User talk:Gene93k/Archives 2020

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Maltese female models


A tag has been placed on Category:Maltese female models requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Nomination of 5th AVN Awards for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 5th AVN Awards is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/5th AVN Awards until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.  Sandstein  20:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gene93k, I had the above notice posted on my page today and thought you might be interested. I don't know who the other active editors are these days though who might want to know about this; could you let me know? Or let them know about this? Thanks. pumik9 • (talk) 03:50, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Need assistance
Hi Gene93k,

Thanks for your edits to the Valhalla High School (New York) Wiki page. I am really a beginner (as you can tell), so I am still learning ...

I based my initial changes on the Wiki page of the Horace Greeley High School, which is close to Valhalla. Please have a look at that page:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Greeley_High_School.

It seems like that school's page is full of text meant for promotional purposes and "academic boosterism" ... And I don't see citations for all of these entries there, either. Is all of that allowed?

Could I just add a reference to, for example, the fact that Valhalla High School was granted the Blue Ribbon award? I will then leave the description of the school, etc. out. I realize that I will have to provide a proper citation.

Thanks for your help!

Halvalla

(18:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Halvalla (talk • contribs)
 * While Horace Greely High School is also on my watch list, I haven't looked at it for quite a while. A quick glance tells me that it needs a substantial clean up.  That said, existing problem content does not justify other problem content. The new content at Valhalla was obviously problematic enough to revert.  It is okay to note a Blue Ribbon distinction. It is not okay to copy and paste what the school says about itself in the first person. If VHS clubs and athletics are distinctive, state facts that you can cite to reliable independent references.  I can see that HGHS club content is unsourced, the references for sports do not appear to support the content, and the notable alumni section is already tagged for issues. I will see what can be salvaged. You can find additional guidance at WikiProject Schools/Article advice. • Gene93k (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

SpaceNinja80 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2020 (UTC) I didn't want to start a new thread just to say hi back. My edits were automatically signed when I was responding to the talk page from my phone. It's interesting that my first acquaintance is such an accomplished contributor. It looks like our areas of expertise will overlap in places. I'm still trying to figure out how to set up my own user page. Did you have to compile the user facts for yourself, or will WP generate those? If I contribute 10 individual items to the list I'm working on, will WP credit me for 10 edits? Will I have to create new pages for the red items? I'm also proofreading a translated article given to me when I signed up, but I need paper media to source. I'll get around to the tutorials when I'm done correcting the grammar. Advice is welcome in the meantime. Thanks again. SpaceNinja80 (talk) 13:56, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Stephen Kelly concern
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AfD
Thanks for expressing exactly what I was trying to say, only much better. Couldn't remember that link for the life of me, and you stated your argument better too. I guess not being able to go to work has me a bit addled. John from Idegon (talk) 00:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Need help
Hi, can you please tell me if this a reliable source or not? Thanks.মোহাম্মাদ ইসমাইল (talk) 09:38, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Short answer: credibly verifies XBIZ's assessment but is of little value as evidence of notability. The article is an obvious press release. Even if you accept it as a reliable reference, it is not count as significant coverage to pass WP:BASIC for the persons, WP:NFILM for the videos nor WP:CORPDEPTH for the companies and products. The XBIZ Award generally lacks the coverage of independent sources to support claims of WP:ENT notability.  Moreover, porn award nominations ceased to count towards notability years ago, long before WP:PORNBIO was taken down. • Gene93k (talk) 10:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for making it clear. What do you think about this? and what is the difference between this and this source?মোহাম্মাদ ইসমাইল (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Few porn sites are considered reliable. Nearly all, including thelordofporn.com, are self-published. Porn trade press, such as AVN and XBIZ, may be considered reliable, but most of their articles are republished press releases.  Comparing porn awards with mainstream arts and science awards has been done to death at AfD.  The key difference is coverage by reliable sources that are independent of the award's recipient and its granting body .  You can do a quick GNews search on the Man Booker Prize 2011. 35th AVN Awards gets some incidental coverage from independent reliable sources, but almost nothing about the award winners. • Gene93k (talk) 13:15, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the answer.মোহাম্মাদ ইসমাইল (talk) 14:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Stephen Kelly


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Draft:Purezza concern
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New Delsort category
Since you sometimes perform deletion sorting for AfD discussions, check out the new Delsort category/page at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Products. Take a look, and note the criteria for posting there, listed atop the page in a box. Thanks for your work to manage Wikipedia! North America1000 21:36, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Ricky Martinez
hallo, I must have done something wrong when I nominated AFD Ricky Martinez, from his page I can find the reasons I gave for the deletion but here it shows the old debate. Can you please help me?. thank you --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 22:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The AfD debate at Articles for deletion/Ricky Martinez (3rd nomination) looks okay, and the article's AfD tag points to it correctly. The edit summary pointed to the old nom, but a dummy edit can fix that.  I haven't check the daily log yet. • Gene93k (talk) 22:34, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * P.S. I just fixed the daily log entry. Everything should be set.  This is why I use Twinkle especially for 2nd nominations and onward. • Gene93k (talk) 22:39, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you, I appreciate it. --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 22:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Purezza


A tag has been placed on Purezza, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. Praxidicae (talk) 13:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

The real creator of the page is Fatbobcat22 , who has just been notified. Apparently, the article was promptly recreated at the leftover draft redirect when the main space article was deleted. The pattern is 1. Create a stub that can get past AfC; 2. Load up the advertising once the page is published. • Gene93k (talk) 14:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't check who it notified. Sadly this was actually accepted by an AFCer...Praxidicae (talk) 14:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Not your fault. I approved the previous version at AfC.  That's my part of this mess.  Purezza appeared to pass WP:CORP when I approved it, but it's really not worth the trouble.  Nuke and pave at the very least. • Gene93k (talk) 14:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Request on 17:33:31, 24 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by 1836Texas~Republic1846
Request for a further review of the article.

I am asking that you further review the article I have submitted, and take note that all content is purely factual, with sources for the facts provided. I understand the strive that all articles have an extended reference list so to ensure the accuracy and legitimacy of as much information as possible. However, the subject of my article is a difficult one to find so many sources, and not because of a lack of importance. It is merely due to the subject itself. I can assure you that such an article is used extensively by many forms of people, including personnel in the fire service profession, as a reference for study, material and resource reference. As a simple search will show, many articles are about Fire Departments throughout the world, with many of their references being the same type as the ones I have listed. This is because as a municipal government department, there are not an abundant of sources out there available to cite other than the ones already listed, but this does not remove from the significance of the subject matter. Many of these other pages also have alerts at the top of their pages, mostly due to the same reasons mine has been rejected, a lack of references cited. These pages are still important and of great help to the people that read them. I know you can see that I myself, have not written any other articles before, but I have used many that contain information of Fire Departments, and I know the importance that these articles serve, so it is difficult for me to agree with your uninformed decision that this article is simply not "Wikipedia Worthy."

1836Texas~Republic1846 (talk) 17:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The draft is substantially unchanged since the original submission. The previous reviewer tagged the draft for possible copyright infringement.  I see no effort to address this problem Proof of permission would only be the first step.  Please familiarize yourself with the Notability (organizations and companies) guideline, especially the WP:ORGDEPTH section (depth and audience of coverage).  The only reference that plausibly meets the WP:ORGDEPTH standard is the book citation, which I cannot evaluate online.  The book by itself is not enough.  The general notability guideline requires  multiple  non-trivial coverage by reliable published sources that are both  independent of the subject  and intellectually independent of one another.  In addition, the WP:ORGDEPTH states that routine coverage (announcements, personnel changes, etc.) and local news sources don't count.  The content may be true.  However, the content must be editors' own words based on facts that are verifiable through citations to independent reliable sources.  Even if you can prove permission to use the text, the article should not be based primarily on what the department or the City of Waco says. • Gene93k (talk) 18:30, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * What you have failed to notice, is that the material originally flagged as copyright infringement (which is false, but I digress), was the departments logo (image). This was removed by the FIRST rejection. It was mistaken to be flagged as a copyright issue, but the article doesn't NEED the logo, so it has been removed and I have no intentions at this time of even attempting to use it. The fact that you cannot find vast information on the book cited, is the fact that only a small number of copies were ever printed. I believe if possible to even find, Amazon would be the only place to buy it, and I doubt they even have a copy anymore. Every single line of text was typed by myself, with the knowledge I have gained from the sources cited, as well as gathering MUCH of the information on my own, from the department itself. Which obviously, is not published, but is also public information seeing as how the topic is a department within a municipal government. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1836Texas~Republic1846 (talk • contribs) 18:58, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It's not that I failed to notice. A draft copyright flag, placing the draft in Category:AfC submissions declined as copyright violations, is about content.  The reviewer who tagged the draft,, can clarify why they tagged the draft.  Again, copyright is only the first hurdle.  The citation style is vague at best, completely lacking in inline citations.  Inline citations match the facts asserted to the reliable references that can verify them.  If the reference is a book, the references need specific page numbers.  A book can be found in a library where a reader can verify.  The publisher calls itself a printer of commemorative books, and a Worldcat search only lists the book in two libraries, the Library of Congress and the Waco-McLennan County Library.  Again, however reliable that source is, it is still one published source where multiple sources are required.  Facts need to be compiled from published sources .  If you are getting non-published information from the department itself, you are doing original research, which is against Wikipedia's core content policies.  Inline citations also serve to keep out original research.  If two or more independent, reliable, non-local published sources describe the department in a non-routine and non-trivial manner, the department is notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The draft is short of that. • Gene93k (talk) 20:56, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

afd
Hallo, i am sorry to disturb you. I nominated 	J. D. Slater Again but on the page of the AFD of today I see the old discussion. did I do something wrong? thank you --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I see that you fixed the nomination. If you are doing a 2nd, 3rd... nomination by hand, please use the Afdx instead (for example,   ,  3rd  or  PAGENAME (2nd nomination) ).  Again, Twinkle automates this process, saving substantial effort and grief.  Twinkle is available as user preferences checkbox item. • Gene93k (talk) 19:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 * thank you. I really appreciate ur help. --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 19:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Cellcast Group


The article Cellcast Group has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "The organisation is not notable, the article also contains significantly inaccurate information, the article is about a company that has launched Babestation and  Psychic Today  on to various TV platforms. The sources that exist are about the channels, not the parent company. The article has no hope of meeting WP:NCORP notability criteria. - 'A corporation is not notable merely because it owns notable subsidiaries. The organization or corporation itself must have been discussed in reliable independent sources for it to be considered notable.'"

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New Page Patrol Granted
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My Draft
Hello, it says that you have reviewed my draft, Saint Lucia national under-20 football team, but I have no knowledge whatsoever on if you have accepted or declined the draft. Please do so soon.

Thanks and best wishes, -- WellThisIs  TheReaper  , 15:50, 15 Octoer, 2020
 * I just did the new page patrol function (confirming a legitimate page). As for being ready to publish, I will leave that to editors more familiar with WP:WikiProject Football's guidelines. That said, I may do some technical clean up, time permitting. • Gene93k (talk) 22:59, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi User:Gene93k, thanks for reviewing my article Molly Stewart (pornographic actress). I have other articles waiting to be reviewed as well, when there is time please assist me with that. --Ajpoundz (talk) 23:31, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

"The 2019 conspiracy is an end product of long-running conspiracy spinning."
Can you explain this a bit? I don't see how a person, even a president, can theorize about a conspiracy relating to a scandal that hasn't happened yet. I understand how he'd refer to the Ukraine scandal involving Hunter Biden's 2014 appointment, but the Ukraine scandal in the sentence I corrected is clearly the one involving Trump's 2019 phone call. Thinking about THAT scandal in 2016 is impossible, no? Anyway, thanks in advance, I'm probably missing something really easy here and will feel stupid for asking later! 142.51.204.154 (talk) 14:27, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

COVID-19 pandemic data Saint Lucia
It is good to see you are doing a fine job of updating the covid data for Saint Lucia. Are you aware firstly that toady's figure seems to be revised downwards by one? and also however, that the days press release has a different figure to the dashboard? Sill that's better than Dominica where "new" press releases are at least a week old Simuliid   talk  19:19, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The dashboard gets updated last, sometimes a day later. The Ministry of Health is the source for all St. Lucia numbers. Today's total has been updated to 8 new cases. In recent days, the Chief Medical Officer announces the day's test results on the TV news first. I then look for an official posting. • Gene93k (talk) 22:07, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

New Page Patrol December Newsletter
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It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to and  who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to, , and who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Rita Pavone albums


A tag has been placed on Category:Rita Pavone albums requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Liz Read! Talk! 16:18, 11 December 2020 (UTC)