User talk:Futbolface

Hi Futbolface,

I speak for my fellow members of the PSU student body and for the PSU fanbase when I say that Rutgers is not our rival. If you would take a moment to read over this, I will explain why. First and foremost, rivalries are founded on respect NOT hate. Furthermore, it is ridiculous to try and call something a rivalry after just one game. These are the facts about the "rivalry" that people are trying to hard to make a reality:

1) The Rutgers fans behaved in a disgusting and disrespectful manner at the Big Ten inaugural game. I was there, that's all there is to it. They were shouting profanities at the Penn State fans left and right...that DOES NOT mean that we are rivals when it was something so one-sided. Please do not degrade our fine institution by associating us with such an embarrassing, disrespectful, and trashy group of individuals. It's insulting, especially with the way they choose to represent themselves and the Big Ten.

2) On the topic of respect which is the main foundation of a rivalry...Rutgers showed us anything BUT respect at the football game this past season and quite frankly, we don't respect Rutgers. We are out of their league both academically and athletically, we would more readily accept Maryland as a new rival because Maryland is a strong academic institution along with the fact that if you look through basketball championships, field hockey championships, etc. you will see Maryland's name in there. Maryland is not only a good academic institution, but they have great all-around athletics JUST LIKE PENN STATE. However, do not forget Penn State is still ranked higher than Maryland academically and we have the largest and most well-connected alumni network in the world. Rutgers doesn't come anywhere close to us. We laugh at Rutgers fans who try to say that we are rivals because in truth, they are nowhere NEAR the caliber of a real Big Ten school (not just Penn State). They are nowhere near Michigan, Northwestern, Ohio State...Rutgers just doesn't compare and people from every other Big Ten school agree that Rutgers has no business being in a conference like the Big Ten which is known for outstanding academics AND athletics. No, we don't respect Rutgers and we never will. The only reason that football game was so close was the fact that we had some major issues on offense this year, chief among them our offensive line woes. The Rutgers game won't even be a contest this year.

3) Just because a game was highly rated on TV does not automatically mean that it can somehow be viewed as a rivalry. It was ONE GAME. Let's also not forget that Rutgers has a 2-23 record against us. That is not a series record of a rivalry. I would like to know where you got the information that suggested that the Rutgers game was the highest rated northeast college football game in years anyways, because I (along with my friends/fellow students) can name a few games that have definitely ranked higher than that: 1) 2013 Penn State vs. Michigan that went into 4OT. 2) 2014 Ohio State vs. Michigan State. 3) Pinstripe Bowl?!? 4) 2014 Ohio State vs. Penn State. I could name more games but I feel like that would be highly unnecessary. Maybe that Rutgers game had the highest ratings ever in New Jersey, but I find it very difficult to believe that Rutgers achieved higher ratings than the Ohio State game or Penn State's first bowl since the sanctions were lifted.

4) These are our active rivalries: 1) Michigan State. 2) Ohio State. 3) Minnesota. 4) Pitt. With the exception of Pitt (who is our biggest rival), we are generally pleasant with out rivals and carry ourselves with class and dignity, as do they...because we RESPECT each other. All of those programs are historic and prestigious (you can go on about Rutgers being the birthplace of college football but...where's the national championships?). All of those schools, as well as Penn State, have a tradition of good football. We respect each other, we love playing each other, and it's always a good environment. Yes, there is that slight hint of animosity in there because all of those schools are our rivals but respect ALWAYS come first.

Rutgers shows absolutely no respect to us, they do not carry themselves with class, they represent themselves and the Big Ten in a poor fashion, their record against us is pitiful, and Penn Staters don't particularly care for Rutgers University anyways. Rutgers will never be on the caliber of the schools that we are rivals with, and we will never view them as a threat. We will never want to associate with the trash that is the Rutgers fanbase, and it would be greatly appreciated if people would just stop trying to force this false "rivalry." Maybe someday, if Rutgers begins to act like a real Big Ten institution and step their game up, we will be rivals but that is in the DISTANT future. Rivalries can't suddenly happen after one game. They develop as teams play each other and get more and more competitive as a mutual respect begins to develop. They aren't forced and automatically assumed because the fans shout profanity at the opposition and quite frankly carry themselves in a disgraceful way. No, maybe someday in the future when Rutgers actually gets its act together will it actually have a remote chance of developing into a rivalry. But as for right now? Rutgers has only been in the Big Ten for one year. People need to stop jumping on the bandwagon of trying to be rivals with Penn State because once we have fully recovered from the sanctions, you will understand what I mean when I say that Rutgers and Maryland are nowhere near Penn State's level. Please don't ever try to call Rutgers our rival again for the next 5-10 years. Please. If it's going to happen naturally then so be it, but it infuriates us to no end to have people constantly try to force rivalries with us. The only rival we truly need anyways is Pitt. 75.97.115.25 (talk) 09:54, 15 August 2015 (UTC)PSU Student