User talk:GR MANOS

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Welcome!
Hi, I noticed you added an episode listing to Trigun, however you may not have noticed we already have one linked under the Trigun section: See also Trigun anime episode list.

In coming to tell you that, I notice you have a big image from kiminozo on your user page. Wikipedia is very fussy about copyright - as this image is clearly (labeled at bottom) as copyright of Studio Fantasia and Key, and does not fall under fair use when displayed on a page unrelated to either, it might be best to delete it. Maybe you can draw a picture yourself to replace it! See Image use policy for more information.

Oh, and have a generic Template:Welcome just in case you need pointers on anything else wikipedia related. --zippedmartin 17:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

First of all thanks for the welcome and for your correction in trigun article.

Obviously I didn't noticed that. ;) You should add a separate section for the episodes as you did for the characters. People may not notice the link. The pic clearly states that KGNE characters are copyrights of Studio Fantasia. The creator of KGNE and not the creator of the wallpaper. So if it's illegal to have this pic in my user page, then it's illegal to have the Trigun pics in the Trigun section. Keep in mind that many anime, manga, movie pics in Wikipedia are taken directly from the source (DVD, manga). For example:



Obviously, it's not illegal. Company wont sue you for this, because obviously with that way you promote it's product. It doesn't mention anywhere about a company named Key. On the other hand it mention the name Kev (not Key). This is the creator of the wallpaper. If you visit the web site that is mentioned in the bottom of the wallpaper, you will notice that the web site doesn't mention anywhere that it doesn't allow the use of these pics in any other web pages as other similar web sites mention. Obviously this pic is tagged as "PD" and I have the right to use it as I wish. I'm not the only one that uses unrelated pics in his/her user page. I have seen many admins pages with unrelated pics. So I think they don't mind to use this pic in my user page. GR_MANOS 20:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The Trigun article does indeed still need a fair bit of work to make it comfortably readable, I'm kinda doing it at a rate of about a sentence a week. :)
 * Eh, I did misread that notice - if I'd looked it up I'd have seen the kiminozo h game was by Age not Key. Needless to say, 'Kev' has no grounds for copyrighting his wholley derivative work, so that notice is basically irrelevant. Now while of course he's not going to get sued for making it, that alone does not mean it's legal - something which wikipedia has to be fussy about. If you click that Trigun image you'll see it has the tag, giving the following notice:


 * Every image uploaded to wikipedia should have a message like that that describes the copyright - those without may be deleted without warning. Now, if we look at what that fair use page says, particularly the stuff like "nonprofit educational purposes" - which is generally taken to include book covers displayed for the purpose of illustrating an article, but not a (modified) design just for decoration of a user page. It's fun I know, and in practice of course no one is going to be in court over it, but the policy is reasonably clear. Anyway, just a prior warning so you understand what it's about. --zippedmartin 01:00, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Ancient Greek phonology
Hello, Manos, I see that you are interested in the Ancient Greek languge. Maybe you could help us out here. We have a big discussion on the phonology of Ancient Greek, in particular the Attic dialect spoken by Plato, Aristotle etc. You can join the discussion if you wish at Talk:Ancient Greek phonology. However, the main reason that I am approaching you is to ask you if you could help us out in citing some sources. Because many of us live outside Greece, we cannot get hold of the following books:

Ανδριώτης Ν., Ιστορική γραμματική της αρχαίας Ελληνικής. Μέρος Α': Φωνητική (Πανεπιστημιακές Παραδόσεις), Θεσσαλονίκη 1969

Συμεωνίδης Χ., Ιστορική γραμματική της αρχαίας Ελληνικής. Μέρος Α': Φωνητική (Πανεπιστημιακές Παραδόσεις), Εκδοτικός Οίκος Αφών Κυριακίδη, Θεσσαλονίκη 1989.

and any other Greek sources on the phonology of the Attic dialect. Also: do you still have your high school text book? Does it say anything about the pronounciation of beta, gamma, and delta in classical times?

What we are looking for is something like this: (excerpt Talk:Ancient Greek phonology)

In the Συνοπτική ιστορία της ελληνικής γλώσσας (Summary History of the Greek Language, Αθήνα 1986), Γεώργιος Μπαπμινιώτης (George Babiniotis) describes the transition from ancient to Koine Greek as involving structural transformations at all linguistic levels (p 114), and goes into some detail on the phonological changes, starting with the vowels (p 115), diphthongs (p 116), and then consonants (p 120). There is an 8-page discussion of the transition from ancient to Koine sounds. There is a table of the ancient sounds and spellings (p <π> / b <β> / pH <φ> etc.) and the late Alexandrian sounds and spellings (p <π> / b <μβ/μπ> / v <β> / f <φ> etc.) with some detail about the different times and dialects when these changes happened (not all simultaneously).

I assunme that you have access to a Greek university library.We would particulary be interested in scholarly articles in this subject written by Greek linguists. Andreas 22:03, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Disambiguating seaQuest DSV
Hello there...

I have a passion for cleaning up links from redirect pages, and I was working on seaQuest DSV redirects. Your link to Seaquest DSV is to a redirect page. The page is at "seaQuest DSV". Please change it when you can.

Lady Aleena 10:09, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

manos, would you really think that he if he is a greek that he would play for a macedonian club? and even a nationalistic one? did you think he would ever carry such a bagand would play in a area surrounded with these flags?if he was a greek? i dont think so, and so do you, so please stop your crap and accept it. oh yeah, his name was Lazareski or Lazar, untill 1913, when the greeks started to force macedonians to change their last names into greek sounding ones, just like you renamed all the cities into greek ones, so that shit you are saying about these last names is based on nothing. --Makedonia 19:51, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Geia
Kai meis ellhnika milame pote-pote. Astous, 3erw ti eipane kai den me noiazei. (Aytos prepei na einai pragmati skopianos). Erxesai syxna? Blepw araies syneisfores... N i k o S il v e r  (T) @ (C) 22:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

(Aytos prepei na einai pragmati skopianos)

?????

GR_MANOS 01:39 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

Exo na patiso s'auto to ilithio site, edo kai 1 xrono. Mlk ine. Opios theli grafi oti tou kapnisi. Efiga giati den antexa na diavazo mlks. Tora tixea girisa. Epsaxna gia ton omogeni mas kai me to google vrethika stin Wikipedia. Den antexa kai ekana post. Pali kala pou thimomoun kai to pass mou. :p Alla apo oti vlepo ap' to kako sto xiroteo pai i Wikipedia. Megali mlk. Proselikii olous tous mlks. (down) To xirotero ine oti auti i ilithi, pistevoun auta pou grafoun. :lol: Ti kopani. Na sou po tin alithia, tous psilolipame. Prepi na ise telios ilithios gia na pistevis tetia pragmata.

GR_MANOS 01:44 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006


 * Etsi einai pragmati. Des th sxetikh yposelida mou gia na katalabeis. Th shmaia kai thn tsanta pou krataei thn eides sth fwtografia h' einai ki ayth moufa?  N i k o S il v e r   (T) @ (C) 22:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Ti enois???

GR_MANOS 02:11 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006


 * Parapanw sou exei balei dyo syndeseis se fwtografies o xrhsths pou to onoma tou einai to onoma pou 8eloun gia th xwra tous. Des tis fwtografies. H' aytes einai moufa, h' aytos 3erei ti leei.  N i k o S il v e r   (T) @ (C) 23:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

"o xrhsths pou to onoma tou einai to onoma pou 8eloun gia th xwra tous"

Exipno. ;). Pragmatiki foto ine. Alla den mporo na po me veveotita an ine autos. Alla sigoura tha ixe tetia tsanta. Alla auto den simeni oti ine slavos. Des ti tou egrapsa stin diki tou selida. Pistepse me. Den iparxi kamia amfivolia gia tin Ellinikotita tou. Min kathese kai pistevis tis mlk pou lene. Exo akousi mlks. Gia paradigma, enas mia fora egrafe stin istioselida tou oti i Alexandroupoli den legotan Alexandroupoli, alla Alexandria kai tin ixe idrisi o Megas Alexandros, alla i kaki i Ellines, otan piran ta edafi to allaxan to onoma kai to ekanan Alexandroupoli. Ela mou nte omos pou o mlks den gnorize pos i Alexandroupoli dimiourgithike meta Xristo (prin 2 aiones an thimame kala). :lol: Eki evala ta gelia... milame gia tonous vlakias. Stin arxi, den gnoriza oti i Skopiani elegan teties mlks kai kathe vradi serfara sto net, mono kai mono gia na gelaso me tis mlk pou egrafan. Auta...

GR_MANOS 03:01 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006


 * En toiayth periptwsei, isws bohuhsoun aytes oi dyo oudeteres Aystralianes phges pou tou egrapse o Greasysteve13 sthn selida tou...  N i k o S il v e r   (T) @ (C) 08:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Ego ixa kani post autes tis piges stin discussion page tou Stan.

Quote ap'ton Greasysteve13:

"And here are some sources people (emena enoi :p) have pointed out implying he is Greek:"

Mou fenete pos den diavases auta pou egrapsa ston Slavo, stin talk page tou.

"6. Also, I posted 2 sources in the talk page of Stan Lazaridis, in which referred to Lazaridis as an Australian of Greek origin. They were both from Australian web sites."

GR_MANOS 12:12 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

Pio poli voithai auti i selida: http://www.footballdatabase.com/site/players/index.php?dumpPlayer=1422

S' auti ti selida fenete kathara oti ine Ellino-Australos. Exi os 2ri ethnikotita tin Elliniki, eno exi paixi kai gia 5 xronia se Ellinikes omades stin Australia. Opote den isxii oti ine Slavos. Aplos o anthropos den ine ratsistis. ;) Den gnorizo posa xronia ekatse stin slaviki omada, alla pige se Elliniki omada ap' ta 19a tou. Opote den nomizo na ekatse kai polla xronia se autin tin omada. Oxi pos exi simasia posa xronia kathise kai an epaize se Elliniki h' se Slaviki omada. Aplos o Slavos dini megali simasia s' auta ta themata, me mono skopo na mas pi mlks. Opos akrivos kani kai stin user page tou. Gia des ti tou egrapsa sxetika me tis mlks pou lei gia tou arxaious makedones kai to oti den ine Ellines. Ine to proteleuteo topic stin talk page tou.

Telos pistevo to oti afou exi 2ri ethnikotita tin Elliniki to thema prepi na theorite lixan. Ine Ellino-Australos. Pos na to kanoume vre aderfe...

GR_MANOS 12:21 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

Hi
In english please. :-) Vlatko 12:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Are you going to translate it??? GR_MANOS 01:45 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

english pleasE??:) haha and YOU are saying that to me? look above.--Makedonia 22:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

You must to be kidding. MatriX post within my topic (“Are you getting confused with the Macedonian history or something??”). I can't understand that language. So there is no point to post something in my topic, if I can't understand it. On the other hand, NikoSilver started a new topic (Geia = Hello in Greek) in order to welcome me in Wikipedia. So NikoSilver isn't "obligate" to write in English. On the other hand, MatriX should write in English if he replies to someone that he can't understand his language. Except if he didn’t reply to me and then you should move his post to another topic.

GR_MANOS 02:06 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

manos, your last edit is better, and i am willing to accept that version, however it would be fair if you add or let me add the Category:Macedonian Australians on his page, just as you did for Greek-australians category. --Makedonia 16:49, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Done.

GR_MANOS 19:58 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

I didn't add the Greek Macedonian category. Someone else did.

GR_MANOS 19:59 (GMT+2), 31 May 2006

Makedonia
Γεια, βλέπω ότι προσπαθείς να συνεννοηθείς με τον Makedonia. Μην προσπαθείς, και εγώ έχω προσπαθήσει, μάταιο είναι. Και εγώ αυτά για τον πληθυσμό της "Ενωμένης Μακεδονίας" του έχω πει, και ξέρεις τι μου είπε; Ότι θα διώξουν τους Έλληνες, όπως έκαναν οι Έλληνες όταν "κατέκτησαν" τη Μακεδονία μετά τους Βαλκανικούς πολέμους. Όταν σου πει αυτό, απάντα με αυτό που του είπα εγώ (User talk:Makedonia). --Telex 19:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

To xero. To diavasa. Ego den prospatho na ton piso na pi oti exo dikio. Ego prospatho na tou dixo tin alithia gia na siniditopiisi mesa tou oti auta pou diavazi ine mparoufes. Gia auto aloste tou tonizo oti i piges pou postari, alla kai ta site ap'ta opia perni ta propagandistika kimena, antifaskoun metaxi tous.

To ketektisan giati to evales se isagogika??? Afou kataktisame to 51% tis Makedonias. Fisika tis perioxis Makedonias kai oxi xoras, afou den ipirxe kamia xora me to onoma Makedonia. ;)

GR_MANOS 00:27 (GMT+2), 2 June 2006

opa opa katastrofa:)
I and We macedonians are the Descendants of the Ancient Macedonians, especially the macedonians from southern rep. of macedonia, We Macedonians live and have lived in Macedonia for over 4000 years, Untill the break up of Macedonia in 1913 this region was for 90% inhabited by Macedonians, After the Treaty of Bucarest, you the Greeks were brought in from Asia Minor, to live and settle in Macedonia due to the Treaty of Lausanne.

Aristotle was born in Stageira, a city in Macedonia, he was Macedonian, however Hellenism was the known civilized world back then, so he went to the big civilized Athens probably at age 18, Became a pupil of Plato, He was Hellenized, Hellenic Philosophy, Hellenic Intellectuality. Do keep in mind that Greece didnt exist in those days, you had the Ancient city states like Athens, Sparta etc. these Made up the Hellenic World, Macedonia was a Seperate Kingdom, Kingdom of Macedonia, of course Macedonia wanted to be a part of that known world back then, The Hellenistic world. but that doesnt mean, Macedonians were the same people as Athenians or Spartans, they were Macedonians.

the map you are showing, if you look good in the left corner above, you see in the legend a Purple Colour box, next to it there is written: Greece, and Greek OCCUPIED MACEDONIAN LAND. those regions on the halkidiki peninsula was not Greek land, it was Macedonian land conquered by Greece, same as the Greek occupied land you see in the Right corner above.

On you Reacting on our UNITED MACEDONIA supports, a United Macedonia and your statements are probably a real "Thorn in your Eye". Otherwise if you just see it as stupid nonsense propaganda, you and your fellow greeks would not react and that even multiple times about that topic. In a Couple of Years the Treaty of Bucarest will end, and then Macedonia will Gain their rights for getting back what belongs to her. of course i am not sure it will really happen, but i believe in it and i strongly support it. If there will be a Greek Majority as your buddy telex says, let them live there, no problem so long they dont make any problems, but i think most of them will move out of the country by themselves anyway, just like Serbs are moving out of Kosovo in the last few years.

As for the Genetic research, they've compared Greeks with Ethiopians and other meditteranean peoples with eachother, and its shows that Greeks have similar genes with Ethiopians ;)

I am Sick and Tired of Discussing with such Greeks as you, Greeks for whom Macedonia, Macedonians and Macedonian History is a "Thorn in their eyes" ever since the existence of these 2 peoples. You will never agree with me, and i will never agree with you, time will show the truth, already the real truth is getting known more and more everyday, Greeks are losing control on the history they've stolen.

but well i am glad many many Greeks are the opposite of you, those many greeks do like us, do see us as descendants of ancient macedonians, do accept our history and dont have any problem with our macedonian existence.

only Greek politicians are making problems, but on the other side, of course they do, cause if the truth will get out, the whole Greek nation seems to be based on nothing but lies. them and the bunch of greeks who are filled with their governments propaganda.

oh yeah, i did not remove them because of your statements, i removed them because else my page would have been blocked or removed.--Makedonia 23:08, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Personally, I believe that the Macedonian ethnic group of FYROM is Tito's invention out of a Serb-occupied western Bulgarian population. No one had ever heard of a Macedonian ethnicity prior to Tito, and this "we are the descendents of the ancient Macedonians" claim is ridiculous. Are just the Macedonian Slavs the descendents of the ancient Macedonians? What about everyone else living in the region? Did the ancient Macedonians carefully vet with whom they bred, maybe? I'm sorry to disappoint you, Makedonia, but if you are basing your connection to the ancient Macedonians on genes, then you'll have to stand in the queue - all other ethnic groups in the region probably have genes from the ancient Macedonians: Greeks, Albanians, Bulgarians (the ones not brainwashed by Tito), Serbs, Vlachs, Turks, even Gypsies. In my opinion, ethnicity is based on language and culture, in which case you have no connection to the ancient Macedonians, as no Slav ever met an ancient Macedonian. By the time the Slavs arrived in Macedonia, all they found was Greeks (Even Britannica confirms it) - the ancient Macedonian ethnicity, whoever they may have been - had long vanished from the face of the earth. --Telex 23:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, that genes "research" was widely discredited and ridiculed by the scientific community as lacking scientific merit (click here), apparently, according to that, the Japanese also have sub-Saharan origins. If you are into genes research, try reading this, much more credible. --Telex 23:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

POLL
No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the function.

Please weigh in at Wikipedia talk:Footnotes! N i k o S il v e r  (T) @ (C) 21:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Politis wrote this in my talk:


 * LOL...! By the way, estila kati sto regarding Lazarides.


 * Read the links. N i k o S il v e r   (T) @ (C) 22:11, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

sorry
hey man i'm sorry about olympiacos i wanted to upload a pic of mine the new modern logo i found at uefa.com but i failed.thanx for correcting it.

cool
hey man cool.i was just testing it.i left it gay for something about 5 secs.then i did it olympiacos and olympiakos.cool.just cool.

and another Poll...
Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :N i k o S il v e r: 21:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)
Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :N i k o S il v e r:  22:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

2 Polls that may be of interest...
Hey, kindly check: Thanks. :N i k o S il v e r: 01:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Articles for deletion/Misconceptions about Iran
 * Articles for deletion/Ehud Olmert and Iran

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Σκοπιανή προπαγάνδα.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Makedonia#Could_some_wikipedia_user_please_remove_the_offensive_and_inflamatory_picture_on_the_user_page.21

Τα παραπάνω έγραψα σε χρήστη ο οποίος περιείχε υπό τη σημαία των σκοπίων την ευρήτερη περιοχή της μακεδονίας, Θεσσαλονίκη, Χαλκιδική κλπ., θα ήθελα τη στήριξη σου σε αυτό ώστε να μη δύναται ο κάθε τυχάρπαστος να δημοσιεύει εικόνα με τα σύνορα της χώρας μας κατειλλημένα και να ισχυρίζεται μάλιστα ότι επιθυμεί μία ενωμένη ειρινική μακεδονία. Αυτά τα διαβάζουν και άνθρωποι εκτός Ελλάδος και Σκοπίων οι οποίοι δε γνωρίζουν περισσότερα και συνεπώς μπορεί να πέσουν θύματα προπαγάνδας.

arxelaos
as mathoun epitelous aytoi oi slavoi ligh istoria —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.67.215 (talk) 18:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)