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Religion in New Zealand
Hello. User:Lcmortensen has made an edit to the page, resulting in the order of the census columns being reversed, and the promotion of "Buddhist" to the top of the table. On the face of it, he seems to have done some good work in bringing the statistics up to date, but the changes I've mentioned may be contentious, and there may be others that I haven't seen yet. Perhaps you'd care to take a look. Akld guy (talk) 13:18, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Lcmortensen appears to have put the religions into alphabetical order, while the previous table was in numerical order (in both cases, somewhat confusing due to the presence of numerous denominations of Christianity). The appropriate place to discuss this is at the article talk page, but you have made a good start by posting on talk page.- gadfium 20:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. That wasn't entirely what I meant by "reversing the order". He has reversed the order in which the 2013, 2006, and 2001 census columns appear so that 2013 is now at far right. To my thinking, the most recent, and therefore most significant data, should be at far left. I will take up your suggestion and start a discussion on the article's Talk page. Akld guy (talk) 22:20, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Category:Guinea-Bissauan people
Category:Guinea-Bissauan people, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Tavix ( talk ) 16:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Move over redirect
Morning Gadfium, User:Schwede66/Tools/Capital of New Zealand is ready enough for mainspace, and about time given this weekend's 150th celebrations. Could you please move the draft over the redirect?  Schwede 66  20:01, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. Nice work!- gadfium 20:04, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Paul Heath
I see the page Paul Heath was deleted in 2008 under CSD. Was that by chance the New Zealand justice? If so, is it worth restoring what was there? His QC alone should make him notable.  Schwede 66  01:59, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it was a British screenwriter who wrote and starred in Snakes and Ladders (film).- gadfium 03:41, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks.  Schwede 66  03:46, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Possible vandalism
I was wondering if User:174.84.216.146's edits are vandalism. Please respond soon. 2602:306:3357:BA0:3C9D:FF61:8557:B43B (talk) 21:46, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * They are editing articles on subjects I have no expertise in, and the edits are not obvious vandalism. Since you have reported them to WP:AIV someone with more time or expertise than me will investigate. This does not appear to be highly urgent as they have not made any edits for a few hours.- gadfium 21:52, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Australasian swamphen/Pukeko
So I did look at the discussion and it related to the New Zealand birds being a subspecies of the purple swamphen which is no longer the case. The species now has a considerably smaller range as Australasian swamphen. I'd like to see where the discussion goes with this new species revision. If the consensus is to have an article for Australasian swamphen and Pukeko, then I'm OK with that......Pvmoutside (talk) 04:22, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I started topics on the Wikiproject Bird talk page if you or others would like to comment on the changes I've made....Pvmoutside (talk) 12:09, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Apparent block evasion by Manmountain08
Hi Gadfium, I think that is evading their block and continuing to edit war as. The IP account is performing the same kind of edits in articles Manmountain has been active in, with being something of a give away. Could you please look into this? Thanks, Nick-D (talk) 04:46, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I've added the IP to the sockpuppet investigation.- gadfium 05:14, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * If this is confirmed, then I agree with your comment there that an indef block on the master account is appropriate as AGF only goes so far.- gadfium 05:15, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Talkback
 Vanjagenije  (talk)  23:51, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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CP edit
thanks, but why was this in your edit summary ?"I don't have access to view the source to verify that it supports the content." Note to self? Suspicion? cheers,--Wuerzele (talk) 14:50, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I was tidying the edit but not endorsing the content of it. I do not have access to such paywalled articles and it is likely that even with access I am not well placed to assess how well the article supports such a broad claim, although it does appear to meet WP:MEDRS. I am not a doctor or skilled in any medical field.- gadfium 18:45, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

copy-paste move
User:Rudolph89 has done a copy-paste move of WikiProject New Zealand/politics/New MPs/Marama Davidson. What's the best course of action - delete the mainspace article and move the article from project space?  Schwede 66  08:01, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I've deleted it, so you can move the draft into article space.- gadfium 08:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Blocking IP address
Hi Gadfium, you have recently blocked my IP address and I do not quite agree with you as your reason for that was 'likely a school.' I didn't there was a problem with schools posting info on Wikipedia as long as the articles were correct. So what is the justification for the ban? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acgjim (talk • contribs) 02:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The block reason is " " and the block is applied because this IP address has been making unconstructive edits. The note that it is likely from a school is to warn other admins that there is likely to be a number of people editing from this address, and that a mix of good and bad edits might be found.- gadfium 05:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Bettifm
He's back! Introducing poor grammar by a user name close to the original (User:Bets18) was enough to make me think that we once again have him among us. Looking at the user contributions, we have the same areas of interest, and edit number five surely stands out.  Schwede 66  20:01, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Blocked.- gadfium 20:32, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Help with Te Ara source
Hi Gadfium. I just happened to click through to your user page from Articles for deletion/Roslyn School, Palmerston North. and saw that you are active on the Māori Wikipedia. That reminded me of a longstanding query I have with the New Zealanders in the United Kingdom article, which I originally raised here, before the articles were merged. There's no particular reason for you to have an answer just because of the Māori connection, but I thought it might be worth asking for your opinion just in case. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:26, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no reason why you cannot contact Te Ara yourself. They have contact details at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/contact-us, and have been friendly to Wikipedians in the past. If you are concerned about your anonymity, use a throwaway email address rather than your usual personal one.- gadfium 19:57, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Gadfium. I wasn't so much asking for advice on whether to contact them or not, but on the underlying issue. But now you remind me of that, I think I will go ahead and e-mail them, as I suggested I might six years ago(!). It's encouraging to hear that they've been helpful with past requests. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:02, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * It's worth noting that Te Ara is not what it was. It was funded for a particular span of time which has come to an end (see http://blog.teara.govt.nz/2014/11/04/the-journey-continues/ ) and is now in maintenance mode. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up, Stuartyeates. Let's see if they get back to me. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

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King Kong
Hello Gadfium, I am the most recent editor of the King Kong 2005 film article. I would like to apologize for what may have come off as persistent disruptive editing. I have never made an edit to a Wikipedia article before, and simply did not understand how it all worked. I only included something I thought was relevant to the plot of the movie, but saw that my addition was getting removed soon after being inserted and did not understand why this was happening, nor did I know how to go about it. 2604:2000:70B4:F300:A4AE:25D8:4258:50DB (talk) 07:28, 12 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:70B4:F300:A4AE:25D8:4258:50DB (talk) 07:26, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-life_care
My insert on Nov 11 2015 of the word "diseases" mostly was removed by you saying, "This doesn't seem to be needed."

I fail to see the reasoning why it was removed. Would you mind explaining please why you did this? My justification to insert the word "diseases" was to bring some clarity to this rather than leave doubt in the minds of the readers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvcv (talk • contribs) 09:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

To the layperson word "diseases" is more understandable than "symptom", Google results has "disease" 7.5 times more than "symptom". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvcv (talk • contribs) 10:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)


 * In the lede, the article mentioned "those with a terminal illness or terminal condition", and you have changed it to "those with a terminal illness or terminal disease condition". I don't think there's a difference between terminal illness and terminal disease, but there is a difference for terminal condition. For example, someone dying from physical trauma suffered in an accident would not normally be considered to be suffering from a terminal disease.- gadfium 17:52, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Kia Ora Sir.
Well been on for almost 3 months now, here to ask about the school article: Ross Intermediate School. Is there any reason there is no infobox on it?? Probably a dumb question...

Regards Sirpottingmix (talk) 09:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
 * No other reason than no editor having bothered to add one. But if you would like to work on that article, it's more important that some references be added. :)  Schwede 66  17:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)


 * I see you added one yourself. Well done.- gadfium 21:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Mountain Goat (motor cycle)
I've copied the article to my sandpit for working on NealeFamily (talk) 00:28, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Great, but watch out for copyright. Having a copy of that article, even in your userspace, is a breach of Puke Ariki's terms.- gadfium 00:38, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I have already substantially changed the text to the point where it no longer reads the same - I'll be working on it over the next few days adding referencing and further data so should be well away from any copyright NealeFamily (talk) 02:58, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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Block evasion?
Hello Gadfium, when I look at the editing behaviour, use of grammar, and areas of interest of User:Angry Bald English Villian Man, I cannot help but think of similarities to User:Bettifm. Your thoughts?  Schwede 66  20:38, 10 December 2015 (UTC)


 * I have been aware since he started editing, but this does appear to be a real attempt to contribute productively (with the occasional lapse), and so I've not taken action.- gadfium 21:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

No, my grammar is poor i uses to be good at grammar, not a troubled Bettifm. --Angry Bald English Villian Man Chat  20:57, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * If you want to clear up this mess, and you still have the password for the Bettifm account, post an unblock message there with an explanation that you have the ABVM account which has been editing productively. Most likely, someone will then run a checkuser on you, and if you have been using only this one account you may have the block removed and be a user in good standing.- gadfium 21:32, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Another checkuser has beaten you to it and blocked the account.  Schwede 66  00:42, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the technical evidence shows that it is Bettifm. Mike V • Talk 02:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Happy New Year! Gadfium, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 20:42, 1 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.


 * Thanks.- gadfium 21:21, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Edwards syndrome
The prognosis of children with this syndrome is outdated. I and many parents agree. We have many support groups that you are welcome to join if you wish so you can see for yourself. Our children with full T-18, not mosaic or partial, do live to their teens, 20's and some reach their 30's. They are learning to walk and communicate with proper therapy and medical care. The apnea that has been diagnosed with our children is typically related to seizure activity and resolved with medication. The survival rate has improved greatly with cardiac ASD and VSD closure. The main cause of death with our children is not apnea. It's infection related to the common cold resulting in pneumonia.

It would be nice if you could update the information so parents of newly diagnosed children can have a little better hope.

Thank you for your time. Robinat89 (talk) 08:20, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You will need suitable references. The standards for these are set out at WP:MEDRS. We cannot use anecdotal information.- gadfium 17:24, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Gadfium, Thanks very much for that. I am on a slow connection and struggling to do new things on Wikipedia. NZgreygoose (talk) 03:40, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Edits by Garglesaver on David Bain page
Hi Gadfium, Can you take a look at the editing by Garglesaver on the DB page please and see if you feel he should be blocked. He has deleted the word 'wrongly' (before convicted) three times in the last 24 hours. Turtletop (talk) 07:32, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I am concerned about the multiple new accounts edit warring at this article, and have semi-protected it for the time being.- gadfium 07:49, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have responded to this on the David Bain Talk page, under Contentious Edits. Thanks NZgreygoose (talk)

Air New Zealand Flight 901
I had recently had several links removed on Air New Zealand Flight 901, the Erebus disaster, where I linked to copies of the Court of Appeal and Privy Council judgments, as well as a copy of the Mahon report. I would of thought having the link where the subject is mentioned in the article to be far more beneficial rather than putting the link at the bottom of the article. Is there anyway these links be reactivated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talk • contribs) 9 January 2016
 * The links were removed because articles are not supposed to have external links embedded in the text. Either add the links to the "External links" section, or convert them into references.- gadfium 22:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Editing by Mr Maggoo
Hi Gadfium, I think you told Mr Maggoo to seek consensus before editing the David Bain page.

I changed his contribution about a 37 page booklet to 'four books'. I wrote this on the Talk page in response to a query from Mr Maggoo:

"Whether a book with 37 pages is a booklet or a book is irrelevant. What is relevant on wikipedia is whether you can provide a reliable source to a description of it as a book or a booklet. I have provided a reliable source (the National Library) which describes it as a book. If you can provide a reliable source (not Counterspin) that describes it as a booklet, then the description becomes contentious. Since there would then be separate sources describing it both as a book and as a booklet, at that point (if anyone really cared) consensus would be required among editors as to which to call it (on wikipedia). Until you understand and accept this absolutely basic rule about editing on wikipedia (providing a reliable source), nothing you add to the David Bain page (or any other page) is likely to remain on the page." Turtletop (talk) 02:04, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

He has changed it back to a 37 page booklet without providing a source. He doesn't seem to understand the most basic wiki editing rules as a result of which his editing is very disruptive. Anything you can do? Turtletop (talk) 03:21, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
 * My principal objective with my initial edits on Mr Maggoo's talk page was to persuade him to use the article talk page, which he is now doing. Whether this is a book or a booklet seems like a very minor matter to me, and I suggest you let it go. In particular, you referred to his edit as vandalism, but it is a difference of opinion between you, and I think you should apologise for that edit summary. You could apologise either by posting to his talk page, or make a very neutral (eg change a space) edit to the article with an edit summary containing an apology.- gadfium 04:13, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Hullo gadfium. I have been complaining on David Bain talk about a defamatory website that someone has linked to at the bottom of the front page. I believed it was Turtledove that cited it but Auckland Guy tells me it was greygoose. But regardless of who linked to it that website contains defamatory material and I firmly believe it should be removed. Do you agree? Also, you have advised me to get a consensus on the David Bain talk page before editing the main page. Easier said than done. But do I need to get a consensus if I am able to cite a reliable link, such as a newspaper article or a book [not my own, apparently? Mr Maggoo (talk) 04:33, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The blog page linked to does not have the material you specified. If you believe the material on a different page of the blog is defamatory, I suggest you talk to a lawyer about it with a view to taking your own action against the blog owner. It is not Wikipedia's business while the blog page containing that specific text is not linked to by us.


 * I still advise you to get a consensus on the David Bain talk page before making controversial edits to the article, but since you have been using the talk page for the last week I think you should have the same right as other editors to edit the article, bearing in mind that edit warring by anyone is not acceptable.- gadfium 05:01, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. Re that Nostalgia blog. That page might not have any defamatory comment, and I would suggest that it has, defamatory comment can easily be found by just bringing up some of those comments on the right hand side of that blog. And even the page linked to is a mine of misinformation. For example two bookshops did not remove it from sale based on advice that it was highly defamatory.

I have responded to that accusation both on the David Bain talk page and on Auckland Guy's talk page. In fact one of the people that supplied that advice did not refer to the book as being highly defamatory, he said I had I had breached a name suppression order. I contacted my lawyer who was able to confirm that no suppression order had been breached, and after some difficulty,we were able to track down that person, who was using a pseudonym, and my lawyer has sent him a letter asking him to reimburse me for any costs and inconvenience caused. What's more, once my lawyer advised that bookshop that my book had not breached a suppression order it was placed back on the shelves again.
 * Hullo again gadfium.

I was able to find out how to remove the reference to that blog, so that is all sorted. But now a new problem has arisen. I edited on the David Bain article citing reliable links and virtually all of them have either been removed or had the wording changed by Turtletop. He gives reasons but I do not believe they are valid. For examples he links to one academic saying he agreed with Binnie and refers to that academic as academics. I had linked to separately to two academics who agreed with Robert Fisher and he has removed both those links. Now I intend to cite those references again but I do not want to be accused of edit warring if I do so. I did accidentally remove a source yesterday which Turtletop has reinstated, I have no problem with that. Mr Maggoo (talk) 20:57, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Gadfium, You suggested that I contact ANI about Mr Maggoo's editing. I have been holding off because I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. I hoped that the disruptive and occasionally hostile attitude he displayed on the talk page might not translate onto the David Bain page itself once he actually started editing. Unfortunately, it has. He has now added this material 3 times within 24 hours. I assume you will take whatever action is appropriate and I will then approach the ANI. Turtletop (talk) 04:37, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I repeat my advice that you take this to ANI, and get some neutral parties involved.- gadfium 04:55, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Your advice has been taken. I have referred Mr Maggoo to the Wikipedia:Administrators'noticeboard. WP:ANI — Preceding unsigned comment added by Turtletop (talk • contribs) 22:06, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Gadfium, could you please do something about Mr Maggoo. Today he has added further material about the retrial without a citation. When I removed it, he responded by deleting almost the entire retrial section. The ANI achieved nothing. This disruptive editing has got to stop.Turtletop (talk) 20:37, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * He has now added two lengthy paragraphs without a single citation. He knows this is not acceptable. Turtletop (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)


 * was adding material which referenced a 2010 copy of the article on a mirror site of Wikipedia. This is certainly unacceptable, because Wikipedia cannot be used to reference itself, but his action is not an attempt to disrupt but a lack of understanding of the rules for referencing. It would be more useful to explain this to him on the article talk page (or perhaps on his own talk page) than to use edit summaries. It might be acceptable for him to use the references that were used in the 2010 article, but it is also possible that those references were inadequate.- gadfium 05:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Mr Maggoo continues to add material to the David Bain page without citations and delete material he disagrees with. I have brought this up on the Talk page and, per your suggestion, took it to ANI. Nothing has changed. Mr Maggoo continues to ignore all advice that is given to him and continues with his disruptive editing. As a result, the page is constantly changing as a number of editors remove material he adds, or restore material that he deletes because it doesn't fit with his POV that David Bain is guilty. Do you have any other suggestions to resolve this problem? Turtletop (talk) 21:57, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Help needed
Hi Gadfium, could you please lend a hand with this? Some editor is really desperate to get blocked.  Schwede 66  05:10, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Blocked temporarily. is welcome to change the block as he sees fit.- gadfium 05:16, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Sock drawer cleaned. Courcelles (talk) 08:12, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm posting this here for context. When I look at the interest of new editor Wiseguy Wayne (fascination with age of prime ministers) and the editing habits (change NZ spelling to US English), I can only conclude that the sock drawer has filled itself again.  Schwede 66  03:44, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * And given another tidying. Courcelles (talk) 04:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

‎216.73.72.108
Hello. It looks like ‎216.73.72.108 is an old acquaintance of you, so I was wondering if you can deal with that IP once again. Khruner (talk) 20:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅- gadfium 20:54, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

London et al
re peter ellis page

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232602908_Disclosure_of_Child_Sexual_Abuse_What_Does_the_Research_Tell_Us_About_the_Ways_That_Children_Tell

does this help? Richard Christie
 * That's a 34-page paper, and a search (for "Zelas") doesn't seem to work. Can you give me a page number, or is your point that it doesn't support the paragraph in which it is cited?- gadfium 08:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

The London paper should be compared to Zelas's testimony

Karen Zelas Trial Testimony: "With regard to children of this particular age it is consistent with behaviour of  sexually abused children of that age to initially deny any suggestion of abuse at the hands of any particular person.  It is very common.  Many children either deny or fail to disclose sexual  abuse at the time of its occurring.  In fact probably the majority  do so."

http://www.peterellis.org.nz/docs/1993/Trial/P332-422.htm

I'll rewrite the reference and add the link to Zelas's testimony when I get a spare hour or two, unless you do so first - I'm not very good with adding the footnotes links etc to articles, I just try to copy the way others have done it. RichardJ Christie (talk) 23:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Alex Gilbert Article
Hi Gadfium,

I have updated and have found new sources for Draft:Alex Gilbert. Please can we get this to the mainspace and see what happens. The following sources have been found and added. It has had coverage for 2 years now. The new sources cover mostly on his I'm Adopted organisation. The old deletion has nothing to do with the reason to why it was removed. This article has gained alot of sources that I keep on finding. Please with good faith and have a look otherwise I will just keep working on the article more and more with hope that I can get it into the Mainspace. Look at the history of the draft with the new sources that have been added.

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Thank You --DmitryPopovRU (talk) 00:53, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

Why you reverted my edition in the page about the Colonization of Australia?
Why you reverted my edition in the page about the Colonization of Australia?

Because, i putted trues about the life about Australian Aborigines, and they living on administration of the Australian Government, In the times before the colonization of Australia the territory which currently is Australia was undiscovery, unknow by people and the Australia and the Australian government there wasn't. Therefrom the aborigenes were undiscovered and without the needfull government administration.

And why say that the aborigines is property of the Australian government would be offensive?

201.81.64.163 (talk) 22:14, 6 February 2016 (UTC).
 * Your written English is not very good and it can be difficult to understand you. Your edits to articles, while well-meaning, reduce the quality of those articles, and because I am unsure of your exact meaning, I cannot simply tidy the edits.


 * People in modern countries are not owned by anyone or by their governments. Most people would find that considering human beings as property is offensive. Perhaps you mean to use a different term rather than "property", such as "citizens".- gadfium 22:49, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

But the aborigines need the administration de the gardianship of Australia government. The aborigines live on guardianship of government. - 201.81.64.163 (talk) 01:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC).

Cornwall Park, Auckland
Thanks for your additions to the refs. Can't say I like it though, makes things just a little too transparent and easy to dispute! Sometimes when the point seems very minor but needs reporting I may include it under another reference to a more important bit of info.

Having said all that I would be very pleased to have your constructive criticisms if not contributions. After a month or two I might have a go at finding better sources than Papers Past. Trouble is that with old papers only it is so easy to miss a significant event and get the story all wrong. Thanks, Eddaido (talk) 09:39, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

SBC article
Hi again. I just looked at the SBC (Saint Bernard's College) article and it looks fascinating. Still, I waned to help expand the article if possible. Is a section about 'House winners' alright? Or what do you want me to put in there? I'll try my best. Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:32, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
 * When expanding an existing article, it often pays to look at what information a featured article on a similar subject covers. You can see some featured articles on high schools and colleges listed at Featured articles (for example, Amador Valley High School). There are no featured articles on New Zealand schools, but Auckland Grammar School is rated B-class. These articles have much more dense referencing than the St. Bernard's College, Lower Hutt, so in terms of improvement adding references would be my suggested priority.
 * Many articles on New Zealand schools mention the house system, including colours and in some cases mascots or slogans. I notice neither of the articles I've linked to above do so, but I regard this as a reasonable topic for such an article to cover. The history of the house system at a school can be interesting with new houses formed and sometimes complete re-organisations. The names of houses often refer to historical people and if we have an article on these people, that should be linked to. All this should be referenced, but as it is not controversial the school website or a history published by the school is sufficient as reference.
 * We don't usually include which house wins in any given year as this is ephemeral information with little real-world consequence, and I remove any suggestion that "such-and-such house is the best" on sight as being POV.
 * I notice that although there are mentions in the cultural section of a change in school demographics in the 1970s, there is no history section in the SBC article, but history is dealt with in some detail in the articles I linked as examples above. If a book on the school's history has been published, that would be a good place to start. Failing that, combing newspaper archives (including Papers Past) may turn up information of interest.- gadfium 18:20, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Bain family killings article
Hullo again. I am wanting to make a correction to part of that article. You will find the details at the bottom of the David Bain talk page. I am afraid I don't understand Auckland guys reasoning. He argues that even though my correction is valid the article does not need to be changed because my correction is of a trivial nature. Surely if the article is incorrect then it should be corrected no matter how trivial he considers the correction is. Personally I don't believe my correction is trivial. Laniet Bain was not home on the weekend of the 18/19 June 1994. She was only home on the Sunday night and then only at David's insistence according to the testimony of two witnesses. Mr Maggoo (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Stuart McIntyre
I hope you are having a good holiday. When you are back, could you please look at Stuart McIntyre? Some thoughts:
 * A person of this name received an honorary doctorate from Massey University in 2000, so there is somebody of that name who is notable.
 * The article was twice deleted in 2008; could it be the honorary doctor? If so, it could be undeleted so that editors can work on it.
 * And if that wasn't him, I note that article creation is enabled for administrators only. I suggest that protection should be dropped back to autoconfirmed users or something like that.

Thanks a lot. And as I say, there's no hurry; enjoy your time away from WP.  Schwede 66  18:48, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The 2008 article was on an English football manager who didn't appear to be notable. I would be happy to change the protection (if, who applied the protection, agrees) but this would only be necessary if you can identify the person who received the honorary doctorate and intend to work on an article on him in the near future. There is an article on Stuart Macintyre, who has some NZ connections. Could this be the same person?- gadfium 19:45, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Adding photos
I am trying to add photos to some articles, but I don't know how to upload the photos to Wikipedia. Can you advise me how to start the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiwisheriff (talk • contribs)
 * For photos you have taken yourself and are willing to release under a free license, see Commons:Commons:Contributing your own work, then use Commons:Special:UploadWizard For photos taken by other people which they have given you permission to upload, you will also need to contact Commons:Commons:OTRS. For photos which are so old they are now in the public domain, see Commons:Commons:Licensing. Finally, if the photos are not available under a free licence, but you believe there is a case to be made for them to be included in Wikipedia anyway under a "fair use" claim, see Non-free content and upload them to Wikipedia, not Commons, using File Upload Wizard. If you need more help, I suggest you ask at WP:Help desk where they are more experienced than I am at stepping people through the procedures.- gadfium 18:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Cuba-like
Cuba-like was my first choice for getting across the simple fact that visitors to NZ are very aware of all the old once-familiar cars. It needs to be said. Eddaido (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Please include sources.- gadfium 21:16, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Protected George Mason University
Wall Street Journal‎, Washington Post‎,Justice Ginsburg, and the school itself all say not a joke Abel (talk) 21:51, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's wait until 2 April, and if the University hasn't retracted its press release then we can update the articles.- gadfium 21:54, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No newspaper is going to publish a quote by a sitting supreme court justice about her close friend that is fake as a part of a joke: Abel (talk) 23:16, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

"Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Scalia’s colleague on the Supreme Court for more than two decades and a close friend, said in a statement: “Justice Scalia was a law teacher, public servant, legal commentator, and jurist nonpareil. As a colleague who held him in highest esteem and great affection, I miss his bright company and the stimulus he provided, his opinions ever challenging me to meet his best efforts with my own. “It is a tribute altogether fitting that George Mason University’s law school will bear his name. May the funds for scholarships, faculty growth, and curricular development aid the Antonin Scalia School of Law to achieve the excellence characteristic of Justice Scalia, grand master in life and law.”"

- Susan Svrluga


 * Your faith in the integrity of the US press exceeds mine.- gadfium 23:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I get that the administrative block is your way of avoiding the three revert rule, but your instance on sticking with the "April fools prank" theory in direct conflict with multiple reliable sources is embarrassing. Abel (talk) 00:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * See this explanation from someone far more articulate than me. Failing to update this article until 2 April is no big deal. Repeating an April Fools joke in an encyclopedia is.- gadfium 00:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Just a heads up, an admin has apologized for this whole "thinking the name change is April Fools prank" situation. User talk:MusikAnimalFireflyfanboy (talk) 04:28, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. It appears from that post that the name change is not yet final, so waiting for another day still seems appropriate, even if it is legitimate.- gadfium 05:01, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The pending approval from the State Council of Higher Education for Virginia is a rubber stamp process, which is why the school is already acting as if the name change is final. The "apparent controversy" is a sad attempt to save face. Abel (talk) 13:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Report to admins on Ip editor "Claudia"
Hi Gadfium, you may wish to read and comment on my complaint to admins about the IP editor known as "Claudia" at Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard. Your thoughts would be appreciated. BlackCab (TALK ) 04:34, 1 April 2016 (UTC)


 * I have now taken this up at AN/I. See here. Your input would be appreciated. BlackCab  (TALK ) 01:05, 7 April 2016 (UTC)


 * And she's back: Special:Contributions/122.61.168.173. Very little content added so far but marked similarities in writing style. I presume she's still community banned? Daveosaurus (talk) 12:16, 29 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I've left her a message.- gadfium 22:56, 29 May 2016 (UTC)

Wero
This edit seemed unhelpful: you removed unref though it is still valid; un-sorted the stub; messed up the format of the lead sentence; and left a rather cryptic edit summary. Please take more care. Thanks. Pam D  07:46, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * My apologies. I was looking through the history of the page because it seemed bizarre to say "visitors come in readership", and must have edited an earlier version.- gadfium 08:40, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, I hadn't spotted that "readership" thing - and the history of the stub seems altogether strange, with a long-established editor creating an unsourced garble (to which your edit partly reverted). I wonder if there's some past history to it. Have left a note at User_talk:Rich_Farmbrough! Pam  D  12:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Waiheke Island by justbecause09
Hi - thanks for your help with Waiheke page updates... I still think waihekepedia is relevant, but I see that you created it ? If you still want to delete the link onb the Waiheke page - feel free ! Just Because ! (talk) 06:17, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Girl in cake
I noticed that you are one of the leading editors at List of cakes. Do you know if we have an article or content in a section of another article for the type of giant cake from which a model pops out for festive occasions (e. g. this video)? I understand that these are sometimes made largely or entirely of cardboard and frosting, but sometimes there is a real cake outside of the hidden compartment. I have tried surprise cake, pop cake and popup cake.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:40, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

RfC History of South America
Hi Gadfium, you may wish to comment. Kind regards -- Marek . 69    talk  06:56, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of countries by financial assets per capita
There seems to have been some really dodgy stuff happening on the List of countries by wealth per adult page. Information about financial assets was added on by, the main content of the article was removed on  by  and the article renamed on the same day to List of countries by financial assets per capita by , a sock of Muzithebunny.

These edits amounted to deleting List of countries by wealth per adult and creating List of countries by financial assets per capita. My edits amounted to undoing the deletion, but not the creation.

Just today, your by  without explanation. I've added a refimprove to the page for now, but if you still think the page should be deleted, feel free to list it on AfD.

Thanks! George Makepeace (talk) 17:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Shirley Setia
Thanks for add information in shirley setia Pankaj Acharaya (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for weeding Queen Katherine School

 * Thanks. I was following edits by an IP and realised that this article was a frequent target of vandalism and not all had been reverted. I've never heard of this school before, but now it's on my watchlist!- gadfium 21:13, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

IP 213.213.213.81 is at it again
Gadfium, this user, who you have blocked on more than one occasion, is at it again, doing the same types of edits that caused the blocks before. I thought you'd want to know. Thanks for anything you can do; I'm about to start reverting the problematic edits. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

help with move
Hello Gadfium, was just trying to fix a copy-paste move but don't have sufficient permissions. Have restored Wellington City mayoral election, 1910; can you please move it over the existing article Wellington City mayoral by-election, 1910 to complete this? I'll let the editor know about the correct process.  Schwede 66  19:38, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅- gadfium 19:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Protection of Member States of EU
Hi, I just want to know why you protected the Member State of European Union. I saw you said ongoing controversial event but the United Kingdom have left the EU as of today. So it's no longer ongoing. TheHistoryKnower (talk) 05:24, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * They haven't left the EU yet, but they have voted to do so. The actual process of leaving is likely to take months or more probably years.- gadfium 05:30, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Not everyone knows history:)  Schwede 66  05:32, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Winston
Hey Gadfium. Your edit to Winston Peters maybe needs revisiting. His only wife (that I can tell was a schoolteacher called Louise, yonks ago. I think the Pamela in the ref was married to his brother Wayne, and his current partner may still  be Jan Trotman.  It's confusing I know. Cheers Moriori (talk) 21:47, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Oops, thanks for pointing that out.- gadfium 22:09, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

fun with cut and paste moves
If you'd like to take some admin action, have a look at Talk:Henry George Lang.  Schwede 66  00:47, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We'll see whether we've seen the last of it or not.  Schwede 66  01:48, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thought so... Maybe a block is in order.  Schwede 66  02:01, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Goofy
Goofy is quite obviously a cow. Ace McWicked (talk) 21:53, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
 * And what is your source for this?- gadfium 04:56, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Let’s compromise and say he’s a dogcow. We can call him “Moofy”.—Odysseus 1 4 7  9  06:47, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * His significant other is a cow. Dogs mating with cows? Ace McWicked (talk) 20:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Henry Lang
I advise you to make Henry Lang a disambiguation page as you did for George Lang page. This form is confusing for the users since there are many Henry Langs. 212.253.113.70 (talk) 05:10, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * The other people have "Henry" as their middle name. You have been advised on your talk page how to proceed. Why are you not following that advice?- gadfium 05:15, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There are so many different combinations like:

All these combinations should be on Henry Lang - disambiguation page similar to the George Lang - disambiguation page.. Whoever is reverting my corrections can do it better, I guess. 212.253.113.70 (talk) 11:00, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * .......... Henry Lang
 * Henry .......... Lang

Four/Bravo mess
Hey gadfium - would you be able to delete the new Four (New Zealand) page, move Bravo (New Zealand) there, then make a new Bravo page with the content currently at Bravo (New Zealand)? Ollieinc ( talk ) 11:53, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
 * There's been too much done out of process on these pages already. If my existing solution of putting attribution at Talk:Four (New Zealand) is inadequate, I think a formal move request at Talk:Bravo (New Zealand) is the best way to go. The actual page history now belongs to both pages, so an attribution is going to be necessary either way.- gadfium 18:31, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

I have fixed this by moving the Bravo page to Four (NZ) and the Four page to Bravo (NZ). A formal move request will be needed to move them back to their original names. Socks 01 06:34, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you think you are helping, or are you stirring? I can't tell.- gadfium 08:35, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I think they're trying to help - their edits mean that Four has its edit history going back to 2011 rather than that being on the Bravo page. I've requested that they be moved to their original names, with the (New Zealand) disambiguator. Ollieinc  ( talk ) 12:25, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Draft of Wanganui Girl's College: Help
Please can we now promote this draft to a full page.Riverviewhouse (talk) 02:50, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. See Wanganui Girls' College.- gadfium 03:04, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Whanganui High School
Hey Gadfium The school started using the Whanganui spelling from the 23rd May. The school website address has been updated to reflect this and is now http://www.whanganuihigh.school.nz Most services have been updated to reflect this new spelling but we are still in the process of migrating everything over to the new domains. 60.234.120.127 (talk) 21:41, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've updated the article.- gadfium 22:38, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:North Shore City has been nominated for discussion
Category:North Shore City, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.

Just moving it since it's not a city any more. Grutness...wha?  02:26, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Ross Meurant edit
Hi, the information I provided regarding Ross Meurant's appointment is correct. I have personally seen the letter of appointment, plus Ross was congratulated on a Maori TV program on Thursday evening. Please reinstate my comment. Kiwiseller (talk) 23:44, 15 July 2016 (UTC) Kiwiseller (talk) 23:44, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


 * All information on Wikipedia should be verifiable, and this is even more important for articles on living people. If there is no reporting of this in the news media, perhaps it isn't of sufficient importance to go in the article.- gadfium 01:00, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

Not a problem. I'll wait for MFAT to post the appointment on their page next week and then repost. Thank you Kiwiseller (talk) 07:40, 16 July 2016 (UTC)

David Wolfe
Requesting this page to be permanently deleted. It was not created by the subject: David Wolfe or any of his team members. It contains slander and libelous citations. The articles were written by people trying to discredit David Wolfe.

Much of the information is from 20 years ago. David's viewpoint and scientific research has evolved much beyond this initial content. This page is no longer accurate.

Also we have cease and desist requests out from our lawyers to have several items removed from the internet as they had no right to upload this content. NO RELEASES were signed. It is illegal.

There are numerous citations/articles that are not valid. I am requesting that the page be deleted.

Thank you.

AG2457 (talk) 16:19, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I have replied at User talk:AG2457.- gadfium 19:21, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Circa.guide external links from the Histories of Africa, South America and North America
Good day,

I'd like to inquire why you removed the external links I added to the Histories of Africa, South America and North America.

The stated reason was that the links (all to timelines at circa.guide) were not of an academic source.

However, all of the timelines in Circa are based on numerous print as well as web sources. Moreover, all of the sources are properly cited for all of the facts stated in the timelines.

Moreover, many of the external links currently listed on the wiki pages in question are not from academic sources. Take these 4 links from the History of Africa as an example:

1. The Historyscoper (http://historyscoper.com/africahistoryscope.html) - Many of the cited links just refer to Wikipedia articles. I could not find any print sources and very few web sources (other than wikipedia).

2. About.com:African History (http://africanhistory.about.com/od/biography/a/bio-Nyerere.htm) - About is a general website with many of its links just referring back to other About articles. I could not find any print articles referenced.

3. Worldtimelines.org.uk -Africa (http://www.worldtimelines.org.uk/world/africa) - This link is broken, I could not access the page.

4. African Kingdoms, by Khaleel Muhammad (http://www.africankingdoms.com/) - While the contents of this site are definitely extensive I could not find any print sources referenced and the web sources cited are sparse. Moreover the site seems intent on getting the user to purchase merchandise.

Given the dubious quality of the external links already allowed I fail to see why the links to Circa were deleted; especially since the Circa links are based on numerous books and web sources and convey a comprehensive view of the history of the region in question.

Disclosure: I write for Circa but my reason for adding the site to the wiki pages was to provide users a quality external source on the history of the regions in question.

Sincerely, Sorcc (talk) 05:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a web directory, and you have a clear conflict of interest in adding links to your own site. That there are existing links of low quality is no reason for us to accept your links. If you want to help, please post an analysis of existing links to the article talk page - Talk:History of Africa, and give an editor without a conflict of interest a chance to decide which links, if any, add value to the article.- gadfium 08:26, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. Sorcc (talk) 11:26, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

So you don't want the information there for anyone who believes gardening is illegal in New Zealand?
Because alot of people believe it and one quick google search with the relevant information on the wiki would stop the misconception.

I think you are over policing this, Please give me a proper explanation as to why that information shouldn't be displayed.

It is a wiki about gardening in New Zealand and that is relevant information in relation to a misconception, Even though it did in fact stem from reddit.

I have a feeling you just undid my edit without reading it as you have reversed activity from this IP address before, Please review my edit properly and tell me how i am breaching wikis TOS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.157.118.158 (talk) 20:15, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You have previously added information that gardening is illegal, and more recently that this is a hoax. If you are so concerned about warning the public, why did you add it in the first place? Also, discussion groups such as Reddit are not suitable sources.- gadfium 20:18, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Tim Price
Tim Price was previously deleted (10 December 2006). Could you please have a look whether that was the equestrian? If yes, maybe that article should be restored as he's now an Olympian. Otherwise, I'll start that article, as he's started competing in Rio.  Schwede 66  22:26, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The deleted article was on an Australian comedian, and his birth date is different from the NZ Olympian.- gadfium 22:28, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks; article now exists.  Schwede 66  22:48, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

Fun and games with IP editors
Hi Gadfium. I don't think the most recent editor at Māori culture - 122.61.30.182 - is Claudia this time. The reason their reference formatting looks like Claudia's is probably due to copying and pasting the previous reference - the actual content (a statement that Paul Moon is wrong, and the suggestion that Pakeha actions led to the decline of moko kauae) is something I can't see Claudia ever admitting to.

No issue with reversal of the content though - but just because it's unsourced. Daveosaurus (talk) 05:28, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, I've unblocked them.- gadfium 06:16, 8 August 2016 (UTC)


 * This edit looks a bit more like Claudia - I can't be 100% as it's missing any references - it does feature a couple of her 'tells' though - weird irrelevant trivia (the business about peach stones) and weird formatting of Māori place names ("Mere mere" for Meremere or Mere Mere). Daveosaurus (talk) 10:13, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I have reverted the edit. I agree it is probably Claudia. The talk page edit at Lada is very similar to her style of writing (including the failure to sign the post) and is very much within her past range of interests. BlackCab  (<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK ) 11:52, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I had noticed the editor last night but was waiting for more evidence that it is Claudia before I take action.- gadfium 19:20, 21 August 2016 (UTC)


 * I posted a message at the talk page of the IP address stating my suspicion that this was indeed Claudia; he/she has responded "Suspected now lapsed" and is continuing to edit. The ban  in fact gave no indication of a time limit, so Claudia has evidently decided four months is long enough.  BlackCab  (<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK ) 03:10, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

I blocked the IP for a month. The block will be repeated if necessary.- gadfium 08:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. BlackCab  (<font face="Trebuchet MS" size="1">TALK ) 09:57, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Range block?
Hi Gadfium,

You recently blocked for a year and  for 6 months. is also a vandalism-only account. and have also been blocked previously. A rangeblock of 210.55.186.*** seems necessary, but I have no idea how this is arranged. Can you help? Cheers, DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 00:58, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I've rangeblocked the 256 addresses in the range for six months.- gadfium 01:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. DerbyCountyinNZ  (Talk Contribs) 04:40, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Erebus
What's the problem with citing a literary memorial to the Erebus crash -- as opposed to the steel memorials? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.54.199.89 (talk) 22:41, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You need a third-party source which explains why this is significant. See WP:Identifying reliable sources.- gadfium 22:45, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

My Edit
Why does my edit to Eureka Nunuvet bad? It was just a colour change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.9.90.68 (talk) 22:49, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You also changed "|precipitation colour = green" to "|precipitation colo", which is not constructive. You made the same change at Alexandra, New Zealand. Why?- gadfium 03:57, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Mover over redirect
Could you please move John Shera (politician) to John Shera over the existing redirect, as the dab is not needed? I've checked and there are no incoming links that need tidying up.  Schwede 66  23:59, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅.- gadfium 00:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Bain murders
Hi gadfium. You recently posted a warning on my Talk page about edit warring. Thanks for the headsup - I was not aware of that.

I took your advice and started a discussion on the Bain murders Talk page. I now find myself in war of words with Akldguy about what Joe Karam believed. Please read [|the discussion] to get the background. Akldguy asked for a quote from Karam where he says he believes David Bain was innocent. I did even better. I provided an entire book of Karam's on this very subject: Innocent!: seven critical flaws in the conviction of David Bain. Akldguy refuses to accept this. Can you take a look please and see if there is anything you can do to break this impasse. Histrange (talk) 19:22, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

New Zealand Army Nursing Service
Hi Gadfium. You posted a warning on this page about close paraphrasing of copyright text. I've added a note to the Talk page to clarify why I don't think it applies. Could you have a look at either remove the template or leave a response? Thanks! Ammienoot (talk) 18:28, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

He's back....
User talk:216.222.120.167

with [| about the same quality of edit]. Anmccaff (talk) 20:35, 19 September 2016 (UTC)