User talk:Gaogao33

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Hello, Gaogao33, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your edits have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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Hello Gimme danger,

Thank you for your welcome message! Concerning the edit on Camille Saroyan wikipedia page, I will try to explain why, even though the Bones creators have not yet confirmed in the story that Camille Saroyan was armenian, she actually is. You would be right to tell that an -ian or -yan ending does not guarantee that a name is Armenian. Killian, for example, is not. Yet nobody will ever find any serious source arguing that the family name Saroyan is anything else than armenian. The Federation of East European Family History Societies website, named by Family Tree Magazine one of the "101 best websites" for genealogy ni 2008, includes Saroyan in the list of armenian last names. In America, for example, there was a famous armenian-american dramatist and novelist named William Saroyan, who grew up in Fresno, California. Do you think it would be right to add some of these links to the Camille Saroyan's page, in order to prove that she has an armenian background? Please feel free to notice me if you have questions or remarks. All the best,

External link
Gaogao33 (talk) 19:48, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The wikipedia page on armenian nicknames using the same references that consider the word Saroyan as armenian

original research
Yes, Saroyan is an Armenian name. We know that. However, you have not presented an ounce of reliable sourcing that says that Camille Saroyan, a fictional character, is Armenian. What you've presented here may be interesting, but it is your own original research, as explained to you above, and therefore not allowable. And you are making the connection from your research into the name to the character on the tv show - your connection, not a sourced connection, not a connection that has been made by the show or by any independent reliable source, as far as I can see. Our standard for inclusion is verifiability - meaning, you have to have reliable sources that state that this particular fictional character is Armenian, in order to say so in the article. Not that the name "Saroyan" is Armenian. If you can find reliable sourcing - even script dialogue or an interview with the show's creator or similar - that explicitly states that Camille is Armenian, then it can be included. But you can't say that she is Armenian merely because other people with that name are. She is a fictional character, portrayed by an African American actress (as is the character's sister). Until she is specifically identified as Armenian, we leave it out. Feel free to discuss this on Talk: Camille Saroyan if you like, but please stop adding this to the article or to the article that lists Armenians. See WP:OR and WP:verifiability among other policy pages. Thank you. Tvoz / talk 04:19, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Please stop adding this
Please stop. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Tvoz / talk 03:22, 19 December 2009 (UTC)