User talk:Ged UK/Archives/2010/August

Tree Warbler
Guess what ... the comedian's back. Can we have another bout of semi-protection please? Thanks SP-KP (talk) 22:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've put it onto pending changes. It's persistent, but low level, i think pending changes should work well. Ged  UK  13:45, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

FK Baku
Cheers for your support.--NovaSkola (talk) 16:27, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. Ged  UK  16:28, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Request for use of your admin status..... again!
Hi, Sorry to keep disturbing you. But is it possible that you could help me create a template page. Basically there is a new cricket league in Pakistan called the Pakistan Super League. I've added the logos for most of the teams i.e. Lahore Eagles, Islamabad Leopards etc. and have provided the image licensicing as well. So basically what I want know is the use of a template I'm trying to make called Template:Cr-PSL and I'm trying to model that used by the Indian Premier League called Template:Cr-IPL. So really I need you to help me create this template.

So what do you have to do. Well you have to get a team called from the Pakistan Super League for example Lahore Eagles and use there logo (in the team article) and place it on the Template:Cr-PSL where we're basically going to make a flag icon the Lahore Eagles let's say we are going to use the namespace "Cr-LL}" or something like that to show there flagicon to help you achieve this. TO do this you might want to structure it around a this template Template:Cr-IPL can you do one example of the Lahore Eagles and show me how to do it. I will the do the rest of this icons.

Sorry this seems like an obscene request but do you think you can help me with it. Wiki id2 (talk)  10:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Certainly isn't an obscene request, but I'm almost certainly not the best person to speak to. I'm not very good on templates, and not very good on image use, to be honest; they're areas I tend to avoid (especially after I got told off around the WI flag!). Try the Template Wikiproject, there's real experts there! Ged  UK  11:42, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

User:119.93.197.34
Hi. I was wondering if there's anything you could do prevent this IP from continuously editing the Filipino Premier League over and over with the exact same thing, when that user's edits has nothing to do with the article. I've had to revert their edits numerous times over a period a time. Thank you. Banana Fingers (talk) 17:19, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've given them another warning. If they continue, give them one final warning, and if they continue, report them to WP:AIV, and they'll be blocked. Ged  UK  18:31, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I've taken this to WP:AIV and I've been told to take it to WP:ANI which I have and they're saying it's only a minor annoyance and their edits are good faith edits even if the edits in question aren't related to the article. The IP and it's other IP's don't seem to respond on their talk page neither did they show up on WP:ANI.  What can be done now? It's getting really tiresome already. Banana Fingers (talk) 14:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi. Perhaps you've missed my latest reply?  Can anything be done?  The IP's really don't stop. Banana Fingers (talk) 11:23, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting support.svg Semi-protected&#32;for a period of 1 week, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Sorry, I did miss your reply. I've protected it for a week. Hopefully that'll do. Let me know if it recurs after that. Ged  UK  11:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Your thoughts
Since you so recently let me know I could ask you questions, I was wondering if you could review my handling of a vandalizing IP:. Was it okay in this case to perform the blocking / removal of talk page access myself? I felt that the case was egregious enough that I was okay. Thoughts?  Jujutacular  talk 14:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Honestly, when I make these gestures, I don't expect people to take them up! ;o)
 * Absolutely fine. Admins don't review unblocks on their own blocks, but this person isn't making an unblock request, and is just continuing to be disruptive. As these post block disruptions seem to get raised at RPP as a matter of course, and there's often a backlog there (feel free to help!), then it can take too long. Good block! Ged  UK  15:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good to know, thank you!  Jujutacular  talk 15:05, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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Azerbaijan
Sorry to bother you again, but could u please take at least 3 edits by user named Someone555 in Azerbaijan topic. It is good faith edits however I can't undo it.--NovaSkola (talk) 12:09, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What is it that you want me to do? Ged  UK  17:27, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Mary Shannon Page
I was trying to create a new page about Mary Shannon, an In Plain Sight. It had said that you deleted it and to contact you about creating the new page. Is it okay to create the page about Mary Shannon? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Baxter176 (talk • contribs) 04:57, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi there. If you mean Mary Shannon, I don't know anything about that article. It was deleted by . I can see that it was about a character from In Plain Sight, so I guess it's the one you mean, but I've never been involved in it. Ged  UK  17:30, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Filipino Premier League vandalism
Hi. The page is unprotected now and I thought the vandalism would stop but it hasn't. You said if the vandalism doesn't stop after it's semi-protection period, I should inform you. The same edits are being made to the article by IP's. Surely it's the same person again. Thanks. Banana Fingers (talk) 11:23, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not at the levels it was before the protection, so hopefully they'vegiven up. Let me know if it picks up to unmanageble levels again. Ged  UK  20:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

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ZOMM‎
Hello old friend, how are you doing? I noticed while on Page Patrol that you declined this speedy. Award winning applies to WP:ANYBIO. For WP:CORP, that is not a concern or mention. moreno oso (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello there :) Any of the general notability guidelines don't apply for CSD. CSD is a lower threshold that the GNG (general notability guideline). It has to be a credible assertion of notability to pass A7, and for me, winning awards, especially international ones, is enough for that. PROD or AfD is the way to go now. Ged  UK  20:06, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * CORP requires significant coverage. The second press release indicates that the product was announced for the upcoming product which may be WP:CRYSTAL. The third, while a bit more detailed, is a press release and comes from the reviewers which is not a reliable third party source. moreno oso (talk) 20:09, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * CORP, and MUSIC, and PROF, and BOOK etc etc are notability guidelines. They aren't the criteria to be assessed against when considering a speedy deletion. the CSD criteria are very specific and defined. The notability criteria such as corp as used in an AfD discussion, or as a rationale for a PROD. Ged  UK  20:17, 17 August 2010 (UTC)Q
 * DB-A7 is the same as DB-CORP which would require using its guidelines. moreno oso (talk) 20:22, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * DB-CORP is NOT the same as WP:CORP. DB-CORP is a CSD abbreviation really. WP:CORP is a notability guideline. Ged  UK  20:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Fir Tex
As the editor that first deleted Fir Tex, you might want to be aware that the debate has re-surfaced. I marked it for speedy deletion. It was deleted but then restored again at the request of its author. It is now going through AFD. My views at clear and stated on the AFD page but you may wish to be involved or to comment having a previous history here. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 19:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Are you stupid Electronic body music
you little piece of shit? Unblock the EBM article. This fight will never end, i swear! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.10.36 (talk • contribs) 15:05, 20 August 2010
 * You're so kind. Ged  UK  21:59, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Addition of cfdend templates
Hi Ged UK. When adding cfdend templates to category talk pages following the closure of a CfD, I think the date format needs to be "year month day" rather than "day month year", e.g. "2010 August 9" rather than "9 August 2010" as you did here. Regards. DH85868993 (talk) 15:39, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, that seems likely. I couldn't work that link out, I almost never closed CfDs, and I picked one with far too many subnoms! Ah well, I think it's fairly easy to find if someone ever wants to check. Ged  UK  22:21, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Re: Altered speedy deletion rationale: Horacio Salinas (photographer)
Hi, Ged UK. Thanks for your note. I thought I had listed the article as db-multiple: G11 because it was created for a promotional purpose and A7 (bio) for no plausible assertion of notability. Did I make a hash of it? Cheers. -- Rrburke (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
 * No, you did nothing wrong, it's just the script I use can only cope with one rationale! I should have turned off the send message option in this case, but I didn't! Ged  UK  10:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Vote comment
As you commented in the pending closure discussion I am notifying you that the Pending changes/Vote comment is now open and will be for two weeks, discussion as required can continue on the talkpage. Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 00:09, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up. Ged  UK  11:04, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

User:Digirami
I fully understand why you protected both pages. At the same time, I would like you to take a look at his contributions (specifally, those he is making at the WikiProject Football talk page). The user is clearly more concerned with protecting pages from those that does not conform to his liking then improving the articles themselves (which, to me, is not an editor; just someone who thinks they owns wikipedia). A real editor that contributes to wikipedia would be far more concerned in editing rather than looking to prevent others from doing so.

He is even going so far as to rally others to semiprotect everything not condone by a few editors. May I ask you (seriously), isn't that a conflict of interest? 68.215.155.80 (talk) 07:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Ged, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football. To put it lightly, the above user (a known sock who is evading his block) doesn't play well with others. He has a well-documented history supporting that fact, especially under the user name Jamen Somasu. Therefore, I would take his words about me with a grain of salt. I have only asked for protection in light of the disruptive edits he has made in the past two or three days, and I was not the only one to do so in that same time span. Furthermore, he gloats about that fact he is disruptive. Digirami (talk) 07:47, 23 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Please semi protect Recopa Sudamericana and the other one. The dispute is not between registered users. Sandman888 (talk) Latest PR 08:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a dispute which has led to an edit war. To semi-protect would simply favour the registered users over the IPs, which isn't what it's for; hence full protection. I don't have time at the moment to look into this with detail, but I will this evening. Ged  UK  11:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * There's a wider issue here than the protection or otherwise of one particular page, concerning block evasion using multiple IPs. For background, see among others Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of SuperSonicx1986 and Requests for comment/Jamen Somasu. While using the Jamen Somasu account, the editor was indeffed, was unblocked after agreeing to mentorship and conditions (I was the mentor), and was reblocked a couple of weeks later after failing to change behaviour. In the midst of this, it was discovered that Jamen had previously been indeffed while using the account User:SuperSonicx1986. The editor has since resorted to IP-hopping to evade the block, including harrassment of some of those he has previously had disagreements with e.g. . I don't knew enough about rangeblocks to know whether collateral damage would be an issue, but it seems the likely solution. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:44, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I've lowered both to semi-protection. I'm comfortable with the editing patterns that indicate it's the same person. Ged  UK  18:59, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank semi-spam
Thanks for your support in my RfA, which was closed as successful. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 15:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

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Psst....
IT got unlocked a few days ago, seems they haven't learned their lesson yet even after 4 months. So I need your help again if you're on. Thanks. Heavydata (talk) 00:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, wasn't on (it was past midnight UK time, I don't stay up that late anymore!), but I see it's been actioned at RfPP. Let me know if you need anything else. Ged  UK  09:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Pat Robertson vs. gay
Re: protection; just FYI, this is the televangelist minister who predicted that God might hurl a meteor at Florida because of Disney World's acceptance of gays. The chances that this man will come out as homosexual are less than the chances that I will win the lottery today (mind you, I haven't bought a ticket either... and don't plan to...). Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:37, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Indeed, but stranger things have happened! Ged  UK  07:28, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Invitation for objective participation in discussion
As a trusted editor on WP, you're invited to look at the discussion at Articles for deletion/James Cagney, Jr. and comment. Thank you. Monkeyzpop (talk) 08:37, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * As it happens, I'm halfway through writing my reply! Ged  UK  08:53, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Question on categorization
Hi. Just interested in getting your opinion on this, but would you categorize Tony Chua as a footballer? As I don't think it should be and I've mentioned it to the article creator but he's very adamant it should be. The article is also the odd one out if you look at Category:Filipino footballers. Thanks. Banana Fingers (talk) 17:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, categories are something that pass me totally by; I almost never notice them on an article. I think it probably does, but I'm not an expert. How about asking WikiProject Football for their opinion? Ged  UK  20:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

IphoneEmu
THANK you. Exploding Boy (talk) 20:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Why did you delete my article? Colejohnson66 (talk) 20:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It wasn't WP:NOTABLE, and it was advertising. Ged  UK  20:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, the reasons were given on your talk page a number of times. You chose to delete them.  Exploding Boy (talk) 20:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It was not advertising! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Colejohnson66 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

EDS Full history userfy
May i get my EDS Full History page userfied? MaxiryAran (talk) 21:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * If you can Email it to me, that's all i really need. MaxiryAran (talk) 21:34, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * ✅ Userfied to User:MaxiryAran/EDS. Ged  UK  06:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy Notice
There is a deletion discussion about an article (DFTBA Records) that you userfied to User:MaraudingChimpanzee. It has been nominated under WP:UP and/or WP:FAKEARTICLE and I thought you might want to voice an opinion of the matter here. Thanks. Soundvisions1 (talk) 13:42, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

TY for TFA assistance
Thanks for stepping in and protecting TFA. I am not an experienced vandalism hunter, and was unsure about how to proceed. It seems like the vandal created his second identity based on my name, and now he's gone about copying my user page. Do you know if I need to do anything about that? ty /Coffeeshivers (talk) 15:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I was just having a look at that, was rather weird. They've been blocked now by someone else :) Ged  UK  15:18, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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