User talk:FuriousJorge

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You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

August 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are not allowed to say so and so has bias A'' or the like. Stop.'' —  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. —  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:49, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Blocked
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 * Warning above about edit warring: dated 07:01, August 27, 2009
 * Latest attempt to insert contested material, substantively the same as the material you were warned about above, dated 05:53, August 28, 2009
 * As a matter of point, being referenced is not carte blanche to edit war, and WP:BLP should be followed closely. -- Jayron  32  12:37, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Block extended
You have been blocked for 1 week for violating the sockpuppetry guidelines. NW ( Talk ) 01:38, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

This is complete BS. Based on what? Geographic location? I just outside manhattan. Half the country lives here. What is my recourse?
 * Half the country lives just outside Manhattan? Wow! I'm sure the US Census Bureau is going to be in for quite the shock next year when they do the 2010 census. Niteshift36 (talk) 07:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Remember that sockpuppet investigation you commented on? It's been confirmed that you're that IP.  Checkusers can look directly at the IP addresses that users use, and they saw yours.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:31, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Denial will not help your case.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:37, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Whatever. Your slandar of me may be paying dividends, but that was NOT my IP (as you suggest), not did I recruit anyone (as the administration suggests).  Enjoy this, because the criticism is going in there.FuriousJorge (talk) 04:40, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think you understand. You were ✅ by a checkuser to be that IP, period.  Further denial shall not help your case.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:42, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

No, actually YOU don't understand. Check the results of your Investigation: "I highly doubt that coincidence brought WizardSleeve/IP to the discussion out of thin air. It's either a blatant attempt at meatpuppetry, or the two registered accounts are in fact the same person. Hence, we could use CU to look for any technical evidence between the two registered accounts. MuZemike 23:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)"  No mention of same IP. And I know it is not the same IP because the only other person who uses this connection is my girlfriend and she simply would not and did not post here.

Show me where it says IPs matched. It does not because it cannot. FuriousJorge (talk) 04:49, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Also it says: Unlikely but same geographic region/ISP; possible meat puppet. Brandon (talk) 00:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC).

In other words, that guys said is was unlikely, so how did I get blocked?

So you are wrong. Acknowledge it or just please refrain from continueing your slander.FuriousJorge (talk) 04:51, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

And, again I live just outside of NYC. Cablevision is the nations LARGEST ISP. Somebody screwed up here bad. 04:52, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I might have let that one go, except that you had to put "largest ISP" in all caps. No, Cablevision isn't the nations largest ISP. They have 2.5% of the market. SBC, with 15.4% is the biggest, followed by Comcast at 15.3%. Cablevisions 2.4 million subscribers doesn't even come close to the 14.8 million and 14.7 million subscribers the other 2 have respectively. Cablevision is the NINTH largest ISP in the US. . Niteshift36 (talk) 07:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Allow me to correct myself: Cablevision is the largest ISP in the most densly populated area of the country where I live.FuriousJorge (talk) 07:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I am not wrong. The CU posted his findings at the bottom. It clearly states FuriousJorge confirmed as 67.84.209.35. It may not currently say your name in front of ✅, but that is because a bot messed up.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  04:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

You already got what you wanted, why must you continue to slander? Don't you think if my ip matched it WOULD SAY it there. Obviously it would. The other guys as much as said it was UNLIKELY and based only on REGION/ISP. What a farce.

You are way out of your element. If they know both regions and ISPs they ALREADY KNOW my IP. You should educate yourself to avoid being proved wrong in the future. FuriousJorge (talk) 05:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, no. It says FuriousJorge confirmed as 67.84.209.35.  It says that Wizard is unrelated to the to you and the IP, not that the IP is unrelated to you.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  05:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * That is not my IP. You are wrong.  I'll explain it to you again:  That is the IP of the person who is my alleged puppet.  That IS NOT my IP.  That's why they use the word "meatpuppet" not "sockpuppet".  They are saying I recruited someone (in my sleep apparently).  That's why in the opinion of one of the people involved in the investigation:


 * "WizardSleeve (talk+ • tag • contribs • deleted contribs • logs • abuse log • block user • spi block • block log • checkuser) as 67.84.209.35 (talk • contribs • abuse log • WHOIS · RBLs • block user • block log • checkip). Unlikely to FuriousJorge but same geographic region/ISP; possible meat puppet. Brandon (talk) 00:43, 29 August 2009 (UTC)"


 * I'm sure you already know this, though. You just insist on misrepresenting.  Once again, if they know my ISP and Region they know my IP.  That is why they said "Unlikely FuriousJorge", but possible "metpuppet".  If it was the same IP he would have said "Likely FuriousJorge".  How they claim this for the most densly populated area in the hemisphere is what I don't understand.  Everyone around here has the same ISP and Region.FuriousJorge (talk) 07:59, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
 * At the time, I didn't know that. I am wrong, I admit this, but, if you just take the time to read and check, you will see I was simply following the sockpuppet report.  It did not say what it does now, read the diff and find out.—  Dæ dαlus Contribs  21:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. FuriousJorge (talk) 04:54, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, I'll do some investigation and decide if I can find any evidence to file a further appeal.FuriousJorge (talk) 09:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

(I lost motivation to debate this, but I wanted to add "Possibility D': This person was one of the users who have had their criticisms of Mr. Hannity censored from the page, and saw an opportunity to chime in, much to my detriment.  The truth is, I did no further investigation.  It takes too long to go through the history and all those diffs.  I did notice one additional piece of evidence:

This person used the word 'Vandalism' to describe the edits to the page which removed all negative content. Had I thought of that before this user appeared, you can bet I would have been using the same word. I do now use that word to describe what has happened to the page, but until that person used it it had not occurred to me to do so. This, combined with the fact that I have never posted at that time because I am sound asleep, constitutes my only defense. Its the best I can do to prove a negative.FuriousJorge (talk) 06:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC))

Wow, dude, one of the same people who accused you is now accusing me! A shame that they would block you without any evidence. Maybe I'm headed in the same direction! And all for trying to clean up the much-vandalized Sean Hannity article.Stargnoc (talk) 00:55, 10 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Except that I didn't make the SPI complaint. I just commented on it. Daedalus969 initiated the investigation. So I didn't actually "accuse" him. But I doubt facts will change your rhetoric. Niteshift36 (talk) 00:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the sentiment, but my advice to you would be to let it go. See the section below. FuriousJorge (talk) 06:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

3RR
Im not sure if you caught this, but aside from yourself, i think, Soxwon also violated the 3RR rule on August 27th, did you report it? If not, i don't think you can still report it at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring, but i could be wrong. If not familiarize yourself with the 3RR rule, and you can avoid making the same mistake again in the future, and you can report violations of it at the Administrators' noticeboard in the link above. -- Hroþberht (gespraec) 06:58, 4 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I appreciate the sentiment, but I think I need to learn to chose my battles and go back to editing in only sports and science related articles. Besides, wouldn't that just make me look bitter?  In addition, I've just discovered another curious deletion of a section of mine in the talk page, and I've already reverted that.  If I start 'investigating' people I'm not gonna be able to resist the urge to defend myself from the torrent that will surely follow.


 * Besides, while you and I both see that there is something wrong with censorship/vandalism in this article, I'm totally compromised by that 'investigation' above. I don't see how anything I contribute could help my cause at this point  (by the way, I did not recruit anyone to post on my behalf, nor did I do it in my sleep.  see aboce.).


 * Again, I appreciate it, but my advice to you would be to let it go. The article's is hopelesly controlled by a few individuals who completely dictate the message.  Just look at how quickly negative content gets delted wholesale, and how quickly after that the same editors are ganging up on the contributor.  We're talking minutes, not days.


 * Wait until it is an election season, or the next time Hannity does something outrageous. Criticism cannot simply be added to this article, it takes a hannity screw up and a force of nature to get it in.  Even then it just gets removed in a few weeks or months and the cycle starts again.


 * Hopefully wikipedia policy will address this down the road.

Cheers FuriousJorge (talk) 10:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Hate to burst your conspiracy theory bubble, but it wasn't removed, it was archived, by a bot, on October 4. . Niteshift36 (talk) 17:19, 7 October 2009 (UTC)


 * You are absolutely correct. Then someone restored it.  Then someone removed only the section where I point out the vandal (now blocked) who attacked this page.  Please check the history.  Then I resotred that section, only to log on today and see that even the talk page is censored...  it has been removed again....  such a shame.  FuriousJorge (talk) 04:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks,Stargnoc (talk) 05:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

SPI
You have been accused of Sockpuppetry, please see. Soxwon (talk) 06:40, 2 January 2010 (UTC)