User talk:GatorHalcon

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Your submission at Articles for creation
 Follicle Nutrient Deficiency Syndrome (FNDS), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you are more than welcome to continue submitting work to Articles for Creation. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Mdann52 (talk) 16:47, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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Your submission at Articles for creation
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re-review please
Good morning, Excirial. I have addressed your comments in an article I'm trying hard to get right and have removed peacock terms and added more references in support of the person's work. Would you mind having another look, please? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile Related question... There appears to be an old page that was begun for this individual sometime in the past but never really finished. You recently reviewed it, too, and it's now showing up on my watchlist. I assume that one should be deleted? It's here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Anthony_Wile [old] Finally--if this is NOT the best way to request a re-review or re-submit, please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GatorHalcon (talk • contribs) 11:46, 17 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Hello there GatorHalcon,


 * The second Anthony Wile article shows up on your watchlist because Wikipedia simultaniously watchlists a article and article talk pages. It seems someone else started an article on the article page, while yours resides on the article talk page (Causing you to see two of them on your watchlist). For now i would see it as a minor inconvenience, since keeping AFC article's is preferable over removing them altogether, just in case a contributer returns or someone decides to adopt the article.


 * As for the article itself, i fear it still suffers from the old non neutrality and peacock issues. For example:
 * Incorporating a perspective based on more than 20 years of financial and business experience working with growth-oriented companies in a variety of sectors (Puffery)
 * The Daily Bell remains on the cutting edge of alternative news publishing (Non neutral, peacock)
 * Harry Browne, were an enormous success, with more than 500,000 people logging on. (Subjective - success is a conclusion, enormous is not neutral).
 * Editor to several leading free-market thinkers. (More peacock words)
 * I only checked a few random sentences and sections, so there are bound to be more.


 * As for the review requests - it is best to place the article back in the queue for another check when desired (Reduces dependence on a single editor - i tend to have vacation every now and then). To do this, just click the "When you are ready to resubmit, click here." link in the bottom template.


 * Kind regards, Excirial ( Contact me, Contribs ) 17:59, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
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Your submission at Articles for creation
 Anthony Wile, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. Note that because you are a logged-in user, you can create articles yourself, and don't have to post a request. However, you are more than welcome to continue submitting work to Articles for Creation. Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Mr T (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 11:25, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
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 * Hi GatorHalcon, the article you created and I moved, needs further work. It's been created but that does not mean it's finished. If you don't work on it right now it may be deleted. An well-intentioned editor just told me "″The sources in the article are awful, either primary sources, blogs, a Wikipedia article, or otherwise not about the subject. None of the sources show any notability for the subject, and unless there's something about to be added to the article or some sources I'm somehow missing, the article is looking at a WP:PROD or WP:AFD.″" If you don't do something to remedy the issue it will be nominated for deletion (probably by me to save my ass). Do something about the references. Mr T  (Talk?)  [ (New thread?) ] 08:37, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

OK... I am brand new at this, now RE-reading help/guideline pages like mad ... (advice requested) ... while some editors seem determined to delete immediately! I am trying to address concerns before that happens... Since the well-intentioned editor thinks all the references are awful and that Wile is a fringe nutjob, I'm not really sure what to do with that. Wile was interviewed again this past week on RT News; I'm not clear how that is not a mainstream reference. It's even included in my cable TV lineup... Nonetheless, all references to his appearances there (and all other references, frankly) have been deleted. Where do I go from here?! GatorHalcon (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2012 (UTC)GatorHalcon


 * Hey, Mr. T... on second thought, I'm done. Please just delete this page entirely. If I knew how to do it I would but, frankly, I'm all done trying to follow wiki help pages only to then find out this is all just entirely subjective ... Thanks for your efforts.

Your recent contributions
Articles for creation/Anthony Wile exists and so does Anthony Wile. Both have a photo captioned "Anthony Wile". looks like a copyright violation. In fact, one version was deleted, and you simply uploaded two more version with no license. You created Anthony Wile, publisher of TheDailyBell. You also created Follicle Nutrient Deficiency Syndrome (FNDS). It seems very likely to me that you created it to promote biologixhair.com. This promotional article in http://www.thedailybell.com discusses the syndrome, and mentions Dr. Duran who is associated with biologixhar. The article Follicle Nutrient Deficiency Syndrome (FNDS) uses the biologixhair.com website as references.

This seems like conflict of interest or even paid editing. Please comment. Thank you. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Further, both Articles for creation/Anthony Wile and Anthony Wilecontain copy pasted content from here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:17, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

One more dandy: User:Anthonywile Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:20, 30 September 2012 (UTC) (Now moved to his sandbox in this edit.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:48, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Another matter: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Biologix Hair Sciences Ltd. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:51, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Ouch! Where to begin to defend myself?! Anthony Wile contributes to our understanding of economics, from a free-market perspective, similar to Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, the von Mises Institute and others with Wiki living person bio pages. I created a page about him for that reason.

After reading the Wikimedia photo upload guidelines, I thought I did that correctly. The photo is owned by him and I got permission to upload it. Apparently, I need to determine how to make that known...

Yes. I created the FNDS page after I read about it at Wile's site. I think it is quite notable that an alternative is being/has been developed to people taking a drug that makes them permanently impotent because they want to grow hair (which outrages me). It made sense to me, further, that I should create a page about the company that has the treatment available so people can then research and determine whether there's any validity to it, which is what I did when I first read about it. Similar pages on treatments and the companies that invented them are on Wikipedia so this made sense to me. That page was declined and since I'm not sure how to write it in a manner to direct people to where they can get more information about FNDS without it seeming like a promotion of the company I haven't done anything more to that page.

I don't understand how it's "one more dandy" that Anthony Wile apparently created a user page for himself at some point, or how that has anything to do with my attempts to add to Wiki. Feels rather like an accusation of ... well, something. I've spent many, many hours reading help pages to contribute to Wiki properly, and have asked for help several times. I'll continue to do that... GatorHalcon (talk) 14:39, 30 September 2012 (UTC)GatorHalcon


 * Perhaps I shouldn't have said "dandy". I meant that it was yet another Wile article, only this time at a userpage. May I ask, please, whether or not you are associated with either of the subjects? Are you being paid to create these articles? Do you have a conflict of interest? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:26, 30 September 2012 (UTC)


 * I answered your questions above, thoroughly, in politely explaining why I contributed many, many hours of my time trying to learn to add things I think are important to Wikipedia. It is disappointingly clear to me now that the real conflict of interest here is an ideological one between me and certain (not all) editors of Wiki. My understanding of the purpose of Wikipedia is to allow people to create factual contributions, uncensored by the powers-that-be, to humankind's general knowledge; as it turns out, (regardless of Wikipedia's own written guidelines), some editors are personally, subjectively assessing and making a determination as to whether any individuals, schools of thought, information sources, medical discoveries (and doubtless many other areas of which I'm not aware) are or are not "acceptable." I was obviously mistaken in my understanding of Wikipedia.


 * First, you are very, very welcome here. But, you weren't entirely thorough in your response. You again haven't answered the most important question. Do you have a conflict of interest here? Are you associated with the subjects?


 * We are very sorry that you spent a lot of time putting these articles together, and now they are up for deletion. We don't want you to be put off.


 * Regarding your rationale in creating these articles, please read WP:GNG and WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. This is all about inclusion criteria, and nothing more. We don't care who or what gets an article if they're notable. We don't judge. It's simply about independent media coverage. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:38, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
 * "uncensored by the powers-that-be" - yes, as far as we can be. But that does not mean that anything goes. We are 'free to edit', but we do have rules. 'Notability' applies over and above good intention. There are charity workers who will never have an article, and villains with long pages. There are million dollar companies whose products are used by millions of people every day - but no article. (One case was a company making own brand goods for big chains. Not one tin had their own name on it. Totally unknown outside purchasing departments, employees and the Infernal Revenue...) I too am interested in the matters raised by Anna. Conflict of Interest WP:COI is not forbidden. Paid editing is not forbidden. Neither are recommended. Peridon (talk) 12:01, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Follicle Nutrient Deficiency Syndrome (FNDS) for deletion
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Anthony Wile - Controversies section
As the principal author of the article, I thought you might like to offer some input on how to handle it. Please see: Talk:Anthony Wile

Thanks, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:42, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

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