User talk:Ged UK/Archives/2014/May

The Signpost: 30 April 2014

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RT (TV network) article lock
Hi The moment the lock you put on the article expired, The guys that did not accept the consensus that has reached in the talk page have been all over it. the main issue is a paragraph in the lead. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RT_(TV_network)#The_Consensus_.28April_10.2C_2014.29

I suggest you lock it again, but with the version I cleaned their blatant negative POV pushing from it. Thank you79.179.32.234 (talk) 01:54, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I see this has already been done by another admin. Is there anything else you need from me? Ged  UK  12:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your kind response. Yes, The current locked version is representing a very strong negative POV (last paragraph in the lead) that's been pushed contrary to the Consensus on the talk page
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:RT_(TV_network)#The_Consensus_.28April_10.2C_2014.29
 * At your discretion off-course, please either revert it to the edit 1 before the current one, or revert it back to the version when you last locked it or remove altogether the last paragraph of the lead (that is the center of the controversy at hand. Tahnk you. (same ip editor)79.179.32.234 (talk) 13:56, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The only reason to rollback to an earlier version as part of page protection would be to remove a BLP violation or other major breach of WP rules. POV wouldn't be one of those. Ged  UK  11:21, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride 2014
Hi Ged. In case you are not aware, there is an upcoming campaign to improve coverage of LGBT-related topics on Wikipedia, culminating with an international edit-a-thon on June 21. See Wiki Loves Pride 2014 for more information. If you are interested, you might consider creating a page for a major city (or cities!) near you, with a list of LGBT-related articles that need to be created or improved. This would be a tremendous help to Wikipedia and coverage of LGBT culture and history. Thanks for your consideration, and please let me know if you have any questions! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 16:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 May 2014

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2016 NHL Entry Draft
This article was made into a redirect per an AFD here. Not too long after the AFD result, the article creator restored the article. I restored the redirect, he has again restored the article. The article needs a lock on it....William 13:11, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅ Ged  UK  11:41, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Declined protection for the Doctrine of Fascism
Hallo the next time that you will decide about a protection request, I kindly invite you to study the article's history, what happened in the past, the users and ips involved, and their actions and comments. Many thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. I always do that, every case is assessed on its merits. There was no reason to protect in my opinion, it seemed that the talk page discussion had identified that a revery had been done in error. Additionally, there had been one burst of reverting, but not enough to be considered an edit war to warrant protection. In the case of an edit war, semi=protection is almost never the right solution. Ged  UK  11:53, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Mainland Air
I noticed the page on this airline has been deleted and as they are about to start scheduled services can the page be undeleted? I did not see the reason why it had to be deleted as it has been on wiki for some years now!CHCBOY (talk) 11:40, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
 * It's was deleted under criterion A7 of the Speedy Deletion process, because there was no indication about why the airline was notable. Essentially, the page was just a page of where it flies, types of aircraft and a link to their homepage. There's a guidance page about what might be significant, see WP:Significance. For an airline, it could be that they're the only airline on a route, the first to floy somewhere or do something, some coverage about the company in a reliable third party source (eg a profile piece about the airline etc.). If you can show me how you would be able to claim some significance, I can restore it for you. Ged  UK  12:01, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

please unlock Stacey Dash
3 years ago today you locked Stacey Dash. Could you please unlock. I want to edit her personal section to add in her son and daughter. I also want to edit her career section to add in her lingerie line Letters of Marque. Thank you. 65.205.13.26 (talk) 20:38, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, actually I restored the protection that had already been added. I'm happy to change it to pending changes and see how that goes. Before you add any info about her family, please make sure that it comes from a reliable source, otherwise it won't be accepted. Ged  UK  11:26, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 May 2014

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VisualEditor newsletter—May 2014


Did you know? The cite menu offers quick access to up to five citation templates. If your wiki has enabled the "" menu, press "" and select the appropriate template from the menu.

Existing citations that use these templates can be edited either using the "" tool or by selecting the reference and choosing the "" item in the "" menu.

Read the user guide for more information.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has mostly worked on the new citation tool, improving performance, reducing technical debt, and other infrastructure needs.

The biggest change in the last few weeks is the new citation template menu, labeled "". The new citation menu offers a locally configurable list of citation templates on the main toolbar. It adds or opens references using the simplified template dialog that was deployed last month. This tool is in addition to the "" item in the "" menu, and it is not displayed unless it has been configured for that wiki. To enable this tool on your wiki, see the instructions at VisualEditor/Citation tool.

Eventually, the VisualEditor team plans to add autofill features for these citations. When this long-awaited feature is created, you could add an ISBN, URL, DOI or other identifier to the citation tool, and VisualEditor would automatically fill in as much information for that source as possible. The concept drawings can be seen at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog, and your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted.


 * There is a new Beta Feature for setting content language and direction.  This allows editors who have opted in to use the "" tool in the "" menu to add HTML span tags that label text with the language and as being left-to-right (LTR) or right-to-left (RTL), like this:   . This tool is most useful for pages whose text combines multiple languages with different directions, common on Right-to-Left wikis.
 * The tool for editing mathematics formulae in VisualEditor has been slightly updated and is now available to all users, as the "" item in the "" menu. It uses LaTeX like in the wikitext editor.
 * The layout of template dialogs has been changed, putting the label above the field.  Parameters are now called "fields", to avoid a technical term that many editors are unfamiliar with.
 * TemplateData has been expanded:  You can now add "suggested" parameters in TemplateData, and VisualEditor will display them in the template dialogs like required ones.  "Suggested" is recommended for parameters that are commonly used, but not actually required to make the template work.  There is also a new type for TemplateData parameters: wiki-file-name, for file names.  The template tool can now tell you if a parameter is marked as being obsolete.
 * Some templates that previously displayed strangely due to absolute CSS positioning hacks should now display correctly.
 * Several messages have changed: The notices shown when you save a page have been merged into those used in the wikitext editor, for consistency.  The message shown when you "" out of an edit is clearer.  The beta dialog notice, which is shown the first time you open VisualEditor, will be hidden for logged-in users via a user preference rather than a cookie.  As a result of this change, the beta notice will show up one last time for all logged-in users on their next VisualEditor use after Thursday's upgrade.
 * Adding a category that is a redirect to another category prompts you to add the target category instead of the redirect.
 * In the "" dialog, it is no longer possible to set a redundant border for thumbnail and framed images.
 * There is a new Template Documentation Editor for TemplateData.  You can test it by editing a documentation subpage (not a template page) at Mediawiki.org: edit mw:Template:Sandbox/doc, and then click "Manage template documentation" above the wikitext edit box.  If your community would like to use this TemplateData editor at your project, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
 * There have been multiple small changes to the appearance:  External links are shown in the same light blue color as in MediaWiki.  This is a lighter shade of blue than the internal links.  The styling of the "" (character formatting) drop-down menu has been synchronized with the recent font changes to the Vector skin.  VisualEditor dialogs, such as the "" dialog, now use a "loading" animation of moving lines, rather than animated GIF images.  Other changes were made to the appearance upon opening a page in VisualEditor which should make the transition between reading and editing be smoother.
 * The developers merged in many minor fixes and improvements to MediaWiki interface integration (e.g., edit notices), and made VisualEditor handle Education Program pages better.
 * At the request of the community, VisualEditor has been deployed to Commons as an opt-in. It is currently available by default for 161 Wikipedia language editions and by opt-in through Beta Features at all others, as well as on several non-Wikipedia sites.

Looking ahead:  The toolbar from the PageTriage extension will no longer be visible inside VisualEditor. More buttons and icons will be accessible from the keyboard. The "" link will be moved out of the "" menu, into the "" menu. Support for upright image sizes (preferred for accessibility) and inline images is being developed. You will be able to see the Table of Contents while editing. Looking further out, the developers are also working on support for viewing and editing hidden HTML comments. VisualEditor will be available to all users on mobile devices and tablet computers. It will be possible to upload images to Commons from inside VisualEditor.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback or by joining the office hours on Thursday, 19 June 2014 at 10:00 UTC. If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at meta:VisualEditor/Newsletter for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:16, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 May 2014

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! I don't usually get that barnstar! :) Ged  UK  12:03, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Infobox island(s)
Please revert your edit here. There will be no need for "mop up work", as the current template name will be a redirect. Infoboxes are named in the singular; see Infobox person, Infobox building, Infobox book, Infobox park, Infobox event and thousands of others in List of infoboxes. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:11, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree. There should be mop-up work because we shouldn't be creating 3000+ redirects without a plan to update them. And I don't think creating 3000+ redirects, or indeed moving a template with 3000+ transclusions, is non-controversial. Sorry. Ged  UK  14:07, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
 * There would not be 3000+ redirects; there would be only one. Nothing would require updating. Such moves are regularly made, uncontroversially. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 00:11, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * 3000 articles point to one place. That place is moved, so 3000+ articles are now pointing at a redirect. Those 3000+ articles need to be updated to point to the target. Ged  UK  12:01, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, they do not. That's the point of redirects, and we, by policy, do not replace them as a matter of course. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:50, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
 * We also don't try to create 3000+ redirects when we don't need to. This clearly isn't uncontrovesial. The CSD doesn't apply. Ged  UK  08:13, 29 May 2014 (UTC)