User talk:Gbs enterprises, inc.

Your Username
Welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions. However, I noticed that your username (Gbs enterprises, inc.) may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it suggests you are editing on behalf of a company. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username, or you may simply create a new account and use that for editing. Thank you.  ceran  thor 20:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

My Username

 * My username should meet policy. I am, in fact, editing, (or, rather creating), an article for a company for which I work, (that is, GBS Enterprises, Inc. (GBSX) - a partner of IBM).  I am new this summer and, as marketing intern, it is part of my job to make sure that GBSX is known.  I brought the fact that the company is not on wiki to my boss, who authorized me to go ahead and create an account and page for us.
 * I am an avid user of wikipedia; however, I am new to creating/editing it. After getting more recent references and adding a little bit more information to my page, I would like to publish it.  Do I need to change my username in order to do so?  Please let me know.  In the meantime, I will continue working on the page.  Your speedy response is greatly appreciated.  Thank you.
 * Gbs enterprises, inc. (talk) 13:53, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Your account has been blocked indefinitely from editing Wikipedia because it appears to be mainly intended or used for publicity and/or promotional purposes. Please read the following carefully.

Why can't I edit Wikipedia?

Your account's edits and/or username indicate that it is being used on behalf of a company, group, celebrity or other well-known individual, or organization for purposes of promotion and/or publicity. The edits may have violated one or more of our rules on spamming, which include: adding inappropriate external links, posting advertisements, and using Wikipedia for promotion. Wikipedia has many articles on companies, groups, and organizations, but such groups are generally discouraged from using Wikipedia to write about themselves. In addition, usernames like yours are disallowed under our username policy.

Probably not. See WP:FAQ/Organizations for a helpful list of frequently asked questions by people in your position. Also, review the conflict of interest guidance to see the kinds of limitations you would have to obey if you did want to continue editing about your company, group, or organization. If this does not fit in with your goals, then you will not be allowed to edit again. Consider using one of the many websites that allow this instead.
 * Am I allowed to make these edits if I change my username?

You are still welcome to write about something other than your company or organization. If you do intend to make useful contributions on some other topic, you must convince a Wikipedia administrator that you mean it. To that end, please do the following:
 * What can I do now?


 * Add the text on your user talk page.
 * Replace the text "Your proposed new username" with a new username you are willing to use. See Special:Listusers to search for available usernames. Your new username will need to meet our username policy.
 * Replace the text "Your reason here" with your reason to be unblocked. In this reason, you must:
 * Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the edits for which you were blocked.
 * Describe in general terms the contributions that you intend to make if you are unblocked.

If you believe this block was made in error, please see how to appeal a block. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  19:43, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


 * I've fixed the unblock template. Unfortunately, already exists. Choose a different name. — Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 20:26, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

{{unblock-un reviewed | 1=lois 918!! | reason=

May I change my username to: lois918!!

 * Also, there seems to be a bit of a contradiction. I see that I've been unblocked, but it says also that my request has been declined.  Is that because I have yet to officially change my username?
 * I also notice that my saying that I am an intern in the company came up as problematic. I actually thought this would be beneficial to Wikipedia, as I thought it would give me credibility.  In reality, I am new, (perhaps too new to even call myself an intern/employee of the company!) and therefore cannot truly write on behalf of the company.
 * As previously noted, I would have benefited from it being here on Wikipedia before I came in for my first day, (which was only two weeks ago, I might add).
 * To reiterate and reemphasize, I am not here to advertise, but rather to inform the world about the GBSX company (as I would like to have been informed). Again, I look forward to hearing from you.  Thanks! | decline=Your requested username is fine, but I still have great concerns about your desire to promote your company (as you put it, "to inform the world about the GBSX company"). I suggest you address the questions by BWilkins, Orange Mike, and JamesBWatson below before making another unblock request. --  At am a  頭  16:05, 17 June 2011 (UTC)}}

Here are a few key questions:
 * Do you understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not a business directory?
 * Do you understand conflict of interest?
 * Do you understand that to be considered for an encyclopedia article, the subject must be notable?

You are currently blocked because your username appears directly related to a company, group or product that you have been promoting, contrary to the username policy. Changing the username will not allow you to violate the 3 important principles above. ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 13:44, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be condescending here, Lois, but marketing people (probably due to the ethical standards of their trade) really don't seem to understand our point of view. "to inform the world about the GBSX company" = promotion of GBSX company and WE DON'T ALLOW YOU TO ABUSE WIKIPEDIA TO PROMOTE YOUR COMPANY, CAUSE, CLUB, WEBSITE, WHATEVER!!!! "Marketing" is a euphemism for advertising; attempted advertising within Wikipedia, also called "spamming", is regarded as a species of vandalism; and those who commit it are treated with almost as much firmness as simple vandals. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:07, 17 June 2011 (UTC)



A tag has been placed on GBS Enterprises, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be unambiguous advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item G11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising,. Clicking that button will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the |the article's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. You may freely add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

''Parts of this message duplicate comments above by Orange Mike, posted while I was drafting this message. However, since I have written it you may as well see all of it.''

In reference to your comments above:
 * 1) This account has not been unblocked. I'm not sure what gives you the impression that it has.
 * 2) Your editing looked very promotional to me, whether that was your intention or not. If you genuinely did not see it that way then you are probably unable to stand back from what you have written and see how it will look from the detached perspective of an outsider. That is, in fact, one of the main reasons why Wikipedia's conflict of interest discourages editing on a subject in which you have a personal involvement: even with the best of intentions it may be difficult or impossible to write objectively about it.
 * 3) Can you say in what way your idea of editing "to make sure that GBSX is known", which you say you are doing, differs from your idea of editing to advertise GBSX, which you say you are not doing?
 * 4) I am not sure how you reconcile "it is part of my job to make sure that GBSX is known. I brought the fact that the company is not on wiki to my boss, who authorized me to go ahead and create an account and page for us" with your statement that you are not writing on behalf of the company. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:21, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Let me say it a little more loudly:
 * you will not be unblocked if your intent is to recreate this article (WP:COI and WP:PROMO apply);
 * Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of notable subjects, and not a business directory
 * The company is NOT on Wikipedia because it's NOT notable - if it was, someone would have made an article years ago - just like Glasshouse systems (also a major IBM partner) does not have/need/deserve an article
 * To clarify, you did create the article as a live, published article
 * To additionally clarify, you were never unblocked, as per Jeremy and the block log
 * You may wish to take some time to either fix your unblock request, or describe what other edits you might wish to make to Wikipedia in the future, should you be unblocked ( talk→  BWilkins   ←track ) 16:42, 17 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Glad you ask! Our notability criteria in this particular case is covered by the general notability guidelines and the notability guidelines for companies.  The company must have significant coverage in third party reliable sources.--v/r - TP 17:22, 17 June 2011 (UTC)