User talk:Garion96/Archive 5

Image:IndianapolisColts 1001.png …using wikEd
Hi Garion95,

I saw that you'd removed the tags for Fair Use Rationale and Licensing on this image. I believe that there are still some issues.
 * Nothing on the page identifies the copyright holder of the image. (sportslogo.net is not the holder)
 * The use of the Logo tag is part of the answer regarding Fair Use, but there is no detailed Fair Use Rationale on the page.

I've been suggesting that the several folks who have been uploading and using images with this sort of information use something like the following:

User:Soxrock asserts that the limited use of this copyrighted image in Wikipedia articles directly pertaining to it is a fair use of the image, for the following reasons:
 * It is of the logo, helmet or uniform of an NFL team which retains the copyright.
 * It was obtained from the Sportslogos.net website which serves only to collect and archive these images.
 * No free-license alternatives are available that convey the same information.
 * The image is no larger, and of no higher quality, than required for its use in articles.
 * It is used in Wikipedia only for educational purposes and is not used for profit.
 * Its use on Wikipedia does not compete with the copyright holder.
 * Its use on Wikipedia is not expected to decrease the value of the copyright to its holder.

So, I need to calibrate myself, please and would appreciate your advice.

Thanks, Larry --Lmcelhiney 19:46, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

The Amazing Race
I saw that you removed the copyvio. I went ahead and added them back into the article and removed the oprhan tag. --evrik (talk) 20:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The Clowns
 * Filming Crew in Amsterdam
 * Kelly and Jon

Next Nature
Hello, i've seen you deleted the nextnature entry. It was deleted earlier because of promotional items. The page I put up is not a copy of the earlier deleted page, but a cleaned up definition with all biased and promotional stuff taken out. So I propose to keep this page now. --nextnature (talk) 22:02, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello Garion96,

Ok I took the article to the deletion review. This article was poluted with some self promotional links and then wrongly deleted as non-notable. Multiple publications, conferences have had this subject as a topic and multiple institutions are working on the topic. I've cleaned up the article. Please do not delete but add constructive feedback to make this a good entry. --nextnature (talk) 06:02, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Next nature. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Nextnature 09:57, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Tom Wishton
Hi there - in asking for more categories for the Tom Wishton article, could you stop removing the categories that ARE there? While I am searching for futher accurate categories, it makes it harder to work on if you keep removing them. If you have a suggestion of how you want this article to be categorized, I'd like to hear. Thanks. Magichands 21:07, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeesh, it makes me look like a real geek when I get the article title wrong. Tom Wishon is what I meant to say.  I still don't know the appropriate categories to add, and I'm trying to clear a tasklist..... Magichands 21:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply - perhaps I'm feeling sensitve about this because I have been cranking along for weeks now, determined to categorize every bleeding article. It's possible I will die trying. Magichands 21:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Dyslexia
No - you are right it is just a dyslexic author :-) Giano 12:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Nice to se some one is actually reading it! Giano 12:32, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

: for linking Cats
Ty for your edit - I am always forgetting the : when linking cats lol. Cheers Lethaniol 23:00, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
re: Db-authored: Template:Commonscat2R


 * Hi, do you want to delete What links to Template:Commonscat2R? Since the way you did it, it made articles/categories like Category:Maps by century shown on which the template was used to have a speedy delete tag. Garion96 (talk) 18:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * AH-- Oops! Maybe I didn't back to that edit yet, had thought I'd converted all. Thanks much, fixed now. See the revised link above. I was in the middle of modifying Commonscat1A to be the sole template. '!' will do the same thing soon. // Fra nkB 18:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes to your last... I just rv'd your rv of me, so kill it. Thought for a moment you might be an Tufts University alumni/friend, but I guess you're British. Thanks for the assist. I'm really too tied up with WP:TSP to be playing with these right now, but David Kernow was making a mountain out of a molehill... So doing what should have been done a while back and consolidating them. Best regards, and thanks again. // Fra nkB 19:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's gone. Gotta love Wikipedia, articles about everything. I just had to look up Tufts University. :) Garion96 (talk) 19:21, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah -- Understand that! But get my wife to understand! Good luck! I pay you big money, you betchya! Impossible accomplishment deserve ample remuneration! Cheers. // Fra nkB 19:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Cascading
Does the system have to update or something? 4chan still not open to editing--The Negotiator 19:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

American films
Please see User talk:PS2pcGAMER. THanks. And no the template is not to go on every page but the most important films and memebrs of the industry e.g won or nominated for awards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 22:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I have given the criteria. Look what can the harm be in plpacing it at the very foot of the pages if it doesn't have too many tmeplates. Just what is wrong with that? You really disappoint me the both of you at not discussing this with me further, Very disapoointed in you ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 22:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I am trying to help not vandalise remember ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 23:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi Garion, I guess WP Films stole my heart and I haven't been around the Monty Python area for a while. Thanks for clarifying that your vote goes only for American Cinema. Blofeld tends to take things personally when it comes to AfD's, but actually this is a concern of the project in general. Unfortunately discussion on these templates has been going on in user pages and it's hard to coordinate who does what when and how. If these templates are used wisely they can add to Wikipedia something very useful and motivate/organize growth in less developed areas. I warned against using it in individual film articles, but a start was done in some foreign films and a very positive feedback started coming in. I was just discussing with Blofeld about being extra careful on American cinema, but things went hasty, not entirely by his fault. Of course when we deal with American cinema the scope is huge both in films and in biographies. However if we use the template for all other countries, it could conceivably find some limited useful application here too. We can find some key articles which are in line with other counties' cinemas and limit it there. Anyway glad to cross your path again. Hoverfish Talk 18:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

HI again. Apologies if I sounded a little annoyed its just when I get a general feeling the templates are regarded by many and then I see them all up for deletion you can see why I lost my temper. As I said the US template is too generic and should and was ony intended on award wining/nominated core articles. Of course the US industry is so huge that to put that template on every page would be silly -very much like an NBA template on every basketball player. I would like to see it on the CInema of United States page, Academy Awards and Golden Globes and Oscar winning films/cinema people only. THis also marks the pages as "elite" pages for American film. However on world cinema pages the majority are not well connected or understood and are a very useful tool -it also standardizes the articles by the industry involved making articles flow and seem less alienated. I hoped they would improve an understanding of other cinema in a world in which American cinema dominates. OK amigo? Hey I managed to get WIkiProject Tibet up and running anyway -I have done a lot of work there -a good way to improve that section I think ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "I've been expecting you" 11:32, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Note I wasn''t going to bother with the US template at all and it was the last template created!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 11:35, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Amazing Race pictures...
Can you please tell me why you have removed the imagevio tags from Image:Eric-and-Danielle.jpg and the other images? What is your rationale for believing the images are not copyvio? I was fairly stunned with this... particularly because the images are orphaned because they could not be used within the fair use guidelines. -- PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  03:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * You know I never think I knew that distinction...?! although now you say that it makes sense. I couldn't figure out from the note you left me whether you thought they qualified as fair use or not... but it appears not seeing that you've tagged the images as RFU.  I should have just done that in the first instance! --  PageantUpdater  •  talk  |  contribs  |  esperanza  06:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio's had been removed
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Institute of Design IIT. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Dual Freq 13:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for your support during my recent RfA. I appreciate it. Shimeru 16:21, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Article You Deleted -- Dr. Jonathan Fielding
I recently wrote an article named Jonathan Fielding, however you removed it and now there is no history of it in my Contributions page. The materials I used were provided by Dr. Fielding and were from his standard bio and resume. Ture, some of this is published elsewhere on the web as he is a member of many prestigious organizations which uses some of the bio information to describe him on various web sites. I tried to explain that in the Discussion section, nevertheless you decided to remove the Article as a copyright violation. Dr. Fielding, who is the Director of Public Health for Los Angeles County, has made many contributions to Public Health and has been nationally recognized. I think he deserves an entry in Wikipedia. Can you restore the article, and I will re-write sections so that it is no longer word for word found on other sites (but contain the same information). Best Dr. Strassburg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mstrassburg (talk • contribs). 11:42, 18 March 2007

I see that you have an entry on my Discussion page regarding this, here is my response to you:

Yes, Dr. Fielding has provided me with the materials including the latest photo. Obviously, he uses this in many places. I am happy to work on a new article, however, I did write a number of sections specifically for Wikipedia and would like to be able to obtain a copy of that. I guess I did not keep a copy, as I never thought something so basic as information from a standard bio written by the owner (Dr. Fielding) would have so many copyright issues. Where can I get a copy of my original article? Thanks Dr. Strassburg Mstrassburg 11:00, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mstrassburg"

Both Dr. Fielding and I have emailed the Wikimedia Communications Committee indicating that Dr. Fielding is granting permission to use his materials and image. Is it possible to get the article resotred now?

Thanks Marc Mstrassburg

"Wikimedia Communications Committee; Attached is the permission from Dr. Fielding to use his materials (text and image) on the wikipedia article entilted Jonathan_Fielding which was removed due to Copyright violation.  Hopefully the article can now be restored as both the article has been removed and all my edits are no longer listed under my User Contributions. Thank you. Dr. Strassburg"

and From Dr. Fielding; "I am writing to confirm that permission is granted to use materials which I created related to my background, resume, biography under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL) and which are used in the article Jonathan_Fielding in Wikipedia, as well as my personal image which was uploaded as jfielding001.jpg."

David Cross
I really dont know what you mean. The fact is there are four of them and so out of a sense of egality they should share one disambiguation page. Every one else does.

As I said, he is not well known outside of the USA and the Wikipedia is an international project so none of your Yankee Imperialism. I am sure David Cross (actor) would not appreciate it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lulworth (talk • contribs) 21:38, 21 March 2007 (UTC).

The Constitarian Party
Garion,

You deleted the page about The Constitarian Party because of copyright violation with a user on u4prez.com, and you stated it was a direct copy. I would like to clarify that I am the user on u4prez (feel free to compare names) and the wikipedia page existed first. Would you please repost the page and/or e-mail me at theconstitarian@gmail.com with any questions. thank you, Bob Bunton —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bob Bunton (talk • contribs). 03:02, 23 March 2007

Image: Bakenshark.jpg
Hello, you deleted this image, which was located on Maracas Beach, and Cuisine of Trinidad and Tobago. Just wondering why it was deleted. It had received the administrative approval previously. Thatopshotta

Change in Template:DRV top
Just a heads-up that I made a small change in the DRV top (or drt) template: the level 4 header, with a (closed) marker, is now part of the template. So any discussion can now be closed by simply replacing the four equal signs on each side of the title into the the template text:  ==== [[Title]] ====  is changed to  Title  which turns into

Title (closed)
Hope that makes closures a bit easier. Comments and questions please here. Take care, trialsanderrors 08:43, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Village pump Talk archive?
Talk archive? – What talk archive? The removed comments were in my opinion irrelevant to the topic of the talk page, or had been copied/moved to some other place – ok, thinking about it, maybe the question about where to post an announcement and the apology for reverting the pump page were not irrelevant, and Trödel's question too, and maybe some more – ok you are right. But I have restored the minor clean-up I did before you reverted. --83.253.36.136 10:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm new here
I'm new to Wikipedia and have added an article that you, apparently, have deleted. I'm just learning this site and before I can create links to other articles, etc the one I'm working on gets deleted... what is the policy on deletions / how long you allow someone to learn the "system" here and get something developed? It's very frustrating... I'm fairly sure that I haven't violated any copyrights, but you seem to think I have... Please let me know... regards, pballard10 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pballard10 (talk • contribs). 03:47, 30 March 2007

Image:Gibi.jpg
Why is this image questionable? No notation on discussion page. --Merhawie 20:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC) Regarding this image, see the link in the template to Possibly unfree images, specifically tohere. There is no mention on the source site that the images are released under the GFDL or CC license. Garion96 (talk) 22:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I personally contacted the owner of the website and he has agreed to release them under the CC in the way that I presented on the the image. How will I make sure that every admin is aware of this? --Merhawie 22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Send a copy of that e-mail to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org. That way a tag will be placed on the image talk page confirming the release. See Talk:American Association for Laboratory Animal Science for an example of that. Garion96 (talk) 22:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So you are saying I would have to do that on every page where one of his pictures appear?--Merhawie 22:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * No, the permission received tag will only be placed on the image page or image talk page, by the person answering the permissions-en e-mail. See for an image example Image:Buffy The Vampire Slayer cast2.jpg, an image I uploaded and where I e-mailed the e-mail exchange to the permissions-en e-mail. There is a place where the ticket number of the OTRS (the permissions-en email) is mentioned. Garion96 (talk) 22:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * do you have any recommendations for my situation where I have uploaded MANY pictures from this persons website (he gave me blanket permission). --Merhawie 23:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

All in good fun
Relax and stop being so uptight, mate. Can't you take a bit of humor? It's April Fool's, remember? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RigilKent (talk • contribs) 18:45, 31 March 2007 (UTC).

Alright, alright! Lighten up. Anyway, look how I turned your dark, sour notes to perky encouraging ones on my talk page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RigilKent (talk • contribs). 19:00, 31 March 2007

Mistaken bot
Looks like a grab conflict there..... on rare occasion the bot misfires -- Tawker 16:20, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Help desk
Hi. I hope you won't consider this question to be rude. I am curious as to why you reverted the last post at the Help Desk about the birthplace of Emeka Ojukwu. The post raised a legitimate question about the accuracy of an article. I have seen many similar posts at the Help Desk. If it wasn't an act of vandalism, why revert it? --Vbd (talk) 15:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I'm always trying to learn more about the inner workings of WP, and I wasn't sure if I was missing something.  And thanks for doing the re-revert.  I did a quick Google search and it looks like the post is correct.--Vbd (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

About filmography templates...
...being placed in the middle of biography articles. There is a discussion about it in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Films and since it also concerns the Peter Sellers page (and since I see you've been at it already), you might be interested to tip us with your opinion. Hoverfish Talk 20:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Jindřichův Hradec - copyvio
Hello, I have answered your question on the Jindřichův Hradec copyvio tag on my talk page. Jan.Kamenicek 21:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Decision about the US Cinema template
After receiving complaints about the inclusion of Template:CinemaoftheUS in film articles, I have discussed the issue with Blofeld, and (at least) the two of us agree that it is removed from American film articles (see also talk page). Hoverfish Talk 20:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Deeply appreciated, thank you Garion. Hoverfish Talk 22:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but you need to tell me why is there decisions made in this wikipedia place without the owner.
DUDE!, what are you doing man. Why have you guys deleted pictures of a famosue Albanian actress, from the bio i made... Are you guys stubit or act like it. You take some pictures out of a encyclopedia, where is is in every book in Europe that talks about her...

Please explain to me, why you guys take pictures out when someone puts them there for the world so see this person was her..??? Thanks.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niklogoreci (talk • contribs). 01:06, 7 April 2007

Malayalam films
Of course I moved the information. I condensed it and I stated this in the speedy delete tag. Now I have to go and do it again ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 13:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Did you not bother to check List of Malayalam films. Now we have duplicate lists  ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 13:23, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

OK i think I'll create the redirects this way we can see the edit history. Its better to condense the lists also once they are stabdardized they should be condensed further still- Sorry to take it personally again its just the few times when I encounter opposition or questioning it always seems to be from you!! I with Hoverfish have also decided to remove the American tmeplate from all film and bio articles and have it in only a few core articles. I don't mind people questioning my work but when they revert or put things up for afd or tfd it does waste a lot of time. Regards ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦  "Expecting you" Contribs 13:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Hey no problems mate. But can we kind of clear the air between us -I can see you are a quality user and do a good job. All the best and apologies for our first encounters!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 14:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Re
Hi dear Garion...that image is a picture that I find on Fish base... It is legaly do not warry because is a drowing and the drowings contents into that site are legaly, because it is writ in this way on that site...Could you see it? Flavio/Tigre Reietta 13:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Alas my dear friend alas alas alas now What could I do? I do not have a heart for destroy that images... Exist a way to preserves them? Could you write to fish base for asking them to give our those images? Or if it is unrealizable...Could you destroy them? Flavio/Tigre Reietta 14:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Alas alas dear Garion...but is right because I wrong to upload that images...but...I swore you that I did not upload that images for vandalizing wikipedia... forgive me... your Flavio/Tigre Reietta 14:45, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

PAs on LBP.
They put it back again using. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, can you remove the stuff they put back though? I'm getting wary of 3RR. Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 19:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Trevor Loflin
Please note that the section of SAT to which the page on Trevor Loflin was merged has been deleted, and for good reason; the information on Trevor Loflin was entirely inappropriate in that article. I have nominated the article on Mr. Loflin for deletion a second time. Based on your participation either in the article on Trevor Loflin or in the previous afd, you may wish to participate in the article's present deletion discussion. Thanks. Niffweed17, Destroyer of Chickens 19:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Question
Could you please tell me why User:Andyjsmith is allowed and permitted to remove comments from his talk page but User:Bradles 01 is not? Please leave andswer on bradles_01's talk page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.49.216.231 (talk) 06:29, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

List of people with epilepsy
Thanks for catching that blanking. I thought the section on Muhammad was pretty balanced. Perhaps it is to subtle? Cheers, Colin°Talk 11:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Martin Setchell
Hi Garion96, can you tell me please why on earth you deleted the entry for Martin Setchell? There was no copyright infringement whatsoever as the photo I uploaded was my own property! Can you tell me the reason and how I can reinstate the article? thanks Jenny Setchell setchells@gmail.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Churchmouse-nz (talk • contribs). 01:43, 9 April 2007

Sikh names
I see you removed the copyvio notice from Sikh names. That's okay, since I was never really able to substantiate the copyvio to my satisfaction either. However, if someone does ever demonstrate an infringement, it will obviously have to be deleted. Superm401 - Talk 03:52, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Image deletion
Could you perhaps explain the deletion of Image:Imageshackfront2.png? I wasn't even aware it had been nominated as such and last I checked it was licensed properly as a screenshot of the webpage. I went back and found it nominated by a bot, but the reasoning makes no sense.--Crossmr 22:16, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clearing that up. Was the image changed? (I can't see the history now). I didn't recall the image having a copyright stamp on it.--Crossmr 01:51, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Doctor Who Reference on Converse All-Stars
Just interested as to why you removed the reference to Doctor Who on the Converse_all-stars entry. It was described as being "too trivial" but was, after all, in the "Trivia" section. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tobybarrett (talk • contribs) 11:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC).

Template:Idw-cp
I replied on my talk page. – Quadell (talk) (random) 14:14, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Picton Castle (ship)
Hi Garion, A while back you reverted the article Picton Castle (ship) to a much earlier version to remove a possible copywright violation. I'm not aware of anything regarding the copywright vio, but there was a section of the article that I'd written, to do with a crewmember who'd been washed overboard and killed last fall, that I'd like to reinclude. I looked in the article history and it all seems to have disappeared, only the last two revisions after the delete are shown. Is there any way to get the last revision of the old article back to work with? 205.193.97.2 17:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC) (actually User:burtonpe)
 * Just in case you don't login. I replied on User talk:Burtonpe. Garion96 (talk) 18:38, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

about the images of Marie Logoreci
Hey, whast up. First of all sorry about the other message i was actually pissed of at my friend and I even wrote to you like i was very pissed. Sorry about that. I understand about the rules and stuff. but I am Niki Logoreci, Marie Logoreci's grandson. my dad Pjerin Logoreci is the copyright holder of those photos. (Even though some where from the film). There where given to him by the AQSHF (Arkivi Qendror Shteteror i Filmit) (The Goverment Archive of Albanian Films.) after she passed away. But hey if the rules are likek that its all cool. Thanks. Sorry for the first message that I was pissed.

Niklogoreci 20:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Mother Teresa image - thanks
Thanks for adding the new image. Let me know if you should happen onto any higher res images we can use as the initial photo for the article. It would help considerably, especially since we hope to get this article to GA status over the next few weeks. Majoreditor 21:44, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

NerriTunn
I'm genuinely curious. How could anyone ever come to that conclusion from observing my userpage, which has a link to a Times article in which my gender is prominently confirmed? Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 17:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Van Halen Image
Q:Do you think the fuzzy headshot should be highlighted in the infobox box as opposed to the classic rock image ? Thinking the positioning of the two should be reversed. He's known for being a guitar player and would seem to be better represented as such than by a weak 14 year old headshot. Thoughts ? Dannyg3332 19:46, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Hall of Shame
now they have gone too far and taken my idea i had back in 2005!...help!? heres the link! http://thewikipediahallofshame.blogspot.com/ thank you. cathytreks 22:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Template:PD-India-Gov
I got some feedback on the template and the consensus seems to be no. The reason they are saying not is that we cannot use the image for any purpose and from what I can tell, we cannot modify the images. Sorry, but it has to go. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems
Of the ones that you pointed out to me, there were two that I fixed (they weren't really copyvios), the article really should get a rewrite, and the rest should get deleted. The userpage ones (the white castle logo and the easter bunny) are going to be a real pain to orphan. It might be courteous to replace the bunny statue with a freely licensed easter bunny drawing instead of orphaning it. Jkelly 19:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)