User talk:Garethbaillie

Hello, I'm Joel.Miles925. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

Speedy deletion nomination of Kooga Rugby


A tag has been placed on Kooga Rugby, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Espresso Addict (talk) 20:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion
The article which you are wondering about was marked for speedy deletion was marked for speedy deletion because it reads like company PR. For example: "Kooga Rugby Limited was established in 1997 in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, England. In July 2009 the brand was purchased by JD Sports plc who help to provide the financial backing to develop the brand and ensure Kooga provides top quality product for it’s retail partners and Professional Clubs. In February 2014, Kooga relocated the main head office to Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire.

The product range has been developed to fulfil all the needs of a modern athlete and supporter from training and match play equipment and clothing to a lifestyle range as well as an extremely successful boot range. The emphasis has always been on design excellence, performance, durability and innovation.

Today Kooga is recognised as one of the few remaining authentic rugby brands in the market place. Our current sponsorship agreements include Leicester Tigers The Scarlets, Worcester Warriors, Yorkshire Carnegie and The Uruguay National Team in Rugby Union. In Rugby League Kooga sponsor the famous Huddersfield Giants.

Previous sponsorships include the Wallabies, Fiji, Canada, USA plus Harlequins, London Irish, The Ospreys, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Northamption Saints and Newcastle Falcons.

In 2012, Kooga launched 2 additional product streams to its portfolio. We now offer a bespoke kit option with new short lead times and innovative designs. In addition we also offer a fashion based leisure range."

It reads like it may have been copied from the Kooga website. The use of "we" is also not encyclopedic and the article is completely biased. If you want more help on writing a good article of this type, pattern it off of the Wikipedia guidelines on writing your first article. Joel.Miles925 (talk) 14:55, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Kooga Rugby
Thank you for your reply, this is a great help. If I go in and edit my text so it is less biased based on the Wikipedia guidelines am I able to put this information back onto the Kooga Rugby page or make a new page called Kooga Rugby and put it on there?

Also Wikipedia would not let me put Kooga Rugby's website (www.kooga-rugby.com) on the page, because it says it is blacklisted. Are you able to shed any light on why this is and how can I resolve this matter.

Thank you

Garethbaillie (talk) 16:02, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your query, Garethbaillie. There are a few problems with the article you started, which has since been deleted. For a start, I am not certain whether or not Kooga Rugby is independently notable, as a brand of JD Sports, where it is already mentioned. To demonstrate notability will require reliable references that are independent of both Kooga and JD Sports, for example national newspapers or books. In addition, the article you created was highly promotional, reading like an advert for the product, rather than an encyclopedic description. The use of "we" is never appropriate, nor is the inclusion of addresses or telephone numbers for sales outlets. It is usually best to quote independent experts about attributes of the product. Hope this is helpful! Regards, Espresso Addict (talk) 20:05, 8 March 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Garethbaillie. It looks like the redirect from "Kooga" to Beyond Limits Known was deleted on 2 March 2016 after you blanked the page, but there are still several redirects for other spellings, particularly KooGa which was created by Anthony Appleyard, another admin. It would be best to take up the details of whether the redirect remains appropriate directly with him, as this is not an area where I have any knowledge. More generally, as someone editing Wikipedia on behalf of a client you should carefully review the policy on conflict of interest and in particular paid-contribution disclosure before editing, as "Editors who are compensated for their contributions must disclose their employer, client and affiliation with respect to any paid contributions. They must do this on their main user page, or on the talk page accompanying any paid contributions, or in edit summaries." Espresso Addict (talk) 22:34, 10 March 2016 (UTC)


 * At 08:29, 25 September 2015‎ I obeyed a request to history-merge page KooGa to page Beyond Limits Known. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:01, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Garethbaillie has explained why he wants the redirect deleted on my talk page; see User talk:Espresso Addict. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC)