User talk:GaryTarr

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Hello, GaryTarr, and welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate encyclopedic contributions, but some of your recent contributions seem to be advertising or for promotional purposes. Wikipedia does not allow advertising. For more information on this, please see: If you still have questions, there is a new contributors' help page, or you can. You may also find the following pages useful for a general introduction to Wikipedia: I hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. Feel free to write a note on the bottom of my talk page if you want to get in touch with me. Again, welcome! —C.Fred (talk) 02:24, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of IsItUp Network Monitor


A tag has been placed on IsItUp Network Monitor, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Re: Question about my article
Hi Fred,

''I am new to Wikipedia and don't want to get off on the wrong foot. I just wanted to add my product to the list of network monitors and tried to create an article that was similar to the others. It is admittedly an attempt to let people know that the product exists so to that extend it is promotion. So I guess my question is, can I add my product to the list of networking monitoring applications? If not, how can I can my product listed?''

Thanks for your help with this.

Gary GaryTarr (talk) 02:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC) (copied from User talk:C.Fred) 


 * Hi Gary. There are a couple of issues here.


 * First and foremost, you have a conflict of interest with your product and your company. It is a very slippery slope to try to write neutrally about your own work. As you admitted, the underlying motive is really to promote the product, rather than just inform people about it. That's why it's best to let independent articles create an article, if it's warranted, or add it to the list.


 * As far as having a stand-alone article, the rule of thumb is that a subject needs to have gotten substantial coverage in independent reliable sources to have an article: that's the general notability guidelines. For a product, that would probably mean a full review in one (ideally, more than one) major trade or general publications. (I mean, if it's gotten several column-inches in the Wall Street Journal, it's probably notable.)


 * Finally, in most cases, the items on a list have to be independently notable. A quick scan of Comparison of network monitoring systems shows that all the other products have their own articles—in other words, they meet the notability criteria I mentioned above. So, until your product meets the notability criteria and has an article, it shouldn't go on the list.


 * So, what's the best step to go forward if you want your product listed? Find some reliable sources like newspaper and magazine articles about it and mention them here, on your talk page. I'll be watching and can help evaluate them. Then we can discuss to see if they meet the criteria. —C.Fred (talk) 12:07, 5 August 2015 (UTC)