cheetah ever was. Right, I'll open a PR soon and talk about this.. please weigh in if you're free :) Sainsf  (knock knock · am I there?) 22:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, when the time comes, I'll PR it with FAC in mind, then I can support it immediately at FAC afterwards when those issues are solved. FunkMonk (talk) 07:34, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and just to let you know the PR is open now. Sainsf  (knock knock · am I there?) 07:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool, I have a couple of FACs to get through, then I'll take a look. FunkMonk (talk) 08:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I raised size as a problem in regards to articles on specific species. Maya is an ancient civilization so that's different. Passenger pigeon is around 140,000 K which isn't too large. LittleJerry (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * What counts is the size of the text, though, not including citations, images, etc. There is some tool to calculate this size separately. FunkMonk (talk) 20:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The Page size tool. It shows 9.3K words now I think. Sainsf  (knock knock · am I there?) 20:44, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes it is 9.3K words and 56KB readable text compared to 11K words and 67 KB just before the tag as placed. Hopefully it addresses your concerns. Cheers, Sainsf  (knock knock · am I there?) 20:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Catopsbaatar scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that Catopsbaatar has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 3 May 2020. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/May 3, 2020. Thanks! Ealdgyth (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC) (I think I managed to hold you down to one TFA article this month, at least?) --Ealdgyth (talk) 15:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hehe, gotta save some up for the rest of the year! FunkMonk (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for "the first article about a multituberculate mammal to be nominated here (if we don't count Ucucha's Ferugliotherium, which may or may not belong to the group). These extinct mammals lived alongside the dinosaurs and survived them, and the article covers one of the more completely known members of the group."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome as always! FunkMonk (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

April 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
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 * Lol. FunkMonk (talk) 21:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * And he wonders why he gets reported on sight... Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 22:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I wonder if he just copied that notice from his own talk pages, he must have gotten a couple, haha... FunkMonk (talk) 23:18, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

WT:FAC
I'm afraid you will get nowhere in that discussion. He is impervious to anything that does not agree with him, and will never admit he is wrong, even when the evidence is clearly shown to him. I have no idea why there is such an inflexible and combative approach, but good luck otherwise! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:27, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, well, I have not had any past encounters with him, so maybe my points can get more cleanly across because there's no prior "beef" between us... FunkMonk (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I hope that's the case, but it doesn't look positive so far! Good luck! - SchroCat (talk) 16:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just saw his latest reply, I give up, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Harpy eagle
Hi, I found you to be one of the intelligent person in Animals, do you think this prominent eagle's article is already ready for GA to be nominated? 124.123.30.165 (talk) 05:20, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see a bunch of unsourced paragraphs, so it would still need some work. Could probably also be expanded. FunkMonk (talk) 08:18, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Mountain zebra skull
Hello. Would you be able to take a look at this? Read the second paragraph of "skull", Could you break that down in simpler language. I'd like to give a general description of the mountain zebra's head. Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 23:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Ooh, much of that seems to be specifically mammal anatomy, which I'm not too familiar with (mainly with reptile skulls). Maybe you can give it a try, and I can look it over and change if something looks off? What I often do is just google the various terms while writing, I can usually translate most terms that way. FunkMonk (talk) 23:12, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, you can take a look at my sandbox. LittleJerry (talk) 00:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Where on the page can I see the info? FunkMonk (talk) 08:33, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The mountain zebra section of the species box. LittleJerry (talk) 11:21, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I'm not sure I see "with a shorter upper jaw, straight muzzle" in the source, it is talking about the shape of the suture that connects the nasal bone with the frontal bone, which doesn't translate to the shape of the muzzle itself, and likewise, I'm not sure the length of the maxillary tuberosity influences how short the upper jaw is. I think you'd have to stick pretty close to what the source says to not lose meaning, or maybe just not mention it. I'd probably say eye socket instead of orbit too. I think it is more understandable to mention the squarer nuchal crest, as that's plainly visible to anyone on the back of a horse's skull, unlike sutures and tuberosities. FunkMonk (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Kenomagnathus image copyright
We had this discussion a while back:

I think I understand how the copyright system works now. The copyright of any given article in Palaeontologia Electronica can be held by one of a few different organizations: SVP, PalSoc/PalAss, or Coquina Press. If the copyright is held by SVP or Coquina Press, it is CC BY. If it is held by PalSoc/PalAss, it is CC BY-NC-SA. Since the copyright of the Kenomagnathus paper is held by SVP, it is CC BY so the images can be uploaded to Commons.

It may be worth going over other images we have from that journal on Commons... Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 20:07, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The specific paper says this: "Copyright: January 2020 Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/" So I think it may differ from paper to paper, Royal Society B also had articles with different licenses from the same journal, for example. FunkMonk (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Another Palaeontologia Electronica paper: "Copyright: © June 2017 Society of Vertebrate Paleontology. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original author and source are credited. creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/" FunkMonk (talk) 20:44, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * This is really weird. I kind of want to get in touch with the journal to see what's going on. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 21:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * They have a copyright page stating something along the lines of what you said, but I can't seem to correlate them with any of those papers. But it's probably easiest to ask them. That's how I found out the Acta Electronica Polonica journal became CC licensed retroactively when they changed their copyright, by sending them an email. But in any event, we would have to check their papers individually. FunkMonk (talk) 21:41, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The editor got back to me. It was a mistake — the article is CC BY. I think that means the images are usable :) Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 17:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice! But will they fix it on the website? Otherwise it will be hard for us to "prove" if someone nominates the images for deletion. By the way, nice work on Eichstaettisaurus, there is an Acta Polonia paper with more free images, I wonder whether they should be used, or if you maybe had trouble extracting them? FunkMonk (talk) 17:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I just checked and it is fixed. About the Eichstaettisaurus paper — Figure 11 is in the article already. I wasn't too big on the other images.... only Figs 2-4 and 11 pertain to Eichstaettisaurus, the article has the equivalent of Fig 2 in colour, Fig 11 is basically a more useful version of Fig 3. Fig 4 might be useful but it's a bit confusing as is. Lythronaxargestes (talk &#124; contribs) 17:47, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Alright, so I guess you already know how to extract images from PDFs, that's the important thing! FunkMonk (talk) 17:50, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Synonym lists in taxoboxes
I agree that there should be a wider discussion of how to handle synonym lists in taxoboxes, including the issues of ordering and hiding. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * For botanical names, alphabetic order is really the only possible choice, I think, but for zoological names, alphabetic or date order is a real choice that we could discuss.
 * MOS:DONTHIDE does seem to oppose hidden text, including in infoboxes like taxoboxes: "A few infoboxes also use pre-collapsed sections for infrequently accessed details. If information in a list, infobox, or other non-navigational content seems extraneous or trivial enough to inspire pre-collapsing it, consider raising a discussion on the article (or template) talk page about whether it should be included at all. If the information is important and the concern is article density or length, consider dividing the article into more sections, integrating unnecessarily list-formatted information into the article prose, or splitting the article." There are also strong words on not initially hiding text.
 * Nice, I think a discussion at TOL could be begun with this text? I think synonym lists are a special case that is hard to compare with anything else, but that can be discussed further at TOL. FunkMonk (talk) 13:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Maaradactylus spielbergi merge
Hey! Hope I'm not disturbing ya! I've seen that merge proposal you initiated at Maaradactylus spielbergi, and only few papers use it's former name Coloborhychus spielbergi, so merging (or redirecting) it to Maaradactylus would be better? The fact that the article only has 4 paragraphs, which can be mentioned in at least 2 sentences (if merged), it's gonna be easier and probably better than keeping a separate article for a separate species, right? So, should we merge it any time soon? The discusion started months ago, and I think sufficient users have commented their thoughts (or maybe not...?). Jurassic Classic 767 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'd think so, but it's always good to get more opinions.. FunkMonk (talk) 19:48, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * So, we should inform more users about the subject then, but it has to be someone that knows at least something about what we're talking about? Oh, and if we want to talk about basis, this paper is cited in the Maaradactylus article, might give some brief mentions about the reassigning of the species from Coloborhynchus to Maaradactylus, so I think it's a probable reference for the merge. I might also add some info to the Maaradactylus article about M. spielbergi and its reassignment, so if the merge is agreed, then we'll just have to delete the content and not think so much about what to put. Jurassic Classic 767  (talk | contribs) 20:55, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I mean more users will probably comment on the talk page down the line. It isn't a particularly pressing issue, and we can also just wait until more papers support the conclusion. FunkMonk (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I guess we'll just leave it how it is? Would you still consider adding more info about M. spielbergi in the main article? Also, looks like most of our discussions just end up with me giving up on what to say, hehe, such as this one! Anyway, looks like you want this discussion ended for now, so I'll just leave it as well, you do (and probably will) have a point on new papers coming.  Jurassic Classic 767  (talk | contribs) 21:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I definitely think you could add the relevant info, then a merge will be quick and easy when it happens. FunkMonk (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The merge might not be into action soon, but thanks for the consideration of the idea in general! Jurassic Classic 767  (talk | contribs) 22:18, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Kampecaris
I don't think Kampecaris is monotypic. Fossilworks lists a Kampecaris forfarensis. And Peach 1899 describes a new species of Kampecaris, not a new genus. Abductive (reasoning) 01:13, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, in that case the genus name should have remained a red link, but it was a redirect. In any case, we usually keep prehistoric species covered at the genus level. FunkMonk (talk) 01:17, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I leave it to you to add the other species then. Abductive  (reasoning) 01:22, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

May 2020 Tree of Life Newsletter
Enwebb (talk) 19:40, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

TFA
This is to let you know that the Lythronax article has been scheduled as today's featured article for June 4, 2020. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Today's featured article/June 4, 2020.—Wehwalt (talk) 14:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Cool. FunkMonk (talk) 14:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the article, "the first FAC about a tyrannosaur, one of the most famous dinosaur groups, since 2008's Gorgosaurus. It is also one of the few dinosaurs ever mentioned in a presidential proclamation, for rather unfortunate reasons."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Willkommen! FunkMonk (talk) 08:11, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Zebra range
Hi. Would you be able to create a combined range map for the three zebra species? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 00:11, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, I can have a look, what sources, and how would you want it to look? FunkMonk (talk) 09:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can look up their ranges on the IUCN. I was thinking making the map like File:Connochaetes map.png LittleJerry (talk) 14:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you give me the individual links? Will make it easier to begin. FunkMonk (talk) 14:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Please use a map of Africa connected to land masses rather than just isolated. LittleJerry (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Like this? FunkMonk (talk) 14:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. LittleJerry (talk) 20:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Is it going okay? LittleJerry (talk) 23:01, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * It's a bit of an undertaking, so it might take a little while before I get to it. But you might get a quicker result at for example: Graphics Lab FunkMonk (talk) 23:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * is much quicker than me at making these, maybe he'd be able to? FunkMonk (talk) 17:24, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Love to. Mariomassone (talk) 21:30, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Mariomassone (talk) 20:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Nice, much cleaner than I could have made it. What do you say, ? FunkMonk (talk) 20:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks guys. LittleJerry (talk) 21:05, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

dafuqsa
All seriousness aside, NHMU per se in that caption? Meanwhile... --Brogo13 (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Once a name of an institution is spelled out at first mention in a caption, as it is under Paleobiology, an abbreviation can be used at subsequent mentions, as it would be assumed the reader has read the earlier caption. FunkMonk (talk) 18:51, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I (hereby) suggest removing NHMU [recte UMNH]. Etc. --Brogo13 (talk) 19:48, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Why? FunkMonk (talk) 07:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Because. Say you're new to English—or, worse, a kid—who habitually browses the pictures (and captions) first... --Brogo13 (talk) 10:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * By that logic, we should cut half of the article because kids won't understand it. But that's what Simple Wikipedia is for. FunkMonk (talk) 10:20, 30 June 2020 (UTC)