User talk:Gadfium/Archive 11

Richard Worth Cabinet/ MP sidebar details
Given that Richard Worth is now an ex-NZ Cabinet Minister and ex-MP as well, should the Cabinet, MP and affiliations sidebar be quite so detailed? Is there any way to prune it back? Calibanu (talk) 06:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)User Calibanu
 * There is a discussion relevant to this at WP:NZWNB (and if you don't already watch that page, I suggest you consider doing so). The discussion started about a different table in NZ politician articles, but has moved on to the main infobox.- gadfium 06:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Background
Thought you'd be interested in the background behind that silly edit you reverted here. See this, and then this in which  IP 208..... leaves me a message saying my IP is 123...., but it is reverted by Michael, the banned user. Probably all three are Michael. Certainly the IP 123 is the editor who did the dopey edit to Talk NZ which you reverted, and then did this one to the Ngai Tahu page. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 04:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Project Gastropods
Thanks so much for stepping in with some suggestions Gadfium. I appreciate all the help I can get with prepping for the conference. Do you happen to have any idea how I could get a table like that into a PowerPoint presentation? Do you suppose I can directly use a screen grab in some way, or do I need to re-create the table myself, or whatever parts of it I am interested in? Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 11:53, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

NZOMC
There you go. Have a look at the map again and see if that's better. Kelisi (talk) 20:29, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

File:MargaretWilson.jpg listed for deletion
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Removal of PROD from 1963-64 New Zealand rugby union tour of the British Isles, Ireland, France and North America
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Māori migration
Thought you might find this interesting. --Geronimo20 (talk) 09:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * That link doesn't work for me; it presumably is dependant on a cookie it has set for your browser. If you give me the journal, title and author I can probably get access to it one way or another.- gadfium 10:25, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Rongo T, Bush M and van Woesik R (2009) "Did ciguatera prompt the late Holocene Polynesian voyages of discovery?" Journal of Biogeography, 36 (8) 1423-1432.--Geronimo20 (talk) 10:57, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've read the abstract, and it's interesting, but I'll need to chase up a Uni student to get access to the full article and at the moment I'm not involved in any work on Polynesian migrations.- gadfium 20:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Here's a press release: Voyages of discovery or necessity? Fish poisoning may be why Polynesians left paradise PhysOrg.com, 18 May 2009. --Geronimo20 (talk) 03:10, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't find it all that convincing. It may have been one factor among many; overpopulation was surely another major factor. It also suggests that Polynesians had to be forced to explore beyond the horizon, yet my understanding is that Polynesians systematically explored the Pacific Ocean, in part by sailing into the predominant wind so that they could easily return to their origin should no land be discovered, and Polynesian navigation was extremely sophisticated for a pre-literate society.


 * History of New Zealand skims over a complex and widely debated subject. It appears likely that several voyages were made to New Zealand, the first perhaps 2,000 years ago (evidence for this being the rat population), but no settlement until about 13th century CE. Settlement might have been 1-200 years earlier, but it's hard to believe the land was settled for a full thousand years without archaeological evidence being found. I've just asked a friend for a copy of, which I don't recall having read but seems to sum up views I've taken on board from other documents I've seen over the last decade including surveys in the NZ archeological journals.- gadfium 03:43, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I now have both papers.- gadfium 04:31, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


 * If strong evidence can be found that prolonged harmful algal blooms coincided with the voyages then it is at least suggestive. On the other hand, does there really need to be any reason for the explorations other than a sufficient period of time and intrinsic human curiosity. Might it not have been the opposite - no overpopulation, no poisonings, but a too easy life, healthy fit young bored lads, curious and wanting challenges? --Geronimo20 (talk) 09:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's unlikely that there will be sufficiently close dating of either the algal blooms or the voyages to prove anything one way or the other. The idea of exploration for its own sake - whether driven by boredom or a sense of adventure - is much more appealing.- gadfium 09:17, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Adelaide
Fair enough. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Gastropods table
Thanks so much Gadfium for your help. To find out how long it would take, I tried running the bot yesterday evening. It took less than 5 minutes or so to put together the table. I appreciate your helpful assistance! Invertzoo (talk) 12:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

That Gastropod presentation
Hi again Gadfium. I have the PowerPoint slides for my talk in PDF form. Do you know, can I perhaps put that on a subpage of mine here maybe? or something? I don't have my own website to post it on. Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 11:53, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I've replied at User talk:Invertzoo- gadfium 20:41, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks so much for your help Gadfium, a pdf of the slide show is here now:. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 14:54, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Anon IP Vandal
HI Gadfium,

I don't know if it's a processing glitch, but that anon IP vandal (64.157.something or other) seems to continue to vandalize. According to what my page says, you blocked him about an hour ago, but he's still made edits. Is this a glitch somewhere in my computer or on my end of the internet? Frmatt (talk) 03:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I blocked one address in that range about three weeks ago, and the block had expired. I've renewed it for another month. The vandal has used at least two other similar IP addresses in the last day; I've blocked one of those but will see how rapidly they jump between IPs.- gadfium 04:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm going to leave the MotoGP article on my watchlist for the next little while and I'll keep an eye out as well. Frmatt (talk) 04:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:OutrageousFortune.jpg)
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Mirror Lakes
Good catch. Stunning understatement. Thanks, --Stepheng3 (talk) 05:33, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
okay thanks friend.

--BlueLankan (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for cats
Thanks for your work categorizing stuff. ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:24, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Mount Aspiring/Tititea links
Thanks for fixing the links to Mount Aspiring/Tititea. XLerate (talk) 07:21, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

TV schedule reversions
I'm going to ask you to please stop your reversions that reinsert the schedules. Policy on this is clear; "an article on a ... station should not list ... current schedules". It doesn't get any clearer than that. If you want to change policy on this, then please take it up at WT:NOT. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have replied on your talk page. I do not believe you have correctly read consensus, but I do not intend to revert you again.- gadfium 23:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Please see, Wikipedia_talk:What_Wikipedia_is_not. User:Hammersoft is leading the call to delete these sections. Ikip (talk) 19:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I have already commented there.- gadfium 20:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to Article Resscue Squadron
I felt you maybe interested in this group. It took me four years to find this organization, after dozens of my pages were deleted. My only regret in joining is that it was not sooner.

Leon Smith - Karma around the world
Remember to check an article's history before a prod. This was deprodded in June. Fences &amp;  Windows  23:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
 * My mistake. Thanks for saving me the trouble of creating an AFD for it.- gadfium 23:39, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Clara Bloodgood
hi, I appreciate your edit. In fact the Bloodgood page wasn't a blog and I felt it was sufficient enough to avail to wiki readers since Bloodgood and her suicide is obscure today and she doesn't have a wikipedia page. It was well known at the time, 1907, as she was a famous actress. The New York Times, I have found, is not always entirely accurate. Most of the time the NYT is very helpful but sometimes they get dates mixed up. Since Bloodgood lived and worked in New York her suicide is in the NYTimes and probably in several other New York papers, that are now defunct ie the New York Herald, the New York World. But I digress. Thank you for your time and concern. It's been helpful. Koplimek (talk) 01:01, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Hutt Valley High School
Hello there again, you might remember me from contributions to the Newlands College article. I need your help and opinion. Do you think that the Hutt Valley High School article is a bit too negative? I realise that it's not blatant attacks, but I think it's a bit too harsh on the school. Ffgamera - My page! | Talk to me! | Contribs 11:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * My preference in these matters is not to remove the sourced material because it is negative towards the school, but to expand the material on school history to improve the overall balance. For an example of this, see my edits in early March at Taradale High School.


 * The case at Hutt Valley High seems more serious than the case at Taradale; it occurred on school property and in school hours, it was more recent so many students at the time will still be students there now, and the response of the school appears to have drawn some criticism. This article already has a substantial history section, so I suggest that you move the two controversial sections into the history section, rather than them being emphasised by having their own sections, and perhaps reduce the three paragraphs in the first of those sections down to one. Some of the material in the "School" section should also be moved to "History".


 * It might also be appropriate to add a paragraph explaining what measures the school put in place to prevent such incidents occurring again, and to rectify problems identified in the ERO report. Such a paragraph would need reliable sources, which might be hard to find.- gadfium 19:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm attempting to fix it now, but one comment I would like to make is that Newlands College has had these sort of things happen, but they are very rare. But including it into the article would tone the school down quite far. Ffgamera - My page! | Talk to me! | Contribs 01:00, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Pavlova
I have reverted back to my edit, expanded, and provided references, my apologies for forgetting to do this. Taymaishu (talk) 05:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

Discussion and poll on reviewer usergroup criteria
You may be interested in a discussion and poll I've started to decide the criteria that will be used for promoting users to the reviewer group at Wikipedia talk:Reviewers - please put your comments there. AndrewRT(Talk) 17:56, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting image names
There is an image which I want to use in an article. Unfortunately, there is another image on the English Wikipedia with the same name. Do you know how I can get to use the commons image? --Geronimo20 (talk) 01:47, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe it is not currently possible to rename images on Wikipedia. There was a trial earlier this year but some bugs were found. I do not have a move link for image files. Files need to be re-uploaded and then the original deleted. On en.wikipedia, there is a template Rename media to request that this be done, but I believe that this just puts the request into a queue for when the rename functionality is re-enabled, which may be a long time away.


 * Commons has Commons:File renaming, but I don't know whether such requests are promptly acted on, and renaming the image on Commons might lead to problems on other wikis.


 * You might ask at the help desk in case I'm missing some obvious solution, or follow the advice at WP:EFAQ of uploading the guitar picture under a new name, changing the link at Bass guitar, and nominating the existing image for deletion. You should talk to User:Lothar1976 first, as they uploaded the original guitar image, so as not to step on any toes.- gadfium 02:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that, Gadfium. I did ask earlier at the help desk. I will follow your advice and have notified Lothar1976. --Geronimo20 (talk) 03:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Quiet word needed
Hey Gadfium, an admin needs to have a word with User:Abe001 who created Paraire Tomoana with a (mainly) cut and paste of this entry in Dictionary Of New Zealand Biography. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 23:36, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. Abe appears to be a well meaning editor, and if you have time he might benefit from a more friendly approach than the template I just dropped on his talk page. Perhaps you could offer to assist with the rewriting of the article.- gadfium 23:48, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Cartwright
Hi Gadfium. The allegation that over 30 women dies as a result of the conservative treatment program at NWH is entirely false. I am busy putting together a list of references to prove this and will send it through to you when it is complete. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sam422 (talk • contribs) 01:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Invasion of the Waikato
I see you have taken an interest in this page so will pose a question for you. "Two river steamers that between them could transport 6000 men" I probably wrote that originally but now I feel it should have read 600 men. Any thoughts on the matter? ping (talk) 07:10, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, somehow an extra zero got included. I've fixed it, and placed a reference to what I assume was the original source.- gadfium 07:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Lou Tellegen
Hi, there were reports that Tellegen removed his own heart. How could he do this? one can't complete a HariKari(removing heart or any other vital organ) and live to tell about it which is obvious by the nature of the act. You may only initiate HariKari and then die from wounds. By nature HariKari could only be an intiated act, not a completed act. those are my thoughts. thanks. Koplimek (talk) 03:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gaddfium
McCaffrey and defamation. No problems with getting the discussion somewhere other than the article, or the talk page. Archiving fine. However, two points. Firstly - and this is partly my fault for choosing a bland title - I would appreciate it if the wording of the title did enable people to find my address for service easily. If someone has accused me of defaming them, I don't want to give the impression I'm hiding. Would you mind if I changed the title from "puffery" to say "Te Atatu dispute". Secondly, I know you are using the phrase "no reliable soures" as a term of art, but it could possibly be more sensitively phrased as something like "no citable source that meets Wikipedia criteria". I winced slightly at the unintended implication I'm unreliable, and suspect Mr McCaffrey would have even stronger views :-)

Thanks, Kit Boyes (talk) 10:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I've made the changes you suggest. My intention here is to prevent any to and fro on the talk page, as the dispute is really nothing to do with Wikipedia.- gadfium 19:28, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gadfium, agree completely about getting it out of the encyclopedia - In the unlikely event of anyone googling my name it's proabably not the best hit to come up :-). Utterly non-noteable in any event, though that is a criteria for articles not trivial content isn't it... anyway thank you for the changes and spologies for bothering you - would have been much better to just contact the author of that edit / Dan McCaffrey direct, but of course no contact details were left.  Thanks again for your assistance, Kit Boyes (talk) 20:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC).

Auckland City an Air New Zealand
Gadfium, you should have continued the discussion instead of removing the Air New Zealand paragraph, which addressed many of the points made by parties earlier (i.e. how many employees) and sourced from reliable publications. Air New Zealand's market capitalization and the number of employees should indicate that it is a powerhouse in Auckland City. I decided to start Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand - And I strongly feel that the information has to be listed, considering all of the reliable sources written about the headquarters facility. It's common sense that a world headquarters = employment base and tax dollars for a municipality. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:13, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, I found this: http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/council/projects/cbdproject/docs/theeconomyofcbd%20.pdf - A 2003 report about the CBD from Auckland City states that three of the top ten New Zealand companies, including Air New Zealand, are HQed in the CBD. While Air New Zealand moved HQs since 2003, its new HQ is in Auckland City anyway. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

green links
Thank you for joining the discussion about the orange and green links proposal. I have started a more modest proposal which may be a first step towards my older proposal. Any comments would be greatly appreciated there. GeometryGirl (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

User talk:64.157.4.76

 * I noticed you've blocked this guy before and he seems to not get get the lesson. He's on it again.

,,.

My opinion is that he uses the "Random Article" button just to simply vandalise or some sort. --CocaCirca2009 (talk) 19:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the report. I've blocked for three months.- gadfium 19:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Its just so frustrating seeing vandalisers do that >:S --CocaCirca2009 (talk) 20:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks so much Gadfium for all the info on the Gastropod subpages! By the way I love the chart on your user page; it cracks me up. it's very funny. Best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 22:31, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Cannabis protest at University of Otago
Hi there could you please advise me of wording that could be used to add information to the student protest section of the Otago University page that you think would be not soapboxing. It is genuinely contextual and it is the most recent significant protest movement at the University. I am not trying to be overly promotional, I just think that this is legitimate information that people are interested in, and it certainly meets the threshold of notability considering the media interest in it over the years. Let me know how you think a sentence could be worded that will satisfy all parties. Thanks 139.80.33.172 (talk) 22:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't write about your own club. Try getting an account, and contributing to Wikipedia on subjects where you don't have a conflict of interest.- gadfium 23:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not a member of the club. That being established what wording would be satisfactory to all parties to include a mention of this group in the student protest section.  Given that it is the only current significant protest group on campus at the moment it seems relevant.139.80.33.172 (talk) 05:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

A gastropod article
Am I missing something, or did this one slip past the CopyVio cleanup process intact? Trochus tiaratus best, Invertzoo (talk) 00:32, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like it did get missed. I don't have the copy of Powell any more, and it's probably not worth a trip to the library to get it again, so just use your discretion to reduce the description.- gadfium 00:48, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gadfium. Do you think I need to place the copyvio message on the talk page when I do that? Actually maybe since it is only one, I can see if I can rewrite the description myself. But if not, I suppose I should put the copyvio message on there. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 15:34, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I suggest you just follow Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Gastropods/Subpage for organizing CopyVio Cleanup. If you don't have alternative materials from which to write a new description, check Henry Suter (1913): Manual of the New Zealand Mollusca which is in the public domain, and if that doesn't cover this species, then reduce the description down to a few words.- gadfium 19:18, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Alzheimer's post
Thank you for your comments on the external link to Alzheimer's Disease for National Endowment for Alzheimer's Research. However, we respectfully disagree with your decision to delete the link to our organization. We have reviewed the external link criteria and it is our position that the link you deleted is as valid and relevant as any of the other external links, and if ours is deleted, then all the rest should also be deleted. We have reinserted the link. If you wish to discuss further, please email the Executive Director at webmaster@memorymatters.org prior to taking unilateral action. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Many people rely on our organization for details of gene therapy for Alzheimer's and it is a valuable resource for the web community rather than a self-promoting purpose.
 * It appears you have a conflict of interest in the matter. I see your link has since been removed again by another editor. I suggest you explain on the article talk page why the link is important rather than attempting to place it in the article again.- gadfium 20:44, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Dear Gadfium: I do not believe that I have a "conflict of interest" in this matter. However, I do have an advanced medical degree and a decade of experience in Alzheimer's research. We are not interested in debating this matter further. If you feel strongly that it should be deleted, then so be it. But ultimately, it is the community who loses out on access to information and additional resources to fight Alzheimer's. By the way, the Alzheimer's Association site could just as easily be deleted, based on the criteria you forwarded, since they solicit donations through their web site. It appears prejudicial to include some external links and not others, irrespective of who makes the largely arbitrary decision of what to include and what not to include? Rather than simply deleting links, perhaps you could use your Auckland education to do some scientific research of your own? Indeed, we have one Otago alumnus in our lab and have worked with many Kiwis in the area of Gene Therapy. In any event, thanks for your input. We will not make any further edits to the AD entry, but actually it could use a lot of work in many respects aside from links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.173.172 (talk) 21:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Since this has led to a nomination for National Endowment for Alzheimer's Research to be deleted, we will have numerous people looking for reliable sources on your organisation, and its credibility will be established or otherwise. If the article is kept, you will have a stronger case for a link to it on the Alzheimer's page. You can help by providing links to reliable third party sources which have covered the organisation.- gadfium 01:18, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Naming Conventions. RFC: Removal of exceptions to "use common names" passage.
This is to inform you that removing exceptions to the use of "most Common Names" as the titles of Wikipedia articles from the the Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions policy page, is the subject of a referral for Comment (RfC). This follows recent changes by some editors.

You are being informed as an editor previously involved in discussion of these issues relevant to that policy page. You are invited to comment at this location.  Xan  dar  21:38, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the notification. I have fixed one of the links in your post above.- gadfium 23:07, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Please read my comment just below yours. I entirely agree with you, and this is the whole point of the rewrite. I think you've been mislead. Hesperian 23:45, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Overenthusiasm at WP:EL regarding NZ On Screen
Hi Gadfium, I know you've participated in this discussion to a small extent, and are an experience WP:NZ user, so I thought I'd get your opinion (you may not agree with me, which is fair enough). Over at External links/Noticeboard the discussion about New Zealand On Screen has taken a dramatic turn, with an indef block being imposed on User:FilmTVfan for spamming. I appreciate that these users are trying to rid Wikipedia of spam, and appreciate their enthusiasm. But they seem to have missed entirely the point, which is the question of whether the links improve Wikipedia. Mostlyharmless (talk) 03:26, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I am sympathetic to you, and to FilmTVfan, but I have other things I want to do on Wikipedia and therefore pick my battles to some extent. Your most recent post at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard is excellent: FilmTVfan is a SPA, and that's not really allowed, but her edits were to the benefit of Wikipedia.


 * One possible tack to take is to ask at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard what would be the reaction if you (or any other editor in good standing who is clearly not a SPA) reinsert some of the links, after due consideration in each case of whether they were relevant. To strengthen the argument, you could look at other sources to add at the same time, and you could add the link as an inline reference rather than as an external link. I am not suggesting that you actually reinsert the links without a prior discussion; although perhaps you could start the discussion, then edit one article as a trial. Note that NZ On Screen is licensed under CC-NC, so it is not possible to use their text directly without paraphrasing.


 * If you get a favourable response, you could propose this as a New Zealand collaboration: to examine all of FilmTVfan's links and reinsert those with value, while also improving the articles. I certainly don't expect you to improve them all by yourself.- gadfium 05:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the advice, I'll consider those steps. Mostlyharmless (talk) 05:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Category 1 historic buildings
Looking for your thoughts on the notability of the Category 1 buildings Lanma726 (talk) 05:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Replied on your talk page.- gadfium 06:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Conflicting image
Yes, thank you. I got sidetracked, but that is a useful image. --Geronimo20 (talk) 20:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Mountain biking in Rotorua
Seems like we are edit waring a bit about the category 'Mountain biking venues in New Zealand'. Especially Rotorua has a text in its article Another of Rotorua's attractions is the mountain biking. Whakarewarewa (also known as the "Redwoods") Forest has been described as 'the Disneyland of mountain biking' and has some of the best mountain bike trails in New Zealand. I see this 'disneyland of mountain biking' being worth categorizing as an venue. This mean this venue is something special from mountain biking point of view. Is the same as having it categorized as a 'spa town'. Do you still reject placing the category to this city? --Kslotte (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Moved to Talk:Rotorua, and replied there.- gadfium 19:44, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

A random gastropods project article
Thanks again Gadfium for stepping in to answer my question. Actually it would be fine for this to be a page by itself rather than being embedded in the portal page. And if so, how do I do it? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 20:54, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to do it without listing all nearly 6,000 articles by copy and paste? Invertzoo (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Wow. How kind of you to set it up for me Gadfium! You are a sweetheart. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 22:54, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Another technical question
My talk page at the top now has Invertzoo in italics as part of the title. Do you know how to make it plain? Someone may have done this as a little gag because I was making a lot of italic titles in the gastropod project, but I would like to reverse it again. Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

NZ_On_Screen proposal
Hi, I'd appreciate your feedback on my proposal at: Talk:NZ_On_Screen. cheers Stuartyeates (talk) 05:02, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Filmtvfan
What options do we have at this point with regards to the two blocks by Guy? He seems to have abandoned the discussion. There also hasn't been any further action on EdJohnston's proposal. Do we have consensus to implement it? UncleDouggie (talk) 05:39, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * You would have made my life easier if you'd linked to EdJohnston's proposal. I presume you mean this. As I said above, I pick my battles on Wikipedia, and do not intend to make this a major one. I do not think Filmtvfan is likely to be interested in being unblocked on the terms EdJohnston proposes, as she is a single purpose account, even though I think being an SPA is acceptable in limited circumstances.- gadfium 09:46, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's the proposal; I'm sorry for the trouble. I understand your position. It's a bit troubling to me because I think that it could have been handled better. Oh well. UncleDouggie (talk) 03:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I was rather acerbic in my response to you.- gadfium 03:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


 * When I try to read some talk pages in Wikipedia, such as this one, a strange thing happens. I enter a miraculous Alice in Wonderland world and self-serving blusterings and grandstanding pomposities start parodying themselves before me. Logic and common sense is suspended, as this dream world dances this way and that, with a couple of the main players inflating themselves to improbable dimensions. Is this an altered state? The effects ofeating too many mushroom flats? Have I become mentally deranged? The remaining option is... no surely that can't be true. For a moment I thought it might actually be happening. --Geronimo20 (talk) 07:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, sometimes this place is batshit.- gadfium 09:23, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well then, I shall continue reverting these nonsense reversions. --Geronimo20 (talk) 10:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Please don't simply revert, but look at other ways to improve the article as well, and don't do it en masse. The text at NZ On Screen is under a CC-NC license, so it cannot be incorporated directly into the article, as I believe Filmtvfan did at least once.- gadfium 18:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Removing italic title
Oh thank you Gadfium, I looked for something like that but could not find it. Many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 14:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Reference Links
Hi Gadfium, thank you for adding IPC page to WPNZ.

I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on these additional info for IPC page.

I'd like to add some reference links about the NZQA-accredited academic programmes and TESOl certificate we have:

http://www.kiwiquals.govt.nz http://www.trinitycollege.co.uk/resource/?id=3479

I would have liked to point directly to the description of each programme but it seems the website applies session for every search result so I can not give a fix link to each of the programme (any idea how?)

And I also want to add a line after the first opening line:

Located in Aokautere Drive, Palmerston North, IPC is a residential education provider.

The 'Aokautere' word will link to an existing page about Aokautere.

Thank you, International Pacific College (talk) 21:06, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I see you have asked the same question at User talk:98.248.33.198 and been answered there. Please don't ask the same question in several places, because it involves each person spending time finding an answer, even though the first person has already done so. It would be better next time to post a question in one place, and if you think others might usefully contribute, post a brief message on their talk page directing them to the question.- gadfium 22:22, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Got it. Sorry about that and Thank you. International Pacific College (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

About: Milan Brych
Tēnā koe, Gadfium


 * Purely procedural note:

I've removed the cat you added, per WP:BLP. In my opinion, the refs in the article so far haven't established Brych's, ahem, "alleged" charlatanism. Yet.


 * Purely personal note:

I was a kid, not even 10 years old, when the whole Brych brouhaha happened. It was huge news over here. What was it like on the interesting side of the Tasman Sea?

Nāku noa, nā! --Shirt58 (talk) 14:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I think being convicted of practising medicine without a license justifies the category. I won't re-add it though.


 * In the late 1970s, I had more important things to do than worry about controversial cancer treatments, yet it made a sufficient impression that I still remember the name. I suspect any New Zealander who was an adult at the time, and who followed the news even a little bit, would remember the coverage. This makes it an important article for Wikipedia. I should bump up the importance ratings on the talk page. When I wrote the Tom Neale article, I was surprised that we didn't have an article on Brych. Thank you for writing it.- gadfium 19:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)


 * And thank you for your your thought-provoking reply!
 * I think being convicted of practising medicine without a license justifies a "convicted criminals" or somesuch cat, but - only my opinion - I would again argue we perhaps should avoid the "fraudster" cat until the article includes enough refs to justify this.
 * More soon. --Shirt58 (talk) 11:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

About: Sir Bruce Dodd
Hello Gadfuim - Please excuse my ignorance in trying to edit pages. We are trying to list all our notable alumni to our page, Sir Bruce was a student in the late fifties and early sixties. Over the last few years he has contributed considerable sums to the college and we would like to recognise that. I tried recently to create a page for him but did not attach the correct references hence it was deleted. I am now trying to get my facts together to create the page correctly. Regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by Westmont (talk • contribs) 00:37, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I googled the name, and found no hits whatsoever. This is surprising for someone with a knighthood in the modern era. Our articles on Taranaki (New Zealand electorate) and Roger Maxwell appear to contradict your information in the now-deleted article Sir Bruce Charles Dodd that he was MP for Taranaki from 1990-1993. The reference given in that article also does not mention him. It would appear that Sir Bruce is not an appropriate candidate for an article on Wikipedia because reliable sources on his life do not exist.- gadfium 01:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)


 * It is less surprising that there are no sources for Benjamin Dodd, who you also added to the school alumni list. After all, the SIS and MI6 prefer not to publish the names of their agents. His later career as a cook & restauratuer (sic) is less notable.- gadfium 01:08, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Health Research Council of New Zealand
Hi Gadfium. I am in the process of creating Pacific Islands Families Study. In so doing, I also created a very small stub for Health Research Council of New Zealand - do you think an entry is required for them? It got marked for speedy deletion, so I subsequently added a brief description from the website. Would appreciate your advice on both these pages. Tayste (talk - contrib) 02:50, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice to see you. :-)


 * I think an entry for the Health Research Council is appropriate, but at the time it was tagged for deletion it was only a single line which gave no context. The article now contains sufficient content, in my opinion, except that it appears to be rather too closely copied from the HRC website. You will need to rewrite it using your own words.- gadfium 05:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I've rewritten it a bit. It seems to already have lots of links to it from other places, indicating that it is an important-ish page waiting for more input? Tayste (talk - contrib) 08:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * PIF is clearly notable, as it has received coverage in the Herald, and has published results in the International Journal of Epidemioloy. Adding links to such coverage at an early stage of an article's life is a necessity to differentiate such a study it from projects which have nothing published about them other than their own reports.- gadfium 05:22, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, clearly notable. I'll fill in more details as time permits.  Hope it's OK to leave a bit of skeleton lying around until then. Tayste (talk - contrib) 08:53, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

"Last century"
In the Tuatapere article in the source was "last century" and really was written in 1948, but it's a funny thing, if you know, that the first Hungarian, who settled down there, arrived only in 1909 :) (see: Hungarian New Zealander) I don't understand that source, but it was the only referred to the Hungarian settlement... :) --Eino81 (talk) 06:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * It occurred to me after I'd made the edit that the settlement could have been anytime in the century up to 1948, not necessarily in the 19th century. I've tried a different wording in the article. Feel free to tweak it as you see fit.- gadfium 06:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Louis Bennison/Margaret Lawrence
Gadfium, you really think he's apt for an article? I originally was researching his girlfriend actress Margaret Lawrence. I don't know too much about her except the plays she appeared in on Broadway. Bennison less so. I didn't know about their relationship and although I knew Lawrence died at 40 in 1929, I didn't know how she died. Theater articles sometimes mentions her marriage to Wallace Eddinger, who had been a famous child star. I Googled her name and up came the article on Bennison. God Bless the internet, as I didn't know Lawrence was murdered or that Bennison comitted suicide after murdering her. They were both souced with liquor so it doesn't look like a murder-suicide-pact. Thanks. Koplimek (talk) 14:03, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd never heard of either of them until a few days ago, when I removed Bennison from List of suicides because he didn't have an article. We have to be rather strict on that article as it would be a publicity nightmare if someone put up a name of someone well known who hadn't committed suicide, and the edit wasn't fairly promptly removed.


 * I did google the name, so I could tell whether the edit was well-intentioned rather than a hoax or mistake (I do that with virtually everyone's edits, no offence intended to you) and found there seemed to be sufficient material to justify an article. I'm not interested in 1920s Broadway, so I won't be writing that article. The other possibility would be to add a reference to the suicides list, as has been done for Clara Bloodgood. You'll note that such referenced but unlinked entries are rare in that list, and I think there's an unspoken understanding there that we don't encourage them. If there was a Wikipedia article on Lawrence which would include Bennison's suicide, then a referenced entry might be acceptable.- gadfium 18:28, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

New Principal of Ngaruawahia High School
It was a late announcement in the last school term. Today is the first day of the school's new term and the newly appointed principal's first day in office. Which newsletter did you receive? The job change was on the front page of the most recent one.--AtlanticDeep (talk) 22:47, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The most recent newsletter I can see on the site is number 4, at The link from the main menu of the school website is broken. If it's in newsletter 5, that's fine. I presume it will appear on the website in due course.- gadfium  22:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * That is probably the case. I think it was number 5. I can go down to the school and take a look if you want.--AtlanticDeep (talk) 23:07, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
 * No rush. Just leave it as an uncited statement until it appears on the website.- gadfium 00:40, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Deb Webber
Your thoughts on Deb Webber are welcome. IMO the article is currently bordering on an attack page created by an SPA. (I say this despite agreeing with much of the scepticism and criticism). While there is probably more than enough coverage of her to establish notability, the majority probably does focus on controversy. dramatic (talk) 01:21, 13 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Does she have notability separate from her role on Sensing Murder? I would be inclined to merge and redirect to that article.- gadfium 01:38, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Marlborough Boys College
I apologise if I am inadvertently causing concern I am new to all this.

However,

1: Currently the article on Marlborough boys is incorrect

Ray Russell is no longer employed to work with International students.

Innes house has closed

2: Any facts I am intending posting will be from school archives

3: I also have access to photos that are not copy righted one because of their age or they belong to the school how do I progress beyond this point.

gilesl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilesl (talk • contribs) 20:45, 14 October 2009 (UTC)


 * My concern was that your first change to the school history section was substantially the same as the school's web page, which is a breach of their copyright. If you hold a position at the school, you might be able to persuade them to change the copyright on the page to a suitable free license (the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License is usually best), but usually the information on Wikipedia is a summary, preferably drawn from multiple sources, which links to pages such as the school history page as references.


 * Photos in New Zealand are in general out of copyright 50 years after the author dies. You can upload such photos to Wikimedia Commons and use the template Template:PD-NZ for the licensing information. Photos which are not out of copyright, but owned by the school, can be placed under a free license such as Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike by the school. The photo should be uploaded to Commons with a template of Template:OTRS pending and an email from the school sent to confirm the license details, as explained in Commons:OTRS. It's simpler if you upload a photo you took yourself, as the act of uploading it is sufficient to confirm that you release it under the license you choose on the upload form.- gadfium 21:42, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for that gilesl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gilesl (talk • contribs) 02:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Question
How can I join Wikiproject New Zealand?--AtlanticDeep (talk) 00:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Just add your name at WPNZ. We don't have newsletters, so its mainly a symbolic gesture. You might like to also add User WikiProject New Zealand to User:AtlanticDeep, and to add the New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board to your watchlist.- gadfium 03:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

NZ Television
Hi there! Thank you for the link :) Greetings for your coming summer from the winter-cold Hungary! :) By the way, are the comic series good in NZ, and which is the best? --Eino81 (talk) 22:12, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
 * By comic series, do you mean cartoons, or comedies? Bro' Town is considered to be a good cartoon series, although I don't like it myself. In general, I find the standard of comedy in New Zealand television to be poor.- gadfium 22:21, 18 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I meant comedy series, like the Friends in the USA... So, are their standard not so high quality, I see. And is there any series, any kind of, which contains Maori themes or stories? --Eino81 (talk) 07:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I can't think of any such New Zealand program that I'd recommend.- gadfium 08:41, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Maori Party - Centre Right
Hi Gadfium,

I made the change to the Maori Party article last night but on second thoughts it might be worth waiting a bit to see how things are play out. My rationale for labeling them Centre-Right was based on their recent actions coming out and supporting a piece of legislation that it would be hard to argue as not being on the right of things. While the change was a bit kneejerk on my part I will raise it in the discussion once I've seen a bit more. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bactoid (talk • contribs) 06:59, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Red Alert
Yes, I think that quite a few more blogs on New Zealand Blogosphere should be created. I shall start tomorrow, please do remove bias if you see it! Kiwiteen123 (talk) 18:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers for protecting my user page. Mattlore (talk) 20:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Tokelau Flag
Hi, I thank you for taking interests in Tokelau Island and for posting our Flag but I have been asked by the Government to update the Flag image as the one posted was the old one which was modified and passed by the Government... I note that every time I update the Flag image you change it back to your original image. I can email you a copy of the Official image if you prefer to update it yourself. Please let me know. I also have images and videos of the actual Flag raising day in Fakaofo/Tokelau which I can send you copy of if you like thanks again and hoping to hear from you soon

WikiProject New Zealand/governments
Hello, I note that you have contributed to WikiProject New Zealand/Election 2008 taskforce and have an interest in New Zealand Politics, are you willing to join me in re-creating WikiProject New Zealand/governments? It is no longer in use and New Zealand politics articles in general need substantial improving. Drop me a line if you want to help: There is work to do! Kiwiteen123 (talk)
 * While New Zealand politics articles need improving, so do very many others. My preference is to work on articles on small towns and localities, although I haven't done much of that for a while now. Good luck with the project.- gadfium 18:04, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * FYI: WikiProject New Zealand/Politics. Thanks for your help with 50th New Zealand Parliament as well... :) Kiwiteen123 (talk) 05:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucrat
I've made you a bureaucrat on mi. Might save you having to look for someone else when something needs to be done. Thanks for keeping a watchful eye on it Kahuroa (talk) 08:11, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your confidence. I'll try to keep it in order until someone more qualified comes along.- gadfium 08:55, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

ThankYou
Hello thankyou for your Welcoming me and stuff, It was nice to know where my talk page is and stuff.

Bob Man  801  09:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for helping with the Newlands College article. You don't know how long I spent trying to find someone famous who went to Newlands College hahaha. ★ Ffgamera ★ - My page! · Talk to me!· Contribs 04:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Botany Downs Secondary College
Hello, this is Enda Mckenna from Botany Downs Secondary College. I appreciate that you have helped us in the past, but can please not delete contents in our Wikipedia page. We were going to add content but as you have deleted the sections, we will need to recreate them.If you wish to make any changes,then please notify me first.

e.mckenna@bdsc.school.nz.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Botanyict (talk • contribs) 23:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Just create the sections at the time you add the content. Having empty sections looks unprofessional.- gadfium 00:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Tamil bell
Hi! I had a look at this edit comment made by you. Actually, the page numbers I have specified i.e. 22 & 23 are for the original paper documents and not the PDF file. Regards.- The Enforcer Office of the secret service 06:33, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Hone Harawira
Hi Gadfium, Titewhai Harawiri was convicted of assaulting patients at the Whare pai and imprisoned. Hone Harawiri is a minor player in NZ politics. He has made his influence even minor with trip to Paris, and his response to the subsequent criticism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickcoop (talk • contribs) 20:10, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is not about Titewhai, although she is potentially worthy of an article if suitable sources can be found. She was one of the best known of the Māori activists in the early 1980s. Your edit summary of "Neither she nor Hone have contributed anything positive to NZ" shows clearly that you are unable to be neutral on this subject. You have also been reverted by three different editors. Time to give it a rest.- gadfium 21:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Gadfium, I have no issue with this Wikipedia entry saying that his mother is Titewhai. What concerns me is that there is a subjective assessment of her actions in the 1980's. What she was most famous for in the 1980's was her involvement in the Whare pai, not being a Maori activist. As to the claim that Hone has had a major role in treaty issues, language revitalisation, land occupations, Maori broadcasting and fighting racism both in New Zealand and abroad, this again is a subjective assessment. The Wikipedia entry you are reverting to is not neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickcoop (talk • contribs) 00:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Re User_talk:122.57.44.173
"Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to St. Peter's School (Cambridge), even if you intend to fix them later. Such edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox." Thank you.-gadfium 09:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what you're on about, since I've never seen this page before much less made changes to it. I consider your comments to be harassment.122.57.44.173 (talk) 08:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

External link(s)
Hi Gadfium, I'm unclear why addition(s) to external link kapiticoast.co.nz e.g. at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Waikanae&action=history are being removed? The site is non-commercial and links to other commercial sites are there. Thanks. Nik 203.97.251.169 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.251.169 (talk) 23:18, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The link was spammed to numerous articles by you, which makes it appear that you are promoting your own website rather than attempting to improve the encyclopedia. Please see our guidelines at WP:LINKSPAM and WP:COI.- gadfium 00:21, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply - have read the policy. Link to regional website kapiticoast.co.nz was loaded for ONLY relevant towns in the defined region. e.g. kapiticoast had kapiticoast.co.nz. No link was made for a less clear area e.g. Mana, despite it being in the region. If kapiticoast.co.nz can not be there how can e.g. raumatibeach.co.nz? I would like to reload for Kapiti, Kapiticoast, Raumati, Paraparaumu and Waikanae. But will these be removed by you? No point in getting into a bun-fight. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.251.169 (talk) 08:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Forgot to say - aim is not to promote the site - there is no gain to be had. The site is to promote the activities in the region. It is non-commercial hence a community orientated site. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.251.169 (talk) 08:03, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I will not revert your link again from these pages, but that's no guarantee that other editors will not do so. Your best course of action is probably to add an argument for the link to the talk page of each article, and allow an uninvolved editor to decide whether it adds sufficient value to the article.- gadfium 08:33, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Faith
I'm curious to know what you think of the latest anonymous additions to the Faith page. Tayste (talk - contrib) 03:28, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * That's not an article I've ever had any substantial connection with. It isn't vandalism, and it's in the correct section dealing with Christian faith. Whether it's balanced and appropriate I'll leave for those more interested in the subject to decide.- gadfium 05:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Our old friend is back...
Hi Gadfium. Sadly, it looks like Ernest the Sheep is back to stir up trouble with anti-Kiwi sentiment on Australia/New Zealand related articles. His latest comment at Talk:Pavlova takes the cake(or the biscuit, at least). I wonder if he was scared by a weta as a child and never recovered or something... do you think it's about time we got together on an RfC about him? Grutness...wha?  23:30, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that's an excellent idea. I suspect that he is an alternate bad hand account, but without a concrete idea of what the main account is, a checkuser would not be appropriate. A discussion at ANI, proposing he be banned as a troll would also be appropriate.- gadfium 00:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Gadfium -hate to say this, but I've tried reading through the information on how to go about starting an RfC, and my brain freezes with all the gobbledygook and contradictions/confusions on the pages. Have you ever started an RfC before - if so, how do you go about it? Grutness...wha?  00:33, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The instructions are at Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance. There are templates available for creating the RFC at Requests_for_comment/User_conduct/Creation, but you should also look at the layout of existing RFCs. You will need to fill the minimum requirements set out at Requests_for_comment/User_conduct/new. You have filled those requirements, but I'm not sure if XLerate or A8UDI's interactions with EtS have been sufficient. I suspect a bit of dialog is required rather than simply the issuing of a warning.- gadfium 02:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Hm. Still looks complex, but I'll give it a go. I clicked on what looked like a useful link at Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance and it took me to Requests for comment/User conduct/Guidance, which wasn't much of a help at all. Grutness...wha?  22:50, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Re User_talk:71.187.229.249
Hey there, recently got a message from you pointing out than an edit I had done had been reverted. The page you pointed to was not edited by me, and if possible I'd like to be pointed out exactly what was changed on my IP so I can figure out who used my home IP address to make such changes which were not fit for Wikipedia standards. Thanks.
 * The message I left was in May 2008. It is likely that this address was assigned to someone else before you had it. If you only just got "You have new messages", then it's the first time you've been on a Wikipedia page without being logged in since the IP address was assigned to you, which probably means it's been your IP address for no more than a month. It would appear no one else has used Wikipedia from this address in the intervening period, or at least that they didn't click on the "new messages". If you like, I'll delete the talk page since the message no longer serves any purpose.- gadfium 23:18, 27 November 2009 (UTC)