User talk:Fylindfotberserk/Archives/2019/February

Talk page blanking
Hi there, in case you didn't see my revert about this, users are allowed to remove warnings from their talk page. It is generally considered proof that they saw them. The essay you pointed to, Removing warnings, is no longer consistent with community preferences. (There are two notices about that at the very top of the page.) The relevant guidelines are at WP:BLANKING. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:07, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * My apologies, I missed the top notice. I saw the "historical reference" one. But sir, what if an editor continues with unconstructive edits after level 4 warning? If we report them to the AIV, wouldn't they be searching for a Level 4 warning in the reported editor's talk page? This user "Princessruby" has made an OR first by changing the "gross" and after I warned her, she deleted the Bollywood Hungama source for the worldwide gross after which I warned her with a level 4 vandalism. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Looks like she is at it again
 * Any time you report someone to AIV, you should also be including diffs and a clear explanation of what the problem is. When I used to do that, I would write stuff like:
 * "User ___ keeps vandalising the box office figures of ___.  . Here is the actual figure as reported by Times of India. I warned them four times   , but they vandalised the article again here: ."
 * If you include links to the warnings, that's how admins will know you've warned them. But note that you should only report a user to AIV if they are vandalising something. Merely having a difference of opinion or the editor being obnoxious or mildly disruptive isn't the same thing as vandalism. For those you should go to AIV. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:28, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Note: Re: this reversion, while you may not understand it, we had a discussion a lonnnnng time ago at WP:ICTF (see discussion) where we decided to include estimation tags before gross figures. This is because Indian film financial data is entirely made up of estimations. So if you are warning Princessruby not to add that template, that would not be consistent with consensus and you might want to withdraw that warning. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info sir. Whenever I report to AIV, I include edit diffs but not the diffs of warnings since I rarely come across users who deletes warnings as soon as given. As for this specific user, I was gonna talk to you first before reporting her since she is an experienced editor.


 * This reversion was not about that "Estimation" template. Actually her edit caused the Budget and Box office parameters to vanish from the read mode. Check her edit before my revert here. That's why that exclamation in the edit summary - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:02, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * And I didn't warn her after this edit of hers. I warned her before that specifically for removing Bollywood Hungama source for Worldwide Gross and replacing it with domestic gross source in this edit. I mentioned that in the Level 4 when I warned her - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:08, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah. Got it. When you submit diffs, please submit the diffs that show changes between previous versions. Compare this link you provided above to this diff. Here you can see what the page looked like before and after the user's edits. Note that it indicates that we're looking at three of her edits ("2 intermediate revisions by the same user not shown"). This is the kind of thing that you want to submit, rather than the link above, where we just see a static page. You can access these in a page's edit history, by clicking on "Prev". This compares the individual edit against the "prev"ious version of the page. You can also select a range of edits by using the radio buttons, then clicking "compare selected revisions". You would then copy/paste the resulting URL. Hope that helps. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:16, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Looking at some of the other links you provided, I guess you know how to do this, so my apologies for over-teaching. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Over teaching? Absolutely not sir. You probably is the most knowledgeable and kind editor I've seen in Wikipedia and that too an admin. I know you guys are very busy. Sir, if the "estimation" template is necessary, I can put it back. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:26, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:34, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Lock India page
I would request you to lock the country page of India to protect it from Vandalism. Srijanx22 (talk) 23:45, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Srijanx22 (talk) 18:15, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh
Sir i had removed the post of general secretary from RSS cuz this post isnt mentioned anywhere. Second i edited the post of Cheif cuz chief of RSS has a name i.e. Sarasanghchalaka. Thus it thought these were minor changes and didnt mentioned it. Regards:- Srijanx22 (talk) 06:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * I have deleted Joshi's name as per your suggestion (it is unsourced)
 * But you have deleted Hedgewar's name which I've re added.
 * Like in English media, "chief" is more suitable here for "Sarasanghchalaka".
 * Regards - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:18, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Sorry Sir the name of Hedgewar must be remobed mistakenly by me cuz I know he was the founder. Sir i would once again reiterate by point of using "Sarasanghchalaka" cuz they use it as their position.Even if english media use "chief".Because Sarasanghchalaka isnt a translation but a post itself. Plz reconsider yr decision. Regards:- Srijanx22 (talk) 23:41, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that the term is "Sarasanghchalaka" but in Wikipedia, commonly used name is used in the articles as per WP:COMMONNAME. Just as an example, in google, "RSS Chief" gets you 880 million hits while "RSS Sarsanghchalak" gets only 62 thousand hits. Anyway, I've added Sarsanghchalak but kept "Chief" as well within parenthesis. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:27, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank You sir for conidering my edits. Regards:- Srijanx22 (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

 * , Thanks man. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:12, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Draft-Beharia- Thank You for your nice greetings. Uploadsou14 (talk) 13:37, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

A pie for you!

 * Yeah, I've been reverting this vandal's edits for quite some time now. Requested page protection on 4 May 2018 on here for vandalizing Rashtrapati Bhavan, List of current presidents and List of state leaders in 2018 here, here and here. All Geolocated to Patna, Bihar. It seems protection for pages requested at RPP would be the only solution. And all he does now is add a few "empty spaces". And if we want we can temporarily protect Indian govt. related pages.


 * And thanks for the Pie - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. Please click the link above and add your thoughts there. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  09:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I did. Thanks - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:51, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Prayagraj Entomology
can i give hindi news website Citation for Entomology ?? Includents.h (talk) 10:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes you can. But I think you should keep the Allahabad etymology first since it has been the first official name of the City since the creation of Indian Republic. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:45, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

hmm.. but Entomology relates to the history of word and i think the history of Prayagraj is much older than Allahabad.. so.. India Is a Cultural and Historical Country with wide range of history and home of oldest civilisation still intact as other civilization and culture faded with revolution and envision but Indian didn't change but submerged others to it.. while entacting her own philosophy and way of life.. Includents.h (talk) 10:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Put the correct source for Etymology first. I believe the subsections need to be removed since the attempts of renaming it started much more recently. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:03, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

you said hindi source would work so i did it. don't blame me.. i have spent time on it to collect the citation from respected English and Hindi News channel for it. Includents.h (talk) 11:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

You should read the article more deeply before forming any opinion.Includents.h (talk) 11:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

why remove subsection ?? and you want to merge both Entomology ?? Includents.h (talk) 11:07, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Your edit here cites an English source only which doesn't explain why the name was "Prayag". So it is an original research and I reverted it. Put the Hindi source first. And I put the subsection but I think other articles like Chennai do not have etymology subsections and the other info on 'Prayag' i.e. the effort by BJP govt is a recent affair as per chronology. Add the hindi source first then I'll edit accordingly - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Okay But for your information Allahabad has been parallelly referred as Prayagraj as in my village each and every old person refer it as Prayagraj instead of Allahabad.. but whatever i will put the Citation and texts then edit as suited.. and Chennai isn't a part of deep history so we can't compare it logically. Includents.h (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Your own opinions doesn't matter here in Wikipedia. Wikipedia needs sources. And Chennai has been inhabited since Stone Age and coins dating back to 500 BC have been found there. Thiruvananthapuram is another example. Definitive sources point to trades as far back as 1036 BC. So reason to bring "whose city is older" kinda thing here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:28, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Ya I know that's why i have collect articles from News Source. So before reverting talk first.Includents.h (talk) 12:05, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Can you link the Hindi source here in my talk page? I'd like to see it - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:09, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Go and read the article i think I have fixed all loopholes with rational approach for that part. and Hindi reference is added so have a look at it.Includents.h (talk) 12:25, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Good decision.. saw the article.. now this matter is fixed. Includents.h (talk) 13:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

It is strange that every Hindi News channel of Uttar Pradesh and National News Channels of India refers to Prayagraj as Prayagraj.. If you have access to Indian Television Channels go and watch.. and My grandmother today went to Prayagraj for the holy mela of Kumbh she also referred to it as Prayag.. I think its main name should be Prayagraj and then Allahabad in brackets. I am saying on the basic of facts.. watch AajTak channel General Hindi Channel Now.. Includents.h (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Try to understand that the English Wikipedia works in a global platform and has its own set of rules and consensus. It needs substantial amount of time to change an article name as per WP:COMMONAME. Notice that the article on Bengaluru is still name as Bangalore despite the name change happened in 2014. Wait for some time when the word "Prayag" becomes more common in the world and the internet. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:42, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Hmm then Wikipedia will have to wait for a year or two to update the name.Includents.h (talk) 16:04, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Who knows? Would depend on the worldwide media. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:06, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

yepIncludents.h (talk) 16:10, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Vikas Gupta
Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Staryash#February_2019 Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vikas_Gupta_(producer)&oldid=882523184

Vikas was my fellow at the University. - What would be the correct way, so that complete information is available? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Staryash (talk • contribs) 14:47, 13 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia needs reliable sources to support any information that has been put in an article. Kindly go through WP:RS. If you find anything, link it to me. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

who do you think you are?
You think this is India, where you can say Indo-Aryan and revert other people's edits with impunity?

Native town implies birth. Do you have any proof Gurdas was born as Hindu, or are you going to try and steal all of our talent as you've always have.

You do realise that the majority of the world LAUGHS at the notion of Indo-Aryan, right? What is your education? You're not the first to revert+threat other people when they challenge your Hindu-centric perception, and you won't be the last.

What will you do when all of the QE runs out, and SHRI MODI JI can't blast Here Comes the Hotstepper in his MARSADEE that he purchased on US-denominated, debt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.154.39 (talk) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

edit: I've had it with you, Hindu. Your ass is going straight to the adminstration board. You're out of control. You think you have the right to steal our heritage because Michael Bloomberg has brought you to AMREEKA in large numbers. Let me tell you something: the entire world is not like your BOLLYWOOD fantasy that many of your friends have lived out in AMREEKA, do you understand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.154.39 (talk) 03:51, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Baseless Hindu-centric edits made by User:Fylindfotberserk on Gurdas Maan. TheMesquito buzz  04:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not the one that reported you, I'm just notifying you! TheMesquito  buzz  04:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Re:A kitten for you!
Hello User:Fylindfotberserk, thank you for the kitten and for your talk page message! You are correct in your inference that users are not allowed to remove entries that are made by others, as User:Blamen2 did. Fortunately, it looks like the complaint was restored by another user. If User:Blamen2 is indeed using other accounts to edit war, the appropriate step to take would be to file a report at WP:SPI. As you requested, I have left my comments on the talk page of the article favouring keeping the source, since the information therein is corroborated by other academic sources in the article. I hope this helps. With warm regards, AnupamTalk 22:20, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm not Blamen2, Anupam. It was Nsmutte as specified on Fylind's complaint by Bonadea who Blamen2 also imitated. This is the third time I have to say I'm not him. Blamen1 (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments in support of keeping the source. I only have issues with the timelines mentioned in the source in question. If the source is corroborated by other academic sources
 * within the article, then I believe, it can be kept.
 * Thanks for notifying me about this and thank you very much for liking the kitten. :) - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:39, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Not everything is corroborated and a few details that are can't correct the faults that extend beyond timelines. Minahan wasn't even characterizing Kalash religion for which it's used, but that of Nuristanis'. I hope you reconsider. Blamen1 (talk) 10:43, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Low level Vandalism
At The Wire (India). Please watchlist, if possible. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:14, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
 * OK I'll keep an eye. Am suffering from flu and was bedridden for the last few days so. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:42, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Please take care of your health. Wish you a very speedy recovery. Complete the full dosage cycle of the antibiotic medicines. Best wishes for you to get well soon. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It is very kind of you to say so. Thank you - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Ring names vs nicknames
Please do not revert to versions of articles that present nicknames as ring names. Sorry if you were the one who spent time adding these, but the additions are completely and utterly flawed. The article name is Rick Rude because that was his ring name, rather than "Ravishing" Rick Rude. Similarly, the ring name is Bret Hart, not Bret "Hitman Hart". Triple H has three nicknames: "The Game", "King of Kings" and "Cerebral Assassin" - are they all ring names? No. Glad we've cleared that up. JuniorDoan (talk) 21:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Allahabad revert
I have restored the article to the last stable version to fix the broken infobox. User:Fylindfotberserk please feel free to recover content that was apt and got caught in this revert. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  09:50, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * , Only the Etymology section. Don't worry I'll re add it. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * thx-- D Big X ray ᗙ  10:15, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

The Reason @ Lucknow
The 'see also' section of Lucknow was edited due to wrong redirection of the page (List of malls in Lucknow). Whereas, the page was redirected to 'list of malls in India'. The list barely contained any mall of Lucknow (2 Malls). The page (list of malls in India) itself is not sufficient for the info and lacks the content. Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upanshu upanshu (talk • contribs) 13:23, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You have removed the portal as well. And didn't explain anything in the edit summary. You are correct regarding "List of malls in Lucknow". I've changed the entry to "Fun Republic Mall" as there's only one mall from Lucknow in the list. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:56, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!! I apologize for not providing the summary. Upanshu upanshu 20:46, 24 February 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upanshu upanshu (talk • contribs)
 * You are welcome. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:44, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Re:Blamen1/Kalash article
Dear User:Fylindfotberserk, thanks for your message on my talk page. As I mentioned on the talk page of the article, I think the text authored by Minahan meets WP:RS as its published by ABC-CLIO, and the information contained in the quote parameter of the reference is corroborated by other references in the article. That being said, if others on that talk page wish for the source to be removed, I will honour that consensus. If you wish to start a formal RfC, however, I will participate and share my thoughts there, though it seems we already have input from others about the issue. My main contention would be if User:Blamen1 attempted to remove other references in the article that properly characterize the religious beliefs of the Kalash; others have tried to do this before, exhibiting a pattern of nationalistic editing behaviour sometimes seen in articles related to India-Pakistan-Afghanistan topics. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 20:55, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * It seems it would be better to remove the source. Uanfala has also said the same thing.. As for ...others have tried to do this before, exhibiting a pattern of nationalistic editing behaviour sometimes seen in articles related to India-Pakistan-Afghanistan topics., I totally agree with you. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

I never had any issues with other sources or the ancient Hinduism part. My only problem is with Minahan due to its poor research and not even mentioning the faith of Kalash which a publisher name (which too is not always reliable) cannot correct. I hope that eliminates any apprehensions. Blamen1 (talk) 12:46, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
 * ,, , I've removed the Minahan source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)