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Mew Suppasit
Looks more like a UPE Meat farm to me. Check the article's history, its contributors and its text "On May 5th, 2020, ...". has had a go at cleaning it up, but there's a LOT of SPA activity there I may be overreaching, so I'd appreciate another pair of eyes on it. Cabayi (talk) 15:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , that sure does look suspicious at first glance. I'll take a closer look later tonight and let you know. (And tangentially related, why does the subject's official studio page list his blood type and pants size of all things?) creffett (talk) 16:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , sorry I didn't get to this last night. Ashley Rosalia and Loglady are solid "maybes" to me (just a couple contributions each isn't enough to draw a good conclusion), but I agree the rest seem almost exclusively interested in Mew Suppasit and things related to him. Agreed that this probably isn't one person behind the accounts - I haven't done an in-depth look at their contributions for writing style, but Popsy is primarily using the mobile editor/advanced mobile editor, Thebriandez is mostly using visual editor, and Pohnsrp is using a mix of the source editor and mobile editors. At the very least this looks like undisclosed COI promo making a bunch of pages for an actor and his associated works, worst case you're right and it's UPE meatfarming. creffett (talk) 14:17, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

My reply to your message
Thank you for letting me know about the "Dog breed" category thing! Also, that's really cute! Chili The Border Collie (talk) 02:00, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

VWNEWSBLOG
I am new here mate thanks for the warm welcome. I will not be contributing to Wikipedia again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.102.90.105 (talk) 02:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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Hang in there
Your RFA has been a bit gnarly, well done for hanging in. Please allow me to be the first to jump the gun and prematurely congratulate you! Girth Summit  (blether) 10:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Well I can't be first and the RfA hasn't been closed yet :/ In all seriousness, congrats creffett! – Majavah (t/c) 12:15, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Congratulations...
...on your successful RfA. Good luck with your new tools, and don't forget to reach out to your noms, myself, or any other admins if you have questions.  Maxim (talk)  13:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Congratulations! I know personally that this process has caused you an immense amount of anxiety, and for encouraging you to go through this process without anticipating just how stressful it would be, I apologize deeply. Mz7 (talk) 13:10, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations Creffett! --   LuK3      (Talk)   13:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Much congrats on passing! As a bit of trivia: we received the same number of supports :o Hoping to see more of you on enwiki. -- qedk ( t  愛  c ) 13:27, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. --Titodutta (talk) 13:32, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations newest admin. Well deserved. — Nnadigoodluck 🇳🇬 14:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations! Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Here is the is the mop you will find very useful. Dreamy Jazz talk to me &#124; my contributions 15:52, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Feel free to classify yourself as you see fit.  bibliomaniac 1  5  18:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:Diffusing_conflict EEng 18:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats, creffett, you did yourself (and us) proud! I see that you have already received the traditional crappy T-shirt, but there is more. As an admin you are now eligible for some serious bling. See User:MelanieN/Admin bling. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:17, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Congrats! Also, heh. --Mdaniels5757 (talk) 18:48, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Just joining the chorus of Congrats! Best of luck swabbing the decks with the mop. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 20:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm late to the party... but, congratulations! :D  I like how friendly you are to other editors!  Aasim 19:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * While I am at it: you shall find your admin keys to the right.  Aasim 19:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC) 001 2019 06 23 Schluessel und Schluesselloecher.jpg
 * Congrats. sorry I missed it. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

From creffett
Well, now I'm actually allowed to talk to people since the RfA has ended. I have two things to say: And to everyone: I really do think accountability is important. If you're concerned about something I've done with admin powers (or anything else), my talk page is right here. creffett (talk) 14:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * To those who opposed, and those who hesitantly supported: I'm listening to your criticisms. Like I said, I will be more careful with A7s (and will continue to tag them), and Willa Brown will not be my only content work.
 * To those who supported: Thank you. Your words of encouragement and support really mean a lot to me.
 * Good path, creffett, thank you for the admin run!  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 17:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 * "I'm actually allowed to talk to people since the RfA has ended." – Ahem! It reminded me an old advice I got from one of my noms long time ago. Anyway, good wishes once again. Regards. --Titodutta (talk) 18:05, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Atsme Talk 📧 15:12, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You just closed this ANI discussion incorrectly. Sir Joseph (talk) 01:32, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Can't say non admin closure anymore . HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:37, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Welcome to the 2020 class of admins.... I recommend reading WP:DAFT sometime. Moneytrees🌴Talk🌲Help out at CCI! 03:09, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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Undo speedy deletion
The deletion you have done w.r.t. User: Disha Gahlot/Sandbox/Dr Sumer Sethi is wrong and unjustified. The biography page is not intended to promote anyone, I'm a doctor and certainly don't have time for such things. If someone has done great work in life, it does deserve recognition in someway. I have stated facts and figures from reliable sources. Kindly undo your deletion so that I can work on it. It's not even complete and editing is only in the sandbox. Undo at the earliest. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disha Gahlot (talk • contribs) 02:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , regardless of your intent, the page used unquestionably promotional language. Take note that nothing "deserves" a Wikipedia article, and the purpose of Wikipedia is not recognition - it is neutral presentation of encyclopedic facts about notable subjects. Additionally, while you say that you have stated facts and figures from reliable sources, I saw very few citations in the article, and most of the in-textlinks were not reliable sources (interviews with or speeches by the subject are generally not reliable sources as they are not independent). Finally, while I do not have any special privileges at Wikimedia Commons, I note that all of the files you uploaded there were copied from the internet, which makes them copyright infringement. I will not be restoring your sandbox. creffett (talk) 02:55, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

This is the first page I thought of working on. If you think that the page uses promotional language, then either assign someone for editing that 'perceived promotional content' or send some useful links what all may constitute a promotional language. Interviews are reliable sources if you check them individually. I have checked each one of them and only after that included them after seeing that third-parties had published them. Citations are yet to be added, like I said I was in not done but only in the middle of my work. All articles and research that are published will be available on the internet/journal only. None of the person's websites have been used as citations anywhere. A third-party publishing someone else's work will invariably cite from somewhere. I do not accept your response and want to discuss it with people who have special privileges and who value other people's time as much as their own. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disha Gahlot (talk • contribs) 05:00, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , if you want to contest my deletion, you may request deletion review. However, since three administrators (myself,, and ) have already said that your sandbox was unambiguously promotional, I would not expect your appeal to succeed. creffett (talk) 12:35, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I will give it for review. Irrespective of the outcome, how do I get all the content back since I was directly editing here, there's no back-up other than rough notes. Please share the links for promotional work sob that I can remove all that and generate a page that is totally acceptable without anyone's interference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disha Gahlot (talk • contribs) 15:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , please have a look at WP:PROMO and WP:PEACOCK. Anything in a Wikipedia article should be supported by significant coverage in independent, reliable sources - statements by the subject of an article (including interviews, lectures, blogs, etc.) may only be used in a limited set of circumstances (uncontroversial facts like the subject's date of birth or where they went to school, for example, are okay, whereas an awards list is not). And again, please read our policies on copyright, especially image copyright - you can't just download an image from the internet and use it on Wikipedia, as you did with the previous versions of your draft. creffett (talk) 15:33, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

User:Drudgesucks
Hi creffett. Since you left a username message on this user's talk page, I'd like you to know that they have created Draft:Conservative News Aggregator. I would not say they are not here yet, but it looks very close. Just to give you a heads up. Congrats on becoming an administrator! Epicgenius aka Kylo Ren (talk) 19:32, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , yup, I saw and I'm keeping an eye on it (but I do appreciate the note! I do miss things from time to time). Thanks for the heads-up! creffett (talk) 19:33, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Great Ghu!. I just tagged Draft:Conservative News Aggregator for WP:G10. IMHO, creator needs a block for an attack user name and for creating attack pages. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I asked nicely in the secret admin IRC channel (I was actually concerned about whether the username was offensive enough to request OSing it from the log and was told that "X Sucks" doesn't meet that threshold), and the recommendation was to nicely warn them...and then block the moment they refused to change. As for the page, I'm genuinely unsure whether it's serious or parody; for goodness' sake, it pipelinked "God Emperor" to "Donald Trump". creffett (talk) 20:38, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Herding admins is like herding demo-, er cats. We never ever fully agree. I went ahead and UAA'd 'em. When in doubt, let someone else delte or block. -- Deep fried okra  User talk:Deepfriedokra 20:42, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Help
As discussed - that would be greatly appreciated! I'll remind myself where I got to with it last year, and drop you a note over the next few days. Thanks :) Girth Summit  (blether)  19:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, took a look through my e-mails. I think I already have a registered nick, as I have an e-mail from freenode with a command I was supposed to type into IRC to complete the registration process. If memory serves (we're going back to October last year), I tried it, but it didn't seem to work, and I got sidetracked and never followed up on it. I also seem to recall requesting a cloak, but I don't know whether one was issued, and I don't really understand how to activate it. I should probably also say that I was just using IRC through Windows Edge - I'm sure there are better ways to do it. What's my first step? Girth Summit  (blether)  12:51, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , first step is getting online. For now, you can use the web client, that should be enough to at least get you online so we can figure out your nick situation (whether you're registered and cloaked). There's a list of web client choices at WP:IRCCLIENT, the freenode webchat (first bullet) should be enough. In the long term, it depends on what your use case is like - if you only get on occasionally for specific tasks, then a web client is fine, but for more advanced features you might want to use a desktop client, and if you switch between devices a lot a cloud solution like IRCCloud is pretty nice. creffett (talk) 13:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, right, should have actually told you what to do - get online and join the channel #wikipedia-en - I can find you from there to help you debug specific issues. creffett (talk) 13:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , OK, joining now... Girth Summit  (blether)  13:41, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

About Deepak Kumar Arya page ?
Thanku for deleting the content page of Deepak Kumar Arya but I need data backup how can I get that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepakaryak9 (talk • contribs) 04:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Help regarding Draft:Geoffrey Huntley with COI
Hi,, I have found Draft:Geoffrey Huntley no issue except that in User:GeoffreyHuntley page, the user has only put up. I have also put a COI notice on the talk page, because I did not find any COI declaration by the author. Should the page be moved to mainspace via AfC? Please have a look and let me know as it will be useful for dealing such cases in future. Thank you. ~Amkgp ✉  15:46, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I just found it has got deleted by an administrator. Thank you. ~Amkgp ✉  15:50, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, and  ~Amkgp. I've resubmitted the proposal at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Geoffrey_Huntley and am seeking to work with someone (you?) to achieve editing to conform to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. There are two inbound articles (Ride the Lobster and COVIDSafe) already and this adds the missing piece. Thank-you. 8:29, 25 May 2020

Sarah Rector
Could you please deal with the trolls at Sarah Rector ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 16:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , handled. creffett (talk) 16:07, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Just so you know, the trolls are beginning to go to other pages. CLCStudent (talk) 16:08, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to SPI
Nice to see you up and about already. You're in the best hands. :) -- qedk ( t  愛  c ) 17:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Demery
Hi Creffett,

Tom is a 71-year-old man, scared of tech, has no interest to be online, and arguably a non-notable person. I would like to request his page is deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R2-D2BIN (talk • contribs) 18:35, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Request acknowledged, I will have a look into this later today or tomorrow. creffett (talk) 18:38, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, - could you please ask someone who can speak for Demery (since you said he doesn't do tech - for example, if someone helps him with email at his organization, it could be them) to email info-en@wikimedia.org to confirm this request? I know what we discussed on IRC, and I have no reason to doubt it, but I need to do my due diligence and make sure that you're not some random person pretending to work with him. Just tell them to email the email address above, confirm that he would like for his Wikipedia entry to be deleted, and ask that this confirmation be passed along to me - I have access to our email response system and can verify it for myself once it comes in. creffett (talk) 22:44, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Happy to arrange. I will ask him to mail the email provided. R2-D2BIN (talk) 07:41, 25 May 2020 (UTC) Sent: Original Message

Subject:	Confirm Deletion Request (Action Required). Date:	2020-05-25 09:48 From: To:	Thomas Demery ...@aol.com> Reply-To:

Tom,

Please can you kindly: - Email: info-en@wikimedia.org, to confirm the deletion of your page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Demery - Please also be sure to ask them to pass a copy of said email onto Creddit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Creffett

Thanks, R2-D2BIN (talk) 07:50, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , outstanding, thank you. I'll take it from here. creffett (talk) 12:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Email sent via Tom's address.

Message navigationMessage 1 of 20 Previous Nextchange-formatchange-format Subject:Confirming Wikipedia page deletion request From	Tom Demery To	info-en@wikimedia.org Cc Date	Today 15:31 Contact photo Message Body This email is to confirm my request that the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Demery be deleted as previously discussed with R2-D2BIN. Also, please forward this request to Creffett at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Creffett

Thank you.

Thomas T. Demery

41.13.204.204 (talk) 13:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

- Creffett: please can you also delete any sub-pages, that mention his name (if there are any). I didn't see anything. Thanks in advance. 41.13.204.204 (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC) 41.13.204.204 (talk) 13:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 27. It will be on all wikis from May 28 (calendar).

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Regarding User:Jgocobachi approach
Hi, I find strange statements being made by User:Jgocobachi at Disability (band) which seems to be in bad faith. Similar statements has been also made at User_talk:Jgocobachi. Please have a look. Thank you. ~Amkgp ✉  15:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I speedied that page as an attack page. The user is upset that the page they created was deleted, since they're clearly a member of the band. It happens when people don't get what Wikipedia is and is not. If they continue attacking people I can block them, but they're probably going to pack up and go somewhere else soon enough. creffett (talk) 15:21, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Yeah you are right. This means its also a case of Conflict of Interest(COI). I was unsure what to tag. Thank you for a quick resolution. ~Amkgp ✉  15:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest mentioned within Draft:Sitar Metal
Hi, I found  within the Draft:Sitar Metal. What should be done with it as the user has not made any kind of declaration and its also strange to find a COI userbox within an article/draft. Please have a look. Thank you. ~Amkgp ✉  13:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I have placed a COI notice only ~Amkgp ✉  14:10, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , leaving them a COI notice is correct, I'd suggest changing the COI userbox to the COI article tag. I think they did make a good-faith effort to disclose the COI but were confused about how and where to disclose it. creffett (talk) 14:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , Done as suggested. Thank you. ~Amkgp ✉  14:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

It was totally sourced Robincard (talk) 20:40, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Request to undo speedy deletion of page: Young Active Minds
Dear @Creffett, this page was flagged for speedy deletion for copyright infringement. Prior to deletion, i had added a note to the talk section of the page to confirm there is no copyright violation. The trustees have given permission for the use of their Mission Statement, etc on Wikipedia and that i had requested the charity website display a CC-BY-SA and GFDL permission as proof for clarification. In the meantime, you deleted the page. I can confirm the UK registered charity Young Active Minds has now added a Copyleft tex release notice in the footer of the website (viewable on every page). Please may i respectfully request the restoration of the charity page. GSExplorer (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , acknowledged, I apologize for missing the comment on the talk page, that was my mistake. I will review this later today and restore if appropriate. creffett (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank-you kindly. If there's any revisions to make it compliant, they can be actioned immediately. It's a children's charity & to raise mental health awareness so no untoward intentions.GSExplorer (talk) 18:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm obligated to ask - do you have any connection to the charity? creffett (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes of course. I understand the concern. I am not connected with the charity through any promotional or remunerative means. I'm aware of charity through a school in Greater Manchester and notified the trustees through email both before and after i had created the wikipedia page.GSExplorer (talk) 18:34, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , all right, thank you for the answer, I appreciate it. As discussed, I'll review the page tonight and if all of the licensing checks out I will restore it. creffett (talk) 18:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I have undeleted the page and am looking for the proper template to tag the page with to indicate that text was copied from a compatibly-licensed source. My apologies again for the inconvenience. creffett (talk) 22:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

The mistake was entirely mine. I should have first realised the website required Copyleft text release in advance. It was my first page creation so my apologies.GSExplorer (talk) 22:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Request to undo speedy deletion of page: Jenny Fitzpatrick
Hi. I re-wrote this page from what the banned user had originally written and checked every reference. Can you please replace it? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:57, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , I checked before deleting (per WP:G5's rule about "no substantial edits by others"), and have just re-compared the version from before you started editing to the version immediately before deletion. From what I see, your edits wikified and sourced the page but the meat of the page was still what the creator made, and to my eyes your edits did not cross the "substantial edits" threshold. I have no objection to you recreating the page, since the AfD said she's notable, but I'm not going to help the undisclosed paid sockpuppet by restoring their work. creffett (talk) 00:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Can you send me the content, please? If you go back in the article's history, I think you will see that I worked pretty hard on the article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , like I said, I don't want to help the UPE sockpuppet, but I've dropped it in your userspace at User:Ssilvers/Jenny_Fitzpatrick. creffett (talk) 16:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I made a new statement：Dongguan Hoppt Light Technology Co., Ltd.
Thank you, I'm a novice, I don't understand many places, this is my friend's company, I want to make a page for him, now, I have made a reputation on my homepage — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lance sql (talk • contribs) 00:57, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

 * , per the notice you should have seen when you emailed me, I prefer to keep discussions on-wiki rather than over email. Regarding your link additions: adding a business's website as a "resource" like you did is almost never appropriate (and can be seen as covert advertising), other pages having an inappropriate links is not an excuse to add more of them,

and if you are connected in any way to that business you have an undisclosed conflict of interest, which is a serious problem. Please do not re-add that link. creffett (talk) 19:06, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

ClerkAtWork?
I noticed you got red and I got orange. I wonder if we each get our own color? :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 18:07, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , maybe mine's red because people need a stronger warning when I'm involved? creffett (talk) 19:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , That seems unlikely. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2020-23
<section begin="technews-2020-W23"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos.

Problems
 * There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May.
 * The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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Congratulations
Congratulations on passing your RFA. Although I voted against you, I wish you all the best. I'm sure that you will take due notice of all the criticisms in the RFA and end up making a fine admin. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 12:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the note. I absolutely will be taking note, and if you have concerns about my actions, my talk page is always open. creffett (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Well since you ask, I wasn't going to mention it but...I couldn't help noticing your restoration of Draft:Young Active Minds above. Now that was formally correct, since the copyright issue had been dealt with, but personally I would have advised the editor not to bother and start again, paying particular attention to GNG.  It's rarely a good idea to copy from the organisation's website, especially not the mission statement, even if it is public domain.  The user is likely to be wasting their time, and in fact, that is exactly what has happened, the page has been rejected again at AFC.  Charities frequently believe that their charitable, non-profit status means that an article on Wikipedia will be acceptable.  It's usually best to explain to them upfront that this is not the case so that they don't waste time and effort on a lost cause.  That misunderstanding repeatedly ends up with the article at AFD. <b style="background:#FAFAD2;color:#C08000">Spinning</b><b style="color:#4840A0">Spark</b> 16:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , sure, that makes sense to me (and I'm not surprised to hear that it was rejected). I'll remember that for next time. creffett (talk) 16:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Congratulations on passing your RFA. Thanks for making yourself available. - Ret.Prof (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Help regarding an AfD
Hi, I have come across an article Nataša Stanković which is found to be copyright violation as per WP:COPYVIO 76.1% copied from (https://www.celebritiesdetails.com/natasa-stankovic-height-weight-bra-size-age-biography-family-wiki/) having notice © 2016 - 2020 : Celebritiesdetails : All Rights Reserved. at the end of web-page. See copyvio report. The article is currently under AfD at Articles for deletion/Nataša Stanković but I feel it satisfies WP:G12. I have also added the information at AfD discussion. I have also informed the nominator. Do I need to do anything more or wait till the consensus. Please help and have a look. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉  15:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , in this case I think it's a reverse-copyvio - the link you mention has the "article" dated January 2020 but (from a quick look) a lot of that text has been in the article since it was created in 2019. creffett (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , OK, got the point. Thanks for the insight and the information. ~ Amkgp  ✉  15:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Invitation accepted
I'm not a writer (either), but your user page got me. Do you have already a specific article in mind? – Majavah talk &middot; edits 12:59, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I plan to start with Shooting of Greg Gunn - it looks like it could use a fair amount of work, but there's four very reliable sources already cited. creffett (talk) 13:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , also, about 2/3 of it is a direct copyvio, so hold off on editing - I need to do some revision deletion. creffett (talk) 13:09, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Your account has been blocked indefinitely because it appears to impersonate another Wikipedia user. Users are not allowed to edit with inappropriate usernames, nor is other disruptive behavior ever allowed. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text below this notice. For best results, please read the guide to appealing blocks first. — k6ka  <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 02:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Heh. Heh. Okay, nice job, Twinkle. You're welcome to request an unblock, though :) — k6ka  <span title="Canadian!" style="color:red">🍁 ( Talk ·  Contributions ) 02:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

AfD for Earyn McGee
Thanks for handling the administrative work in this case, much appreciated. FYI, the reason for the flood of meat puttets showing up was the article's subject canvassing support via her Twitter. So after all I'm not sure if "SK because chaos" is the right way to go here, though. --bender235 (talk) 02:54, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I tried to make that explicit in my closing - the SK has nothing to do with the chaos or number of votes, merely that it appears to be a disruptive nomination. No judgment from me as to whether there should be a proper deletion discussion later, but I'd give it a few days. creffett (talk) 03:37, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation. As I said, I'm glad you handled this. And as for the article, I actually don't care whether it remains or not, and I certainly won't renominate it for deletion. I'm just worried that this modus operandi of sending one's Twitter army to flood AfD discussions will become the new normal. --bender235 (talk) 04:09, 7 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks - actually I didn't think you'd said anything about me ... there was another poster who'd mentioned my name and the word "derail" in the same post! Nfitz (talk) 20:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I commented (or at least thought I commented) on one of your posts linking to WP:CRYRACIST with a comment to the effect of "please be cautious in calling people racist in these sort of discussions, it's often used as a trump card" (maybe I didn't specifically use the word derail). Sounds like no harm done either way, thanks for the note. creffett (talk) 20:28, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, true ... it's problem when there may be real racism involved (at least on the part of those who started it - as far as I can tell, Bender is acting in good faith). On one hand is Godwin's law. On the other is Godwin's collary. Nfitz (talk) 20:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * As said, it is dangerous to throw around "racism" cries with the intend to end all debate and ignore all previous arguments. Especially when the claim is purely based on a logic like "well they must be sexist racists because the subject was a black female." Once we go down that road we will soon need a purity test for Wikipedians, where only female editors are allowed to handle female bio AfDs etc. Oh, and it was me who used the word "derail," because that's exactly what the accusation did. Although it didn't originate with, if I recall correctly, since the subject's Twitter friends explicitly framed the problem being "racist + sexist" Wikipedians when canvassing for participants in the AfD. --bender235 (talk) 01:19, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

User:craffett
Is this your doppelgänger account? i dont think so. --TheImaCow (talk) 08:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * This is an obvious sockpuppet of User:Kingshowman, as is User:Creffutt, recently created.  Passenger pigeon  ( talk )  10:34, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * #fakecreff creffett (talk) 13:32, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

TPA revocation
Hey Creffett, you might want to revoke TPA for. See their edit after your block. --   LuK3      (Talk)   19:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , see my edit about a minute after that :) I probably should have done the initial block without TPA. creffett (talk) 19:31, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I just saw it as I posted my original message. You're too fast for me! Always appreciate your help :) --   LuK3      (Talk)   19:33, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Ellen Rank
Hello Creffett. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ellen Rank, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Tricky one, but I think the amount of published works is probably a credible assertion of notability sufficient for A7. This needs to go to AfD. Thank you. Ged UK  07:23, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

SPI:Aman.kumar.goel
Hello, you have closed the case but I've found some additional evidence so would like to request another checkuser with an additional account. Also I believe a sleeper check is necessary due to some valid reasons. I would like to post all these issues at the SPI page. Can you reopen it? Also, considering the case had convincing evidence of behavioral overlap, don't you think it's a sign of meatpuppetry? I.Bhardwaj (talk) 14:08, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind. The case seems to have been archived. Appreciate your efforts in investigating the case. Thanks. I.Bhardwaj (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

User at blocked IP address has returned
It appears that the user who was blocked at Special:Contributions/97.115.222.52 has returned at Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:6902:64D0:DC36:684E:C9D5:31F5. They have once again begun edit warring at The New Adventures of Old Christine, The New Adventures of Old Christine (season 5) and Sleep Train Arena. Could you please check on this? Thank you. --Jeremy Butler (talk) 11:34, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , rangeblocked. creffett (talk) 12:20, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Jeremy Butler (talk) 00:46, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

The same user is up to their old tricks at a new IP address: Special:Contributions/2601:1C0:6902:64D0:D193:9F71:38E9:4839. This time they are editing the article for Julia Louis-Dreyfus, an actor in The New Adventures of Old Christine. Would you please investigate? Thanks. --Jeremy Butler (talk) 12:00, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

I and other editors have detected this user vandalizing articles from several more IP addresses. We have begun tracking their activities on the Talk page for ''The New Adventures of Old Christine#"Disbandment" vs "Cancellation". Thanks for looking into this. --Jeremy Butler (talk) 11:21, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Request to retrieve information from speedy deletion of page: Steve Utterwulghe
Dear @Creffett, thank you for your feedback on the creation of the page Steve Utterwulghe, would it be possible to retrieve its content in order to make the necessary modifications that you suggested? Thank you very much.Juliette.roussel (talk) 10:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

SkyVAC duck block
Hi creffett. I'd like to review this block deeper. Adityarbs has a series of duck blocks for promotional/spam edits over the last year, none of which seem to have been checkusered so far. SkyVAC has been active since before Adityarbs' first sockblock, and I'm worried that the duck evidence here needs something more substantial. There doesn't seem to be any behavior overlap except that he has an Indian first name that happens to match the sockmaster's original account, and edited 1 article (about a popular Indian gamer/stream) that the sockmaster had also once created. Behavioral, Adityarb doesn't seem to have ever attempt to appeal blocks or respond to any warnings and focuses on spam/promotion of businesses, while SkyVAC does use talk pages and is fighting to appeal his block, with an almost uniform focus on video gaming topics, of which Mortal happens to be a popular Indian gamer/streamer.

Full disclosure, the user came to WP:Discord asking for help and advise on how to appeal further, and participants (wisely) advised him to follow the messages and guidance on his talk page, resulting in a UTRS that was denied. I've not voiced my concerns to the user directly. I have seen them cross my watchlist in the past year, while I've never encountered Adityarb.

I am not in a habit of questioning blocks like this but I feel I have a strong enough doubt that the only responsible thing is to ask for more review. With deepest respect to others involved here, pinging admins/reporters involved thus far: -- ferret (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I was also on Discord when the user was chatting about their block, and I agree that the case could use a review. In my experience the blocked user is not acting like a sockpuppet usually would, and seems to be making a good-faith effort to clear their name. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 15:05, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I do not have the time or patience to go dig through all their contribs to prove that they are sock/meat again but if you want to unblock them, obviously my objection doesn't matter much but I think it would be a waste of other editors time since there is also some other issues at play here, like UPE and general covert (and not so covert) spamming. Praxidicae (talk) 15:06, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No objection to unblock if you so decide. SPI evidence is often subjective and open to interpretation. I hope the User does not make further attempts to self out. How does one prove a negative? -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 15:09, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Here are my thoughts on the matter:
 * Reviewing the evidence, I can see a case for SkyVAC being unrelated to the master.
 * Separately, I am very suspicious that SkyVAC has some degree of COI with regards to MortaL.
 * I know we're big on WP:NOTBURO, but I am not okay with someone bypassing our unblock processes by going to Discord and getting users there to question the block. I'm not saying that you aren't acting in good faith,, but this is out-of-process and is not a behavior we should be encouraging. We have UTRS for a reason.
 * In this case, I will not object to an unblock, but I fully expect them to get blocked again for promo in short order.
 * creffett (talk) 16:32, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I appreciate all these points, and I'm not at all in a habit of doing this. The main reason I chose to speak up is that it's near impossible for a user to appeal being determined a sock without an outside opinion from other editors. I refuse to discuss unblocks on Discord generally for these very reasons, but I do subscribe to the idea we should assist users with the process in good faith. Once I was aware of the block and had doubts, I did not feel I could in good faith ignore it simply because of how I became aware. I made a judgement call to come directly here rather than the user's talk, etc. I don't at all deny the user has problematic edits, but if that needs a block, we need to block them for that, and allow them to available future appeal options. A user tagged as sockpuppet cannot even do standard offer, as the standard response would be to appeal from their original account. -- ferret (talk) 16:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * TBH, I agree with Praxidicae on the deeper than the surface issues.  -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 16:07, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Mail
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 * , seen, thanks. creffett (talk) 22:56, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Request to undo speedy deletion of Draft: Basement Systems, Inc.
I have been planning a stripped down version of this page with only the most notable citations. Yesterday, I started using the sandbox to work on the page, not realizing it was not a private page, so I then blanked it out. I don't know if that caused the speedy deletion or the delay in updating it. I understand that the first draft had too many hyper-local citations and a promotional tone that was not helpful. I hope to have a new page written to wikipedia standrds within a week documenting the facts and brief history of the company, following examples I have found on wikipeida. While the company belongs in the category Private Companies in Connecticut, it is a developer and distributor of its own patented products and provides training to independent authorized dealers in 49 U.S. states, 10 Canadian provinces, as well as a handful in the U.K. If you would like any other info, please let me know. Thank you for your consideration.Brittanylees (talk) 16:30, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , the content of the page was unambiguously promotional. I note that you previously had a draft of the page in your sandbox, which you can see at Special:Permalink/962032908 if you need to reference it, but given your conflict of interest (and from experience dealing with similar requests) I suspect it will be very hard for you to write a neutral, encyclopedic article. I also remind you that if you are being compensated in any way for the creation of the page (such as writing it as part of your job), that is considered paid editing and a stricter set of rules applies. creffett (talk) 16:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thank you for the speedy reply. I understand and value the wikipedia standards. This was where the page was headed if you want to take a quick peek: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Brittanylees/sandbox&direction=next&oldid=962042603 I was waiting to add a link to patented products, notable projects and the geographic network. Brittanylees (talk) 17:40, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding a WP:SPI case
Hi, I have opened a WP:SPI case at Sockpuppet investigations/Apurbakantiroy22. Would be grateful if you can help. Thank you ~ Amkgp 💬  19:46, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:124.105.197.141
I noticed that this IP was just off of a 48-hour block (apparently resumed editing a half-hour after it expired) when we blocked for 31 hours. I know we don't want to block IPs forever, but I wasn't sure if you saw the previous block. Thanks! Larry Hockett (Talk) 03:34, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I didn't notice actually, so thanks for letting me know - I just had someone pop into IRC to request a block for the IP, saw a lot of vandalism, and hit the block button as fast as I could. I'll go ahead and up the block to longer than that, since it looks like it's the same person behind the keyboard there. creffett (talk) 03:37, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

ip block
The ip block you just made for 124.105.197.141 for 31 hours, I think you should increase the duration since this is their second block for the same offense, and was within an hour of their previous 48hr block expiring. To my understanding, the 31's for first offenses (unless egregious or something), correct? Zinnober9 (talk) 03:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , see the above discussion, Larry Hockett beat you to it :) I actually may need to bump it to even longer - the block log says that that IP is an open proxy, but I haven't actually done proxy blocks before so I need to read up first. creffett (talk) 03:43, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, beaten to the punch! Stemming the bleed of the ip's edits was the important thing given their speed, so I fully understand. No worries. I wasn't sure if you'd accidentally missed their previous block or not, and if you hadn't, was interested in understanding how this case was different. Cheers! Zinnober9 (talk) 03:48, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

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Name change?
Hi, GeneralNotability,

I saw your name in the Deletion log and checked on your user logs because I didn't recognize it as the name of an administrator. I can't find any request you made to change your name so you must have gone a different route. This will take a while to get used to...I was so used to creffett! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 15:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , ha, yeah, I just used the "submit global rename request" form (which doesn't actually post the request anywhere publicly). I've actually been planning to do a rename for a while, but I wanted to wait until after the RfA, and then I couldn't come up with something I liked enough until I thought of this one a few days ago. It'll be a transition for all of us, me included.... GeneralNotability (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Promise you won't set up a sub-page called Guidelines? That'll just break the wiki :-)
 * My attempt to fix your talk archives doesn't appear to have worked, Cabayi (talk) 19:07, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , ...I may have thought about it. I think it's a bot problem at this point - it hasn't indexed the new talk pages yet. I'll poke Cluebot's op if it doesn't re-index in the next day or so. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:10, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You were smart to wait until after the RfA. People can latch on to all sorts of trivial issues during an RfA that are completely irrelevant to ones qualifications. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 22:42, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Just for the record, I'm going to miss creffett. This reminds me of the discussions about my username during my RfA - in a text-only environment, a username is the only prominent personal feature that someone can latch onto - something like a face. I was really unsettled by the thought of changing mine, even if it does make some people waggle their eyebrows. Hope your enjoy your face-lift, and I'm sure I'll get used to it, but I'll miss the old one. Girth Summit <sub style="font-family:script;color:blue;"> (blether)  19:05, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Question
Why were you renamed from creffett to GeneralNotability? --107.77.245.26 (talk) 21:35, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Because I requested it. GeneralNotability (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I for one quite approve of the name :) CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:07, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet investigations/Mitzi.humphrey
Ugh, I must have archived that and not remembered that I'd seen that name before. That's embarrassing. Thanks for catching it. -- RoySmith (talk) 19:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries, I only caught it because I'd endorsed the original request. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:26, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Vishal Kumar Official and Vishal Ravat
Hi Creffet, my head may be scrambled but I think these users may be the same person. However, their user pages have been deleted along with their sandbox and some talk page content. Can you take a look at the deleted content and determine if this is the same person? S0091 (talk) 23:52, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , sure, I'll put on the magic admin glasses and have a look in a little bit. creffett (talk) 23:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you're correct - the userpages were almost word-for-word identical, with only the shortdesc differing. I have no idea why they created a second account, but I will give both of them a warning about the use of multiple accounts since they haven't broken any rules yet. creffett (talk) 02:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * They may have created the second one because they were removing the CSD tag and I gave them a couple warnings. They certainly thought highly of themselves, ha!  Thanks for taking a look.  My head is somewhat relieved. :) S0091 (talk) 02:19, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Fyi - this user is back under a new account and I found another he created a couple days or so ago. I opened an SPI request. S0091 (talk) 19:26, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks, I'll take a look later today. GeneralNotability (talk) 19:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry to keep bugging you about this guy, but I have found 2 IPs that changed Vishal Kumar, an accomplished football player, with this other Vishal's photo and info. IP 47.8.148.18 added the image here, then IP 2405:204:a08f:7c9d:48fd:1118:3983:98a4 changed the name and dob here. Since these are IPs, I have not filed an SPI report but will if suggested.  On another note, please give you furry family member some pets for me. :) S0091 (talk) 14:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , no worries. I count three IPs involved, they all belong to the same wireless carrier. It doesn't look like a rangeblock will be feasible here, so I've semi'd Vishal Kumar for a week, hopefully that will convince them to go do something else. Recommend keeping an eye on the "File Usage" section of File:VISHAAL.jpg to see if it gets linked anywhere else. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I found 2 more images, one that had already been nominated for deletion on Commons so I reached out to the nominator to let them know about other the 2 along with SPI report, etc.  What a time sink! S0091 (talk) 20:45, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail!
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 * , handled, thanks. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Upcoming: live OpenRefine introduction et demonstration, by Vigneron, on Twitch and in French, Tuesday June 16 at 20:00 CEST (UTC+2)
 * Past: Wikidata queries workshop, June 21st, in the frame of the Small wiki toolkits–Indic workshop series


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * When Deno meets Wikidata (blog post)
 * Writing Wikidata Queries (Workshop Notes)
 * Wikidata course at TAU: Hosting Denny Vrandečić. The future of Wikidata, Abstract Wikipedia WikiLambda - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * The currentDate gadget automatically adds the current date when using retrieved in a reference.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * On Commons, c:Template:Wikidata Infobox now has over 3 million uses; see c:Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox.
 * New page about the Bibliography of Wikidata – needs help on expanding the list.
 * Upcoming domain name migration on the Wikimedia Toolforge implies that OpenRefine users need to update their Wikidata reconciliation service to the new endpoint which will be available by default in the upcoming release of OpenRefine (3.4). T254172
 * Wikirecords - proposal for a Wikibase-based sister-project


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: funder, intended subject of deprecated statement, Democracy Index, principal investigator, file page offset, strike tone, applies to name of value, entry receptor, estimated value, media franchise, Dewey Decimal Classification (works), Library of Congress Classification (edition), Universal Decimal Classification (works), Regensburg Classification (works), study type
 * External identifiers: Noovie person ID, NTB ID, sobory.ru ID, Philadelphia Museum of Art person ID, WorldFootball.net stadium ID, National Football Teams.com match ID, EU-Football.info stadium ID, Canadian Football League player ID, cadastral municipality number in Austria, Monasteries in the Netherlands until 1800 ID, Indonesian intangible cultural heritage, Australian Classification ID, Dansk litteraturs historie ID, DLive game ID, MuseScore artist ID, Uffizi artwork ID, MNBAQ artist ID, Cimetières de France ID, Dansk Biografisk Leksikon ID, SIUSA archival fonds ID, Odeon ID, WikiTrek ID, Nomor Pokok Wajib Pajak, Spotify songwriter ID, NVE Elvenett elvID, Proleksis enciklopedija ID, Singapore Infopedia ID, vglist video game ID, Veldkruus ID, BitterDB compound ID, Helsinki persistent building ID Ratu, SIUSA archive producer family ID, SIUSA archive producer organization ID, Museum of Family History ID, Deku Deals ID, Thesaurus Sozialwissenschaften ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: FIBA Hall of Fame, qualifier for this property, Library and bibliographic classification, gloss quote, Vmusic.bg artist ID, black-and-white photograph, Gujin Tushu Jicheng link, version control system, provisions, sleeping capacity, floor area, Dowker-Thistlethwaite notation, Encyclopedia Tatarica (tt) Online ID, twin town sign, floor material, Encyclopedia Tatarica (ru) Online ID, intended background color, is exception to constraint, prohibits, permits, Kunya, jour équivalent dans le calendrier correspondant, context of death, inverse agonist of, seatwidth, external error, set in environment
 * External identifiers: IDU person ID, SPOnG game ID, Bundesinventar der historischen Verkehrswege der Schweiz (IVS), Unique Property Reference Number, Legacy.com newspaper ID, GCatholic person ID, Econlib ID, Opera Online opera house ID, Opera Online performer ID, finalesrugby.fr ID, Opera Online conductor ID, PMSA ID, duden id, KKBox track ID, Rate Your Music album ID, Offizielle Deutsche Charts album ID, locality number in Austria, UNBIS Thesaurus ID, Qobuz album ID 2, AZLyrics.com song ID, GCatholic diocese ID, BBFC ID, Criminological Thesaurus ID, FIPRESCI person ID, Web of Science ID, Crossref journal ID, KBpedia ID, QUDT quantity kind ID, Utenlandske krigsgraver i Norge ID, BWFpara.tournamentsoftware.com player ID, Directorio de Afrocubanas, Maitron des fusillés ID, TheFreeDictionary medical term ID, Spanish Olympic Committee athlete ID, Naturvårdsverket Amenity ID, Supreme Court of Sweden case number


 * Query examples:
 * Apologies for both of the problematic queries ("MWAPI searches in wikidata about people described as slave traders by citizenship" in Weekly Summary #419 and "Monuments named after/commemorating/depicting slave traders” in Weekly Summary #420). The "MWAPI searches in wikidata about people described as slave traders by citizenship” in #419 lists any people with the word "slave" in a label, description or alias, among them several people who are not slave traders. The "Monuments named after/commemorating/depicting slave traders” in #420 incorrectly linked this query for enslaved people instead of this query for slavetraders.
 * Ages of US presidents/vice-presidents: today, when leaving office, at death
 * The subway network of Stockholm
 * Former footballers who have ever been an MP in the UK parliament (Source)
 * Latin American Women Writers with a GND ID (Source)
 * Roads that are named after film directors (Source)
 * Wikidata Queries around the SARS-CoV-2 virus and pandemic
 * Newest WikiProjects: WikiProject Sweden, WikiProject Ennegreciendo/Noircir Wikimedia


 * Development
 * Continue working on the infrastructure review, in order to address the most pressing infrastructure issues
 * Make the Wikibase.git code base PSR-4 compatible (T172368)
 * Work on an overview of existing types of coupling in Wikibase between Repo and Client (T254902)
 * More work on consistency of UX components
 * Handle failed requests to the federation source wiki when saving statements (T254889)
 * Catch federated properties exceptions in getParserOutput and display error page (T255010)
 * Improve the permissions for Blazegraph in wdqs docker image (T237248)
 * Create entitySources config for WMF production wikis (T254315)
 * Participate in fixing several incidents (T255855, T255410)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Elle Hearns
Could you please suppress this edit summary too? No one needs to see this. Thanks. Funcrunch (talk) 15:42, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , gone. Let me know if they come back and I'll just semi the page for a while. GeneralNotability (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-26
<section begin="technews-2020-W26"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to CSS selectors.  should be replaced with   to fix this.

Changes later this week
 * The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 June. It will be on all wikis from 25 June (calendar).

Future changes
 * A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected.

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New sock-puppets of KIKKU PRO UGANDA are back
Hi,, new sock-puppets have emerged. See Sockpuppet investigations/KIKKU PRO UGANDA. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬  15:40, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks, looks like it's been dealt with. GeneralNotability (talk) 17:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Help regarding an editing pattern
Hi, I am unable to determine whether this is a case of WP:SPI or not. Please have a look to this it seems User:Vilty Special:Contributions/Vilty is a WP:SOCK. Thank you ~ Amkgp 💬  19:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I note that Vilty was created in 2015 on fawiki but only went active anywhere yesterday, while Felonii was created in 2017. If it's sockpuppetry, it was a longtime sleeper, which doesn't make a ton of sense. I find it likely that the two are connected in some way, and will drop them both a warning about that, but I don't think this is sockpuppetry. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
Hello General Notability. I made it clear in my user page that I am an employee of Cornerstone, hence I am paid by them. All edits I made included direct third-party sources from non-Cornerstone sites. I did not take any creative liberties or falsify information. I have added the Paid template to my user page as requested. Please let me know when I am allowed to add factual information again. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deairami (talk • contribs)
 * , as a paid editor, you are not permitted to edit the article yourself, and instead are expected to request edits on the talk page so that a neutral editor may verify the changes. I believe that the message I left on your talk page had directions for how to make an edit request. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:32, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 June 2020
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no sock puppet involved
no sock puppet involved[edit] Tony Rodi (talk) 10:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC) Hi Merbabu This was not my edit for Circular Quay. There was no sock puppet involved. Your assumption clearly demonstrates your unfounded opinion referring to "bad" information. Information is either correct or incorrect. "Good" or "bad" are you personal opinion and therefore irrelevant. And yet you accuse me of you own personal bias and editing self promotion. You have also deleted information re the Anti-wall Committee leaving the article meaningless. My involvement and that of Jack Mundey were essential on both the Opera House Precinct East (Circular Quay} and "Gateway Site" (First Fleet Landing Site) development controversies. In fact Jack Mundey was only involved through invitation by the committee I initiated. I have referred to a newspaper article in The Sydney Morning Herald, and you have discounted it in spite of the fact that the article is about several world renown celebrities supporting myself, whilst criticising the source publishing instead of reading the article itself. Your revision editing is in fact appalling and ignorant to the extreme. I have now referred the matter to Wikimedia, and will also contact Wikipedia Administration. You are not promoting collaboration. You are promoting you own unfounded opinions and ignorance. Please stop your unwarranted waring. Tony Rodi (talk) 10:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not Merbabu, and frankly I don't care for you leaving this wall of text on my talk page. The only message I left you was that you should not edit both while logged out and logged in. GeneralNotability (talk) 23:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Page protection
Hi, I noticed that you semi-protected this page a few minutes ago citing "persistent vandalism", but I don't actually see any recent vandalism in the page history. Did you mean to protect a different page? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 01:47, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , nope, I meant to protect that one. Have a look at, for example, Special:Diff/964928154 and Special:Diff/964754292 - the user appears to have been targeted by an LTA, so semi'd their talk page for a week until the LTA gets bored. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Supposed WP:SPI
Hi, I have found a very similarity in editing behavior and reported at Sockpuppet investigations/Taitrung2000. Please have a look. Thank you. ~ Amkgp 💬  03:04, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-27
<section begin="technews-2020-W27"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now.
 * Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Modern and Monobook skins use the ID  for the go button. This is   for Vector. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to   in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use  . You can read more and see a list of affected scripts.

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Sockpuppetry- Case
What is that Sandbox fact that you mention please can you explain!! Tylertoney Dude perfect (talk) 03:02, 30 June 2020 (UTC) , the fact that you and the suspected sockpuppet edited the sandbox within minutes of each other. It doesn't matter, though, a CheckUser found that you were unrelated so the case has been closed and no action will be taken. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:42, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Amon Goth
Can you pls ecp indef this for Arbitration Enforcement. The vandal is still active and making a threat that he will vandalized again like other Poland Jews related article. 123.16.251.122 (talk) 07:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The page has been semi-protected for now, which should be sufficient. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

My apologies
Tony Rodi (talk) 11:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC) Hi GeneralNotability. No malice or offence intended. My mistake. I was unaware of editing whilst being logged in and out at the same time. Thanks for letting me know. Please accept my apologies.Tony Rodi (talk) 11:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , no harm done, just make sure to log in while editing in the future. GeneralNotability (talk) 12:41, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

User Tezwoo
HI. Tuvixer made a mistake, it is an IP address from Serbia [], he not trying to avoid the 3RR  as the user Tuvixer says. Compare these two ip and you will see that i am right, this user is from Croatia and ip is from Serbia who deliberately intervened to quarrel with them.I hope you fix that and remove the 48 hour limit for the user Tezwoo .Thank you
 * Hi, 93.136.48.115 is a sock puppet of user User:Mikola22, who has been known to use sock puppets in the recent past and has been blocked multiple times. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:35, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * User:Tuvixer You probably mistaken me for someone. I do not use sock puppets now not in recent past and I never been blocked for sock puppet, nor will I ever be blocked for sock puppet. Thanks. Mikola22 (talk) 14:44, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 93.136.48.115 wrote: ...Tuvixer made a mistake...
 * Mikola22 wrote: ...You probably mistaken me...
 * Same writing style and also the same bad English that can be observed for example here:, sorry but it is too obvious. --Tuvixer (talk) 14:57, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

lol i not Mikola 22 I'm just reading all your edits from users. Yes i not good in English i use google translate. Let someone examine my ip with Mikola22 and you will see that I am not the one. Tuvixer I just want to tell you that you should apologize to Tezwoo because he didn't break the rule because someone from another country came in and you said he changed the article 4 times.
 * User:Tuvixer I don't know if you heard right? I do not use sock puppets now not in recent past and I never been blocked for sock puppet, nor will I ever be blocked for sock puppet. I hope you understand bad English? Mikola22 (talk) 15:19, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that's how he accused User Tezwoo and so they blocked him for 48 hours, and he's not guilty.
 * Don't worry, this is and your Wikipedia. Feel free to edit articles and don't be afraid of anything. Follow the rules of Wikipedia and that's it. Cheers. Mikola22 (talk) 16:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)