User talk:Gamma~enwiki

Welcome to Wikipedia! What's the problem with the margin in LOOM? It looks fine in my browser (Mozilla). --Eloquence 21:57 29 May 2003 (UTC)

The picture was somewhere on the left side and overlapped the text. Now (without "margin...") it sits on the right, which looks good. I have Netscape4.79 here. Gamma 22:06 29 May 2003 (UTC)

I see that you restored the old setting, so it looks messy again. Do you want a screenshot ? Gamma 22:09 29 May 2003 (UTC)

I believe you and will accept the previous revision if you explain to me why you use that messy old beast. It doesn't even come close to CSS support. If you fear Mozilla's bloat, check out Mozilla Firebird. --Eloquence 22:16 29 May 2003 (UTC)

CSS+JS are active. This machine is quite slow (100 MHz), so I didn't want to add more demanding software. Outside Wikipedia (without JS) NS4.7 is quite usable (for me, at least) Gamma 22:30 29 May 2003 (UTC)

The problem is that Netscape 4 claims to support CSS, but doesn't. If it silently ignored CSS, no problems would result. But its support is half-baked, so you get images overlapping with text and stuff like that. I know that NS 4 is usable, I used it myself for a long time. Except for the occasional crash and some pages that would load very slowly (usually tables) it was an accpetable choice, but is now simply very outdated, and the fact that people keep using it makes it hard to design decent webpages. Note that we still use margin: on quite a few pages.

Give Firebird a try, CPU and RAM requirements are really not that different. If you have 32 MB or more, Firebird should work. --Eloquence 22:39 29 May 2003 (UTC)

Ok, I can give it a try. But it the layout looked good without that "margin"-part even in NS, does it break something for Mozilla (or any other browser) ? Gamma 22:49 29 May 2003 (UTC)


 * Well, the problem is that the caption is now directly adjacent to the text, making it somewhat harder to read. This could be fixed by putting the whole thing in a table, but someone else would probably come along and turn it into CSS again, because that's so much simpler HTML. --Eloquence 22:57 29 May 2003 (UTC)

I installed Mozilla-Firebird, and gave it a spin. It has some nice features (Cookie-Handling, Browser-Tabs...) but it is painfully slow on my machine (P2-100,64MB,Win98). For example, "add bookmark": from the moment I click "OK" until the start of the "button-down"-animation, it takes more than 10 seconds. This might not be a problem for all those gamers with top-end pcs, but I'm sure there are some people out there with lesser machines, e.g. in schools or certain countries. Gamma 22:46 31 May 2003 (UTC)


 * Ugh, didn't expect it to be so slow. That's probably because Firebird uses XUL for its graphical user interface, and not the native Windows API. There's a Windows-only Mozilla fork called K-Meleon which is based on the native GUI, that one should be faster. Firebird has the advantage of being cross-platform. --Eloquence 22:52 31 May 2003 (UTC)

Ok, I can try that tomorrow. With that name, it sounds like it belongs to KDE... Gamma 23:20 31 May 2003 (UTC)

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