User talk:Gater821

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Speedy deletion nomination of Creative Europe


A tag has been placed on Creative Europe, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I deleted the article for the second time.

On the now deleted talk p., you said
 * This page is not unambiguously promotional, because...

Hi there! I see that our new page for Creative Euorpe may be deleted and I wondered if I could get some pointers from you as to how to write a more appropriate entry (I'm a Wikipedia newbie). I work in the EU and we'd like to have a Wikipedia page where people can find basic encyclopedic information on our new Creative Europe program.


 * There is a similar Wikipedia entry already in existence for our sister program Erasmus, which has apparently passed your promotional test, and we're just looking to create the same type of entry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasmus_Programme). As our program has only just been launched and no one has yet participated, it's difficult to know exactly what to write without being flagged as 'advertising'.


 * We are not a corporation trying to market a product, but merely trying to create a place where people can find ubisaed information about a governmental program that has the potential to benefit many people in society in need of funding.


 * If you have any suggestions about how we can rephrase our text, I would be very grateful!

First of all, a WP article needs to have references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. Erasmus is a famous program, and a great many such sources are available; your's seems to be almost unknown at this point and does not. The article talked about goals, because as the article says, everything is just hoped to be accomplished, and there are no accomplishments yet. I doubt you will be able to write a satisfactory article until then.

We use promotional for nonprofit organizations as well as commercial ones: telling people about something that you hope they will become interested in is promotion. It is no different from commercial advertising, as far as an encyclopedia is concerned.

It is very difficult for those connected with an organization to write a good article,--they are too much concerned with what they want to say; an encyclopedia is concerned about what a reader might want to know. I call your attention to WP:COI. As that page says, it is permitted to edit on behalf of your organization, but not advised. When you have enough sources on your actual accomplishments you start an article, please use the WP:AFC process so it can be checked before entering the main encyclopedia. Afterwards, when you need to make changes, suggest them on the article talk page.  DGG ( talk ) 17:33, 31 January 2014 (UTC)