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The Bugle: Issue CXLI, January 2018
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WikiProject Wikify: Current Backlog Reduction Plan
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Umpire photos
Hi. I noted that you added a photo recently of umpire Aleem Dar in his Wikipedia page. Do you have any such photo available for umpire Marais Erasmus as well? Would be great if you can provide one if possible. Cricket246 (talk) 07:46, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Cricket246! I didn't upload the image, rather I cropped it from one I found already on Wikimedia Commons. I having been able to find a usable image of Marais Erasmus yet, but I will have another look. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 10:16, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've found one that's okay. Its not great, but its better than nothing. It has been added to the article. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 10:31, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Great job friend... Thank you 😁 Cricket246 (talk) 10:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 10:42, 18 January 2018 (UTC)


 * Wanted to ask you can we put in images that were released by ICC as they are supposedly meant for free use?? What's the process of doing that?? There are several good photos of umpires actually released by ICC... Also I was looking for a photo of umpire Joel Wilson!! Cricket246 (talk) 10:49, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I'm not the person to ask about that. Asking at Help desk would get you a quick reply. I'll keep an eye out for Joel Wilson. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 10:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks 🙂 Cricket246 (talk) 18:40, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

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Don Brothwell
The problem with the Don Brothwell article's account of his conscientious objection, as it was before my amendment and as you have now chosen to revert it, is that it purports to state two legal impossibilities:

1) It claims that DB was "called up" immediately upon completing his A-levels, with no mention of any intervening procedure, thereby implying that there was none. In fact, however, the requisite legislation, the National Service (Armed Forces) Act 1948, Section 9 (1), provided that no man could be called up unless he had been duly certified fit for armed forces service by a duly constituted medical board set up for that specific purpose. This was by no means a mere academic nicety, as it meant that so long as a man refused to co-operate with the medical board by submitting to a physical examination, he could not actually be called up - doctors refused to use their own force during an examination, or to examine a man forcibly held by a third party.

2) In saying that DB was prosecuted, no specific charge or offence is stated. The reader is therefore left to infer that the charge must have related to the immediately preceding sentence - DB "became a conscientious objector", apparently thereby committing the offence of being s CO. In fact, as distinct from the situation in many other countries, there has never been such an offence in British law.

So, as consciously reverted by you, the article purports to state the legal impossibility that DB was called up without any prerequisite medical examination, and it also purports to state the legal impossibility that DB was prosecuted, fined and ultimately imprisoned for the non-existent offence of being a conscientious objector.

So much for the article's sins of commission. It also omits to state anything about the actual legal procedures for conscientious objectors as they would have affected DB, and omits to state the basis whereon ten months of DB's sentence was ultimately remitted.

As soon as I read the article, I obviously saw the misleading nonsense it purveyed and now, at your choice, continues to purvey, which is clearly unfair both to Don Brothwell and the uninformed reader. I therefore reconstructed the scenario in the ONLY way it could LEGALLY have happened, and ACTUALLY happened in many similar cases.

As to referencing, I consciously left in the existing references, trusting that at least the germ of the truth lies in them, however much metamorphosed by previous attempts at paraphrasing. I have no independent references of my own on Brothwell, but I am familiar with the minutiae of British CO legislation and thousands of CO cases.

In the hope that Wikipedia encourages accuracy rather than misrepresentation, I look forward to your reasoned argument. Mountdrayton (talk) 19:47, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your detailed explanation. However, Wikipedia relies on verifiability through reliable sources rather than original research in its articles. The above falls under original research as did your edits to the article on Don Brothwell. At the time of my expansion, the article was under the "protection" of the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons guidelines which are very strict. The wording as it is is directly supported by references. Please do have a read of the above links as they will help clarify anything that I haven't made clear. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 22:01, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

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Is it a stub?
You destubbed Catherine Pickstock, but an IP disagrees with you. Pam D  10:02, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up PamD! I've expanded it a bit more and reviewed it again/removed the stub templates. In case you didn't know already, User:142.161.81.20 is an experienced and frequent editor who, for whatever reason, doesn't want to get a username. They can be troublesome at times but most of their contributions are well meaning. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 17:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for that info. Pam  D  23:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXLII, February 2018
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