User talk:Gavrilov Sergey

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Football at the 1912 Summer Olympics
Hello. I don't know much about the teams at the 1912 Olympics, apart from the Danish team. If you have additional information about reserve players, just add it to the Football at the 1912 Summer Olympics - Men's team squads article. Poulsen 14:12, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Olav Horvat
Actually, I didn't do anything (see my contributions). The information I have added comes from the reference link on the bottom of the page. As Poulsen said, you are welcome to correct or delete any erroneous information you may find, or add new correct one.

Zé da Silva 13:20, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Danish players
Yes, it looks like Emil Jørgensen's birth date is 7/2-1882. When you catch mistakes like this, simply be bold and change it yourself. The same goes for your information about Axel Thufason. Just go ahead and edit the pages yourself, that takes less time than first telling me about the details. Remember these aren't my articles, they are for everybody to edit ;-) Poulsen 06:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Pyotr Sokolov after the Olympics
I am currently writing a book in which Pyotr Sokolov appears, and I'd like to credit you in the acknowledgements section of it and I wondered where the information came from. Doma-w thinks you might be able to help - see User talk:Harrywferguson. Many Thanks Harrywferguson 13:14, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Yugoslav First League, team HSK GRADJANSKI
Thanks for the input, Sergey. I've looked over the link you provided, but unfortunatelly it doesn't seem to be of much relevance as far as HSK Gradjanski is concerned. It doesn't list their season-by-season lineups and only mentions a handful of their better known players.

Being a Dinamo Zagreb fan site, it mostly focuses on that club, which was formed by communist Yugoslav State Security in 1945 on the ashes of three dissolved football clubs from Zagreb: HŠK Građanski, HAŠK, and Concordia. These three clubs became prominent in pre-WW2 Kingdom of Yugoslavia, but were founded even earlier in pre-WW1 times when Croatia was a part of Austria-Hungary.

As you can probably discern from the same link, some Dinamo Zagreb fans imply a continuity between Dinamo and the three pre-war clubs but there's really no basis for that. Communists all over post-WW2 Yugoslavia had a habit of dissolving pre-war football clubs (especially prominent ones), seizing their property, and founding new ones under the auspices of state security, police, army, workers' organizations, or local communist authorities. Zvonko (talk) 03:27, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ОК. I simply searched for a name of one of football players. Has found only at you in lists. Thank. The site has found while searched necessary. Has decided to write to you.

Sergey Gotsmanov
Thanks for the message - unfortunately, I cannot see where you have previously contacted me about any mistakes. If you can let me know what I have got wrong I will try to put it right. As my understanding of the Russian language and alphabet is practically non-existent, I must defer to those better qualified than me about translation/romanization. Thanks again. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 16:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I have written to you on your page--User:Gavrilov Sergey
 * I have amended the article taking on board your comments. If I've still got anything wrong, perhaps you could make the necessary corrections. Thanks for pointing out these errors & omissions.   --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 19:20, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Romanization
Здравствуйте, Сергей! Спасибо за наводку на книгу, только мне, проживая в США, приобрести её несколько затруднительно. В любом случае, буду иметь в виду, звучит очень интересно.

Что касается собственно романизации, то вам должно быть интересно также узнать, что к данному guideline'у в данный конкретный момент рассматривается дополнение как раз в части имён собственных (см. тут). После принятия этого дополнения (против которого за время рассмотрения пока не было ни одного голоса "против") правила романизации русских имён собственных в английской Википедии приобретут столь необходимую им гибкость. Правила "по умолчанию", однако, останутся неизменными. Позвольте мне объяснить, почему.

В первую очередь позвольте напомнить, что мы находимся в английской версии Википедии. Это означает, что несмотря на всю свою универсальность, эта версия энциклопедии направлена в первую очередь на англоязычную аудиторию и должна использовать конвенции этой аудитории знакомые и привычные. Даже несмотря на то, что WP:RUS покрывает темы, связанные с Россией (и, естественно, русским языком), мы должны по возможности предпочитать инструменты перевода/передачи русских терминов, используемые англоязычными специалистами. Одним из таких инструментов является BGN/PCGN &mdash; система романизации языков (включая русский) под нужды англоязычной аудитории. А наш WP:RUS, в частности, на 98% повторяет конвенции BGN/PCGN. Я не пытаюсь умалить возможные плюсы похожих систем разработанных в России (хотя сто́ит заметить, что тот же ГОСТ, например, для наших нужд подходит очень плохо), но правда жизни заключается в том, что повсеместного распространения в зарубежной литературе они не получили, в отличие от того же BGN/PCGN. А поскольку целевой аудиторией английской Википедии являются не "студенты и аспиранты лингвистических вузов и факультетов иностранных языков", а живые люди :), это обязательно нужно принимать во внимание при выборе системы романизации. Только потому, что российские специалисты обновили правила или разработали систему, которая на порядок лучше существующей, не означает, что мы должны автоматически на эту систему переходить.  Вот когда/если эта система начнёт интенсивно применяться в текстах, написанных авторами из США/Великобритании/Австралии/прочих англоязычных стран, вот тогда и нам надо будет задуматься о том, есть ли смысл менять устоявшиеся (или, как вы выразились, "устаревшие") правила.

Что касается примеров, используемых в WP:RUS в данный момент, то никто вам не будет препятствовать, если вы их замените на более иллюстративные :) Тот же "Аник", например, это самая высокая гора в Приморском крае &mdash; пример валидный, но, соглашусь, не самый удачный.  Примеры эти я писал довольно давно по принципу "что в голову придёт" и для другой цели; обновить бо́льшую их часть сейчас было бы вполне уместно.

В общем, надеюсь на ваши вопросы я ответил. Если что-то упустил, пишите; с удовольствием отвечу.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sergey!
I'm the one who mails with you :-) Just a salute. --necronudist (talk) 18:57, 10 April 2008 (UTC) I correspond with some guys with Wikipedia, for example with User:Doma-w
 * Thank. I have understood it in the first day of correspondence.


 * Doma-w is a really good user! Uh, take a look at this! --necronudist (talk) 19:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

RSSSF
This refers to "rec.sports.soccer" a Usenet newsgroup. See Big 8 (Usenet). Best wishes, Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 19:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello. I have always assumed that it was Recreation & Sport. Although I am not 100% sure, I can't think of anything else it could be. пﮟოьεԻ   5  7  19:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


 * thank you very much

Football at the 1908 Summer Olympics - Men's team squads edit
Hi! Can you please provide some websites/books where Hanot is cited? Thank you Sergey! --necronudist (talk) 09:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the answer! I already read the Official Report, I was wondering if you had other sources. However you're right and I had those names in my database. Adolfo Baloncieri was born on 27/07/1897 in Castelceriolo (AL), Attilio Trerè was born on 9/10/1887. --necronudist (talk) 09:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Olympic tournament: multiple corrections
Hi and thanks for the informations you left at my user talk page, here what I have done: Thanks again!--Latouffedisco (talk) 09:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * 1920: added informations for Great-Britain team and corrected Bosuil Stadion
 * 1904: I left the result of the second draw between St. Rose Parish and Christian Brothers College with a note, to clarify that this game was not counted as an Olympic one.
 * 1906: corrected 6-0 into 5-0 for Athens VS Thessaloniki.
 * Completed again, thanks for this perfect link!--Latouffedisco (talk) 10:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

My entries
I was taking my data from www.rusteam.permian.ru for all the players, if you find something wrong, don't hesitate to correct my articles. I will try to correct them myself using your comments, but if I don't have enough time, you're more than welcome to correct them themselves if you have a chance. Thank you very much! Geregen2 (talk) 13:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I gradually correcting mistakesGavrilov Sergey (talk) 00:34, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Goalkeepers

 * Zamora – Ricardo Zamora Martínez (Español de Barcelona)
 * Óscar – Óscar Álvarez González (Stadium Ovetense)

Defenders

 * Vallana – Pedro Vallana Jeanguenat (Arenas Guecho)
 * Escobal – Patricio Pedro Escobal López (Real Madrid)
 * Pasarín – Luis Casas Pasarín (Celta de Vigo)
 * Acedo – Domingo Gómez-Acedo Villanueva (Athletic Bilbao)
 * Larraza – Jesús Larraza Renovales (Athletic Bilbao)

Midfielders

 * Legarreta – José Legarreta Abaitúa (Athletic Bilbao)
 * Gamborena – Francisco Gamborena Hernandorena (Real Unión de Irún)
 * Belauste – José María Belausteguigoitia Landaluce (Athletic Bilbao)
 * Peña – Anacleto José María Peña Salegui (Arenas Guecho)
 * Carulla – Domingo Carulla Bertrán (Barcelona)

Forwards

 * Piera – Vicente Piera Peñella (Barcelona)
 * Juantegui – Antonio Juantegui Eguren (Real Sociedad)
 * Triana – Ramón Triana del Arroyo (Atlético de Madrid)
 * Zabala – José Luis Zabala Arrondo (Español de Barcelona)
 * Monjardín – Juan Monjardín Callejón (Real Madrid)
 * Samitier – José Samitier Vilalta (Barcelona)
 * Carmelo – Carmelo Goyenechea Urrusolo (Athletic Bilbao)
 * Chirri – Marcelino Aguirrezabala Ibarbia (Athletic Bilbao)
 * Del Campo – Víctor del Campo Lenguas (Real Madrid)
 * Félix Pérez – Félix Pérez Marcos (Real Madrid)

Source: HISTORIA DEL FUTBOL ESPAÑOL. SELECCIONES ESPAÑOLAS. SELECCIÓN ABSOLUTA. VOLUMEN I 1920 – 1981 Mega60 (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Voy a añadir en breve la Wikipedia las listas de los jugadores del equipo de España 1924 Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 20:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Gracias por su respuesta.

Daniel Pettit
Hi, this source confirms that Pettit played in the Olympics for Britain. Regards, GiantSnowman 19:21, 11 November 2009 (UTC) But there is no complete record. Where to see the correct protocol? This archive a British newspaper, for the August 7, 1936.  There is a message about this game, and in the chronicle of events shows team Great Britain. The same player Daniel Pettit is not present in the composition, it is not in the message of the second game.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 19:42, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * This site I saw, yes, the player is written on this site in the list of players.
 * Maybe he appeared as a substitute? GiantSnowman 19:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

So that there is no precise information about his participation in the games. I do not deny that he was not playing, but I do not write it in the minutes of games. It remains unclear moments in the history of the competition in 1936.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 20:10, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. But the rules of competition in the replacement of then were not allowed.
 * Yes, I have created a number of Olympic football biographies for Great Britain, and there always looks to be conflicting info - such is life! GiantSnowman 20:58, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Team of China at the Olympics in 1936
Hi. Thanks for your attention about old Chinese football. I will answer your two questions now. It is welcomed to ask more questions.
 * 1) The removal of attendance number and the referee of the match is just a mistake, I have already added these after your remind. Thanks.
 * 2) About the dates of birth of these players, I have done nothing on it. I only edited the name of players to the correct one. For example, Tam Kong Pak, previously written as "Tai Jiang Bai" in the article. (You may click for the old version of the article.) And the date of birth of Tang Jia Bai is written as 27 December 1907 (aged 28). It proves that I make no changes on the DoB of players. However, the problems of DoB are known when I am editing the squad list. I think that the DoB of the whole squad is wrong but I have no enough data to correct it. So I have maken no changes to the DoB until now. Once I have enough data, I will edit the DoB of the squad in Wikipedia. --FootballHK (talk) 13:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

1997–98 UEFA Champions League
You should not add material like that in the article itself. Add it to the talk page instead. – PeeJay 21:38, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Club Pyunik Yerevan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyunik_Yerevan On this club - there is one very major bug. This club has been has not champion of Armenia in 1996 and 1997, has not played in the Champions League.
 * What to discuss and with whom to discuss if the Europeans do not know the history of

At that time there another club with the same name, in 1999 he renamed the Kilikia Yerevan. this is the club and was a champion of Armenia in 1996 and 1997, played in the Champions League. On the English pages of this club http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilikia_Yerevan laid out his story. But much is written is not true. At the Russian pages all written in a much more correct. We in Russia know more about the fate of all clubs from the camp of the former USSR. What can I say the people of Europe, learn Russian and read Russian football directory. --- Another similar situation

page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1._FC_Brno quotation of the text European competitions - Fairs Cup - 5 participations, quarterfinals: 1963/64 (note: another team from Brno entered this competition in 1961/62 - KPS Brno) What is written in parentheses - read several times.

Page of tournament http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961%E2%80%9362_Inter-Cities_Fairs_Cup still write - Spartak Brno.

Written not correct, and will always not correctly written. KPS Brno - a very different club. Almost everything about this club is not heard and do not know anything about its history. conclusion - what to look for information, learn the history of this club, much easier for you to write very much like the naming club With whom to discuss it? If on this club KPS Brno know and I think about 10 people in Europe about this little known club. And the rest anyway. Another nuance, I live in Russia, I do not know much English. I find it hard to literary English grammatically and stylistically correct form it. Therefore, it is difficult to explain some of the most obscure facts. If you do understand something, write about these issues in the discussion what to pages perhaps even someone pay attention to it. --Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 16:57, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's very good research, but you MUST NOT put it on the article page. By all means make the necessary corrections yourself, but it is totally inappropriate for you to put such content in the article itself. – PeeJay 00:54, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Football at the 1936 Summer Olympics – Men's team squads
Hello, Sergey! Many congratulations on your excellent work about the Olympic football squads. I am an Italian user and I would like to know the sources you consulted especially regarding the Stand-by players of every team. You know, that tournament was very important for Italy, so if you remember the sources, please you contact me. --VAN ZANT (talk) 10:41, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for your precious information, Sergey. Congratulations on your site www.eurocups-uefa.ru I often visit it and I have included it into our sources, as you can see here. Greetings from Italy! --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

1960–61 European Cup Rapid Wien - Benfica
Dear Sergey, I would like to know your opinion about the result of the match Rapid Wien - Benfica, valid for the second leg of the semifinal. According to Uefa.com, the result is 1-1, while, according to your fantastic website, this match was abandoned and then Uefa awarded a 3-0 win to Benfica. Moreover, also Rsssf.com declares that the result was 1-1, while this blog adfirms that Uefa actually awarded a 3-0 win to Benfica. So, in your opinion, which is the truth? --VAN ZANT (talk) 10:51, 7 March 2011 (UTC) Outcome of the game 1:1 has been approved as official. Some Russian sources reported technical lost, most likely a mistake. And given comment to the game is not true. I'll ask about it from colleagues. The answer, I will write later. --Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your letter. I'll write about this situation on the forum of our website.
 * According to the Italian book Annuario del Calcio Mondiale 2005-06, page 851, the first time in which Uefa modified a result and assigned the 3-0 win was during the season 1990-91 and the matches were the following: Olympique de Marseille-AC Milan 1-0 (then Uefa awarded a 3-0 win to Olympique de Marseille) and Dynamo Dresden-Crvena Zvezda 1-2 (then Uefa awarded a 3-0 win to Crvena Zvezda). This book doesn't mention Rapid Wien-Benfica, so the correct result was surely 1-1. --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I have not received any response from the forum. I promised to report only to the end of the week. But probably indicated in the commentary by the game 3:0 is not correct. Also, the game was played 50 years ago. At that time there was no such wording "technical victory".No there was such sanctions in the rules of the competition, UEFA could not make this decision. Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 18:52, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
Your addition to Charles Fuller (footballer) has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. GiantSnowman 14:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello.I find it hard to write, I do not know much English.I do not write in English, I gave a link to the information that people would read it.And append the information in your own words. Look at me now, added here 1952 - Olympics - Great Britain that you can add on Stand-by players. Can use, although I can also say - my copyrighted material.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 18:47, 9 April 2011 (UTC)/Russia/

Лобановский, Валерий Васильевич
Hello, Sergey. I'm working on Valeriy Lobanovskyi's article and I need a little help. As you can verify, all the Wikipedia's sources declare that he won the Soviet Championship 1990 and the Soviet Cup 1990. But I don't know if this information is correct. I think that Anatoliy Puzach (and not Valeriy Lobanovskyi) coached Dinamo Kiev in 1990 and I think that Puzach won the Soviet Championship 1990 and the Soviet Cup 1990. So my question is: who won the Soviet Championship 1990 and the Soviet Cup 1990: Valeriy Lobanovskyi or Anatoliy Puzach? You are an expert of Soviet football, so I hope you can know the "truth". Thank you. --VAN ZANT (talk) 18:35, 20 April 2011 (UTC) Rimase sulla panchina del club di Kiev sino al 1990. (head coach of Dynamo Kiev until the middle of September 1990) Dal 1990 al 1993 fu il commissario tecnico degli Emirati Arabi Uniti, mentre dal 1994 al 1996 allenò il Kuwait. (In October 1990, gone to coach the team United Arab Emirates) Anatoliy Puzach Anatoliy Puzach 1990 year - spring, summer - assistant Lobanovsky. Since mid-September 1990 - Head Coach - Dynamo Kiev. The final match of the USSR Cup in 1990 took place on May 2, 1990. Won the team Dynamo Kiev - coach Lobanovsky. In the national championship in 1990, after the departure Lobanovsky, team Dynamo Kiev played a few games in the national championship, ahead of time before the end of the championship of the country has won the championship. Yes, at the conclusion of the championship coach was different. But the main and principal merit is that the team Dynamo Kiev became the champion, owns Lobanovsky. Therefore, in all of football references he has the title of champion trainer in 1990. -- Match European club Rapid Wien - Benfica, I asked this question on our forum so far received no reply.I think that writing after protocol addition note is not true.Outcome of the game is not canceled and there was not a technical score.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 17:23, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * In Italian tex written, I added in English dates of eventsValerij Lobanovskyj
 * Thank you very much for you precious informations. You are a great football expert! --VAN ZANT (talk) 19:29, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

AC Fiorentina 1961-62
Dear Sergey, I think that some informations published on your fantastic website www.eurocups-uefa.ru regarding Fiorentina 1961-62 are not probably correct. In fact, Fiorentina coach over the first six matches of the Cup Winners Cup was Nándor Hidegkuti (and not Ferruccio Valcareggi). Ferruccio Valcareggi coached Fiorentina only over the two finals against Atlético de Madrid. I have no doubt about this matter. Hidegkuti was Fiorentina coach for the season 1961-62. The Italian championship ended on 15-04-1962 and after the end of the championship Hidegkuti was replaced by Valcareggi. For this reason, Valcareggi coached Fiorentina against Atlético de Madrid, but during the first six matches of the Cup Winners Cup Hidegkuti was Fiorentina coach. All the Italian sources adfirm that. I hope my information can be helpful. --VAN ZANT (talk) 09:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Many thanks for the clarification. You are right. I'll let know about this inaccuracy on the website forum.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 16:24, 26 April 2011 (UTC)


 * This article (page 3) http://dlib.coninet.it/bookreader.php?&c=1&f=11453&p=2#page/3/mode/1up published on 30-04-1962 declares that Ferruccio Valcareggi started coaching Fiorentina on that day. Thanks for your kind attention. --VAN ZANT (talk) 20:02, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Olympique de Marseille-AC Milan (1991)
Hello! Some weeks ago, you contacted me about the result of the match Olympique de Marseille-AC Milan (1991). I have found out new details. According to Uefa.com, UEFA awarding the match to Marseille 3-0. Moreover, I have found out an article by Le Soir, conformément au règlement, Marseille reçoit le bénéfice du match gagné par forfait sur le score de 3-0, it means that actually there was a technical score 3-0. In my opinion, the result 1-0 published on Uefa.com is an incomplete information, because Uefa actually awarded a 3-0 to Marseille. Please, let me know what you think and if you agree. Thanks. --VAN ZANT (talk) 19:24, 28 April 2011 (UTC) games Dynamo Dresden - Crvena Zvezda here and here games Marseille - Milan here and here. For both pairs of games look: the authors of players who score goals, approved by the result, and the aggregate results of matches. All is still. I'm not saying that the UEFA website rights. But they have written differently than in other places. -- Another, perhaps you little-known fact in the same round of games the team met Spartak Moskva and Real Madrid. Spartak Moskva won and got to the semifinals. But in both games played for Spartak Moskva player Dmitri Radchenko, he could not play these games Not properly no rules UEFA was made its transition from a team Zenit in Spartak Moskva. Functionaries of the team Real Madrid is only noticed and found out after the passage of time allowed for filing protests. If this error would be revealed before then the team Spartak Moskva counted to 2 technical defeat.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 20:16, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello! What is written in the paper Le Soir, I know. The same thing is written in a number of Russian books. But there is a 1 percent where it says all disciplinary penalties after playing Marseille - Milan and Dynamo Dresden - Crvena Zvezda. The first paragraph is written - the result of the game Marseille - Milan has been counted and take the one that was at the time of the stoppage 1:0, after written on the disqualification of the team Milan, on the monetary penalty for the team Marseille, the punishment Galliani. Maybe it's some generic error, and the site of UEFA is also wrong. While we not can even connect with people with UEFA website and find out the truth. So far only remains to ascertain the facts that the referenced page is initially uefa.com has continued
 * Some months ago, I contacted Uefa because I wanted to inform them about the controversy regarding the outcome of Olympique de Marseille - AC Milan. They told me: "We will investigate...". They probably know less than us... --VAN ZANT (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Maybe once UEFA find out the truth.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 16:29, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:National football squad start -2
Template:National football squad start -2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 13:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

UEFA.com gamesheets
Hi, How did you find the gamesheets on uefa.com, as linked to on 1990–91 European Cup? I'd love to find them for other seasons, to fill in unused subs for articles, but I can't see them linked to anywhere. Thanks, ArtVandelay13 (talk) 09:06, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Wrote you a man from Russia. Sorry, I know English is bad. I hope you can understand me. There is a page like this 2001 year http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2001/matches/all/index.html From season 2001/2002 report of games can be taken from these pages, click on the account or it the words «Full time» You can start by taking insert records from there. You can open any other year Champions League, in the hyperlink address in a place where the word /season = 2001/ instead 2001 of the year you want to write desired year The pages will look like 1992 year http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=1992/matches/all/index.html 1996 year http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=1996/matches/all/index.html 2000 year http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2000/matches/all/index.html But the page does not a hyperlink to the report of games. But such sites exist. Mostly I put them in Wikipedia Until 1993, all seasons European Cup and Champions League in Wikipedia I put links to protocols UEFA. A number of protocols UEFA has differences (by goals scored) of written RSSSF and rewritten in Wikipedia. These differences almost never discussed any discussion I've no seen.
 * Hi ArtVandelay

1994–95 UEFA Champions League http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994%E2%80%9395_UEFA_Champions_League In Wikipedia, it is necessary not only to insert records from the UEFA website. But to finish the games themselves Qualifying round - 8 games, and written (First leg, Second leg) only 3 pair of games, the other 5 pairs of games no information. Can finish. As in these years to go on the record from the UEFA website to me in this response can not explain. Drop me an e-mail li77n@hotmail.com I'll tell you, and I will write and explain how to get to the desired protocol games. --Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 19:21, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for this - don't worry, your English is better than I speak any other language! What I'm really looking for is the unused substitutes for finals - most of them pre-about 1987 don't have the unused substitutes (see 1986 European Cup Final for example). Do you know how to find these? ArtVandelay13 (talk) 19:30, 11 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Information is almost nowhere. We were trying to find the Russian commands unused substitutes and too little is found. Knowing who would be among the unused substitutes, we were unable to determine who was in the order of the game. Assume the starting lineup and five players substitutes. Mathematical number substitutes in different years was not exactly known. View website http://www.linguasport.com/ there is, after sections of European cup final game protocol, the two finalists for a full list of the players who were on the team that year. Many of them were among the substitutes (reserve goalkeeper should always be) Read here http://www.ethis.no/playerhistory/forum/viewtopic.php?f=594&t=7963&sid=b6d36111215e656c2336c9e63e4f4022 See this site. Only the pages can not be opened from the browser Internet Explorer, use any other browser written all the protocols to European cup before 1981-82 season There are links, as an example of this http://www.eurocups-uefa.ru/champions_league/1968-69/protocols/ For other years, just change the numbers in the link, and write the necessary years (files before the 1981-82 season)

Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 07:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks, that's really useful. Funnily enough, some of those sites have taken their info from Wikipedia, so it all goes full circle. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 20:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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Check it out here 1972–73 UEFA Cup look like done, but when to come to this page to a robot Bot he will do everything according to the rules of Wikipedia, but it would ruin everything.--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 12:42, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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For a moment from the things that you offer me to familiarize WP:LINKSPAM. Well, I agree that these sites I advertise. But it is very good and at the moment one of the best websites on these issues. Look say on the page after your edits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966%E2%80%9367_European_Cup_Winners%27_Cup some of these links, they have remained there, some of the not open due to the changed site addresses. Everywhere all External links and references in Tables Report and Report 2 I interjected. They remained. You can remove them and because they also fall under paragraph WP:LINKSPAM. Remove them and you get a blank page. Wherever there is a list of games. That's all you know about the Cup Winners' Cup in 1967. Page created in 2010, if you remove the link, it will be the same as at the time of creation. Question - where from what source to get information for saturation informative page. You will not find anything, since no sources that could offer and which do not fall under the spam link, does not exist. And do not appear in the coming years. You have 4 years as a page or does not develop and another 10 years and will stay in one place. Forward motion is not already, and so in modern times very little information about the Cup Winners' Cup, and it will take time and generally forget about it all. And the Wikipedia page so descendants remain in the form of so uninformative.

In the same year, in another cup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966%E2%80%9367_European_Cup. There, too, I put links to protocols UEFA Report None of the people of Europe, they did not stick, but our Russian site UEFA gave passwords to address their links instead we wrote UEFA, we will give open access to reference not only open to all pages of protocols UEFA, but also provide alternative sites our Russian and another European society in order to enable people to become familiar with all places. You think that some of these sites sources of questionable reliability, and we struggle with UEFA that it places on our sites is written more correctly, even clerks UEFA listen to us , and only in wikipedia for not having no other information other than the site rsssf or anything not see.

I have a question for you let's say some football in articles written that played for the club and brought in a card player statistics, the article also provides information about places in the games of the national team of the country. And only 1 percent of something written about the players' statistics in games in European competition. Why so little information, just nowhere to write off , and the information is there, all the players ever played in European competition ( number of games and the number of goals scored ). We have to change the template now adopted by the player cards, make it a little wider and add a column about the European Cups and then much easier to be inserted into the cells desired numbers. We must move further progress to be easily available and get the right information, even in UEFA understands they're certainly doing something , some pages are password protected , you can not see them , after 5 years when all appear wikipedia start thinking how to correctly use the information .--Gavrilov Sergey (talk) 20:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

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