User talk:GeneralPoxter/Archive 2

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
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Incomplete DYK nomination
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Declined Czechoslovakia interwar weapons draft
Hi General Poxter I saw you reviewed an article of mine that went to draft a couple of months ago. Thank you for your effort in evaluating the draft not a lot of people take the time to do that and it is important to help content creators get their articles out their. I have retitled the draft please delete as after that article wnet for submission I made a new one that was far better and so the draft is not relevant anymore here is the article Weapons of Czechoslovakia interwar period. Thank you for spending your time reviewing the articles it does make a difference as without people doing some articles might never get published Anonymous contributor 1707 (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2021 (UTC).
 * Got it! Appreciate the clarification. GeneralPoxter (talk) 15:46, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Request on 03:52:08, 15 November 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Wllmlos
Hello,

Ive amended my article as per your requests. Thank you for your advice. Historicalwriter1910 (talk) 18:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Glad to hear! It's great to see that the article made the mainspace despite the early challenges. GeneralPoxter (talk) 18:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Wllmlos (talk) 03:52, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Greetings

I've been involved with broadcasting for 50 years. I've written hundreds of articles and thousands of commercials. So when you just ripout an article that I have worked on about a person without any normal reasons it rips me out as well. I understand that you might have to edit here or there. Oh sorry, the last reason was that I didn't write like an encyclopedia. In the past I've had articles ripped because these people weren't important enough. My belief is that everyone who is anyone should be found on Wikipedia. IMDB has it way over you because they put Everybody in there. And now you want donations? Forget about it. Go ahead and make your little deletions. I give up.


 * I am deeply sorry I left you with such a bad impression but please don't give up on Wikipedia. I understand that you are a very talented and experienced writer, however the style of writing on Wikipedia differs vastly from broadcasting and commercial writing. Whereas writing styles in those areas are informative, fun, and sometimes persuasive, Wikipedia focuses on formal, technical, and non-biased writing. Therefore, please take care in reading the comment I left for you. It states that you must write in a "formal, encyclopedic tone". Specifically, I was referring to elements of your writing such as "The big thing in those days" and "Things began to get complicated", which may be acceptable in news articles but not on Wikipedia articles. Furthermore, what distinguishes Wikipedia from other sources such as IMDB is that we have a rigorous source reliability and veracity check. We do not permit content that cites no sources such as yours as we are thus unable to perform those checks. I apologize for not being able to spend more time on your article alone. I agree I should I have perhaps left a clarifying comment on your article or made some sort of effort in finding some sources for you. However, we editors also face time constraints as we, too, have busy schedules outside of Wikipedia and can therefore not provide as much assistance as we should. Given that you are a first-time article writer and would like help improving your article, I would be glad to lend a hand. Once again, I am sorry for the rather harsh and blunt response you received. GeneralPoxter (talk) 04:45, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * In addition, on your point that everyone should be found on Wikipedia, there are clear arguments against such a motion. Besides the fact that Wikipedia would simply be overloaded with content that is largely unnecessary and cumbersome for our users, please read this for further details. Given that Dotty Mack already has an existing related Wikipedia article as well as some news coverage, I believe your article submission does indeed satisfy notability guidelines. Finally, it is not required that you give donations. I, myself, have not donated any money towards Wikipedia and will probably not towards the future. I agree that Wikipedia's donation requests are rather intrusive towards non-account users' experiences. GeneralPoxter (talk) 04:49, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Historic Hotels and Doncram
Hey GeneralPoxter! This is the ANI thread I was referring to regarding Doncram and their articles and drafts about historic hotels. I have accepted a couple of the user's drafts since then, as long as the subject can be found to have coverage in secondary sources that aren't pulled from the HHA or the hotel's website. Bkissin (talk) 20:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the link. The article I'm concerned about is Casa Faena, which I recently accepted from AfC and has already been marked reviewed by another patroller. I was unaware at the time of the controversy surrounding HHA as a source, and the only other source cited by the article only mentions the hotel by address. Should we leave the article as is, or should it be moved back into the draftspace? GeneralPoxter (talk) 20:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Oof, that's a tough one. I'd say let it slide for now because you weren't aware. If a new page patroller wants to send it back to draftspace, that it their prerogative. You're fine. Bkissin (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks for the clarification. I'll be more wary in the future when reviewing Doncram's articles. GeneralPoxter (talk) 23:01, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of The Thankful Poor
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Composition with Grid No. 1
Hi GeneralPoxter, I came across this article in the DYK queue and was intrigued by the hook. On opening the supporting source, I couldn't find the "golden ratio" part anywhere. Can you help me to locate it? -- Ashley yoursmile!  11:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. In the Description drop down: "Although Composition with Grid 1, 1918 appears to be a random sequence of squares and rectangles, X-ray photography has revealed that Mondrian first sketched a perfectly uniform grid of rectangles based on the classical golden section". GeneralPoxter (talk) 13:55, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow, I never actually clicked the drop-down. Thanks for pointing out. I'm going to do a full review of this hook then. Ashley  yoursmile!  14:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Short Symphony
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Your GA nomination of Short Symphony
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DYK nomination of Tifton Residential Historic District
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 * It's been two weeks, and no expansion has been undertaken. Unless something significant can be done in the next few days, it is probably best to withdraw the nomination. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'll withdraw. I haven't been able to find anything. GeneralPoxter (talk) 04:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

FYI
Featured picture candidates/The Young Sabot Maker (t &#183; c)  buidhe  06:31, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Nice! Good to see that the coverage of Tanner's paintings here is continually being improved. GeneralPoxter (talk) 06:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Karina Flores draft
Dear GeneralPoxter, I am looking for a reviewer specialist in classical music/opera to get the final approval for my draft, which was extensively reviewed and amended as requested by the previous reviewers; I will appreciate any help or suggestions. Kind regards LovingOperaForever (talk) 21:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can approve this draft. There still seems to be a lot of styling issues (e.g. section title capitalization needs to be title case, inline citations need to follow punctuation, internal links are not used adequately, etc.) From the lead alone, I notice two issues: the some language in the article is difficult to understand ("Her voice is feminine with a dark timbre, brought by dynamic music accent to highlight opera singing's tragic nature." seems very awkwardly translated, and that's just in the lead), and background information for non-opera specialists is insufficient (no internal links explaining what Andriana Lecouvruer, Mozart's Requiem, etc. are). Other issues that might need to be taken care of include the NPOV language (which many previous editors have pointed out again and again). There still seems to be remnants of this in phrases like "This year she also made her debut in her beloved country "Armenia" " (there also does not seem to be a citation for that, and why is Armenia in quotes?). I have not done any detailed source evaluation, but one final improvement I can suggest is adding references to the repertory and performance lists. There may be more issues, but these are the ones I could find in my review. GeneralPoxter (talk) 23:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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The Thankful Poor
[Oh god. What have they done to the edit window? I was just trying to add a new section and I got this weird wysiwyg thing, with an unnecessary second box previewing the very thing I am trying to write here. Why...? And I can't make it go away. Ugh.]

I was trying to say: sorry for depositing that load of new stuff just as you had finished proofreading and copyediting, but I hope you like the new information and sources - particularly on the buyer in 1894 and the sale in 2020. Sorry, I can't get the hang of all the different citation styles, so I just tried to put it down as best I can.

I still think there is a way to go before FAC - not least, on background, because you really need to tell more of the life story to explain where this painting came from, why it is important, and why there aren't any more. And there may be yet more good sources out there to mine.

I have something simmering on Augusta Savage, but that will have to wait. Anyway, I am supposed to be sulking, so I'll slink off for a bit. Theramin (talk) 02:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the advice. The new material was very helpful towards expanding the history section, and I don't mind copyediting a bit more. I feel like going too much in depth towards Tanner's life itself might lose focus of the painting, but I'm very open towards additional material towards background. GeneralPoxter (talk) 02:13, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I added some more information on the "shift away from African Americans" aspect of The Thankful Poor's history using an additional source by Professor Woods. I am not sure if this is adequate enough though, so I would like to see what you think. Some users like buidhe believe it's ready for FAC, but I am not sure whether the "comprehensive" criteria is met yet. GeneralPoxter (talk) 05:07, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , if I were doing a source review at FAC, I would ask if the book "Henry Ossawa Tanner: Modern Spirit" says anything about the painting beyond what's already cited to it? Otherwise, I did a Google Scholar search and I'm not finding much /anything in the way of sources on the painting that you didn't cite. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , I did a Google Book search for The Thankful Poor in Henry Ossawa Tanner: Modern Spirit, and am not able to get any significant and cohesive information on the painting outside of the chronology. However, this is likely because the book is on limited preview, so I am not definitively able to say so unless I find a hardcopy or go through the preview manually. GeneralPoxter (talk) 05:24, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * According to the index, Modern Spirit covers the painting on pages 10, 23, 110. There's another Tanner bio not cited by you that does appear to analyze the painting (pp. 32, 90 according to the index). You might try asking for these pages at WP:RX to be truly exhaustive. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:41, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * , Ah yes, the Mosby book. I was trying to find a readable version of its content for quite some time since a lot of the sources reference this work, but never realized WP:RX to be a helpful resource. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. GeneralPoxter (talk) 05:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, RX is very helpful but underappreciated! (t &#183; c)  buidhe  05:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I mentioned Augusta Savage. You might like Lift Every Voice and Sing (sculpture) (which for some reason I have seen in three different places in the last few weeks). Never mind if it is not your sort of thing.

Good luck with the FAC. I've said my piece above, and I'm sorry but I don't think there is anything more I can do to help. Almost every time I look there, it makes me either cross or sad or both. Let me just say, many suggested "improvements" can make an article worse not better: you'll need to decide for yourself what suggestions to take. But on a more positive front, I suggest you seek input from an experienced editor with a visual arts focus and several FAs, such as Ceoil or Johnbod. Who knows, perhaps they might magically appear... Theramin (talk) 00:35, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the input! Can you point out which specific parts make you "cross or sad"? I thought that many of the suggestions offered on FAC were helpful (though the image review process was quite a pain to go through). GeneralPoxter (talk) 00:42, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

I said too much. Ignore me. Theramin (talk) 00:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You'll never be ignored round here Theramin, but to say I am constitutionally unable to contribute to any article involving Buidhe, so no. Ceoil  (talk) 01:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't want to intrude on any personal issues, but just to make things clear, because buidhe is participating in this FAC, you will not be? I am quite confused by the use of the term "constitutionally". GeneralPoxter (talk) 01:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * General, have been watching closely for a few weeks, with admiration, will help as can. Ceoil  (talk) 04:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * All right, thanks for the support! I'll just follow Theramin's advice and ignore what was said above. GeneralPoxter (talk) 13:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

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Congratulations
Your DYK hook about Henry Ossawa Tanner's The Thankful Poor, and its discovery in a storage closet in 1970, drew 9,126 page views (761 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at Did you know/Statistics. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Eakin's painting of Henry Ossawa Tanner and Edward MacDowell
Greetings,

I have been tasked to ask around for some contacts pertaining to Henry Ossawa Tanner. My employer has an Eakin's painting of Tanner and MacDowell as a portrait study when they were his students. It is one of Eakin's earliest portraits and a fantastic viewing of Henry Ossawa Tanner. Please respond with any information you may have on any organizations that would be interested in such a piece.

argod@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.185.4.93 (talk) 19:26, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Is this for research or commercial purposes? GeneralPoxter (talk) 19:37, 19 March 2021 (UTC)


 * research and for the edification of Eakin's and Tanner's fans. (i.e. to get the piece where it needs to live)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.185.4.93 (talk) 15:21, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Poème roumain
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DYK for The Thankful Poor
Gatoclass (talk) 12:01, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * That's a great one, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Short Symphony: I believe Copland is way too old on that pic, - if that was "my" article, I'd not use it at all, as I don't use the 1748 Bach for cantatas such as BWV 1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Hm that's a good point. I reswapped the photos. The 1962 photo is the youngest version of Copland I could find on WikiMedia Commons; I spent some time looking online for younger freely-licensed photos, but to no avail. GeneralPoxter (talk) 23:54, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * My photo searcher is GRuban, - wanted: a pic of Aaron Copland in the 1930s. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:30, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If it helps, there's this photo of Copland taken in 1933 which has been used on the cover of this book and included in this article. I just can't find the original source of the photo to determine if it's in the public domain. GeneralPoxter (talk) 18:51, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Composition with Grid No. 1
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DYK for Short Symphony
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DYK nomination of Where Are You, Dear General?
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DYK for The Annunciation (Tanner)
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Thank you for that one, great image. Would have been better on 25 March or tomorrow ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK
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DYK for Where Are You, Dear General?
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DYK for Tornado Over Kansas
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DYK for The Dream of Ossian
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The Thankful Four

 * Well done on your first Four Award—it's an interesting topic. Hope you enjoy (or at least groan at) my section header pun. — Bilorv ( talk ) 08:08, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Martok
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Happy first FA!
Congratulations, and would you like The Thankful Poor to appear as soon as possible, or with a certain date in mind? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:43, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello, thanks for the flowers! I actually initially hoped the article would make TFA today (April 28 was when The Thankful Poor was first exhibited at the Earle Gallery), but of course, that's not possible. Instead, I guess Tanner's birthday on June 21 would work. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:30, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Noted on WP:TFARP, - will make a real nomination later unless you want to do it yourself. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries, I submitted the nomination myself. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 15:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * 2nd'd re promotion! A real pleasure to read through. Ceoil  (talk) 18:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for adding to Kammermusik (Hindemith)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for A Boy with a Flying Squirrel
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Edit summaries
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Your JA nomination of The Thankful Poor
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 * 1) Fill in the  https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_Preprints/The Thankful Poor?veaction=edit  at the top (often easiest in VisualEditor)
 * 2) Fill in the authorship declaration form to submit as ready for external peer review to be organised.

Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 00:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. Though I am the predominant author of the article, has also contributed significantly during the article's early stages, and am wondering whether submission should involve their consent as well? GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 00:44, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * It's usually worth looping them in if they are still an active user in case they want to be involved (similar to FA nomination). Example of article info template with multiple submitting authors here. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 00:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I also forgot to mention that during the FA review process, other editors took part in prose/style editing, and I know another who had contributed a sentence now in the footnotes. Do they need to be attributed as well? GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 00:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
 * They are typically attributed by default as part of the hyperlinked 'et al' in the author list. People also often mention them in the acknowledgements section at the end (example). Some guidelines on submitting author list vs acknowledgements section are here. In general, it rarely hurts to maximise transparency. T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 01:04, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Regarding your DYK Review
Hi @GeneralPoxter: Thanks for your DYK Review of List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa. The list is a Featured List Nominee. Would appreciate your comments on the list. Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:31, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'll see what I can do. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of A Boy with a Flying Squirrel
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Your GA nomination of A Boy with a Flying Squirrel
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TFA
Thank you today for The Thankful Poor, about the 1894 painting by Henry Ossawa Tanner! - Great to see it on the Main page. Not a painter, I put my thanks in pics and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I must add on to, I quite loved the article, and it made aware of a painter I had never even heard of before! Props also to making The Annunciation (Tanner), that is one of the most beautiful paintings I have ever seen. Keep up the good work! CaptainEek  Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 07:10, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * also adding on: missing SlimVirgin, and RMF festival opening --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of The Dream of Ossian
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DYK for Cyclist (painting)
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More pages for The Tornado
Hi. You marked your request at the resource exchange resolved before I received Schmeckebier's book. I have it now, and based on the index and skimming, would recommend about 20 more pages than what Gazal world already sent you. If you would like the additional material, please email me so that I can respond with a pdf as an attachment. If I don't hear from you within a week, I'll return the book to the library. --Worldbruce (talk) 05:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 * --Worldbruce (talk) 14:56, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, received! GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 16:33, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
 * , I have one more favor to ask regarding Schmeckebier. According to [ Adams]: "Schmeckebier notes that the painting was created at a time when Curry's first marriage was in turmoil." I use this fact in the Context section of the article, and currently cite Adams for this, but I would like to use the original page number from Schmeckebier. Adams does not provide a page number citation in his book, and after looking through the pages you sent me, I wasn't able to find this fact in them as well. I was wondering whether you could help me find which page number in Schmeckebier this could be referencing? GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 16:47, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Schmeckebier mentions Clara by name on only one page: "In 1923 Curry married Clara Derrick, a daughter of the head of the New Jersey State Home for Boys. He lived first in New York City, and then, after less than a year of Greenwich Village, moved to Westport [p. 19]". The index contains one further entry for her: "In June, 1932, his wife died of heart trouble [p. 63]". In between, we have "Prosser secured a job for Mrs. Curry at the Paris branch of the Bankers' Trust Company [p. 36]", "His wife was working in the bank to help him pay expenses [p. 37]", and "Back home the struggle for a bare existence began all over again. His wife went to work and he once more tried his hand at commercial art [p. 40]".
 * Schmeckebier also writes, "Whereas by 1932 there were these many outward evidences of Curry's professional success, actually the year was one of climax of his desperate unhappiness in his Westport environment. He needed inspiration, a new contact with life, an immediate release from the inner struggles and frustrations that threatened to break his spirit. And so literally he 'ran away' as he expresses it, to join up with the Ringling Brothers' Circus on its spring tour through New England. [p. 62]".
 * My sense is that Schmeckebier considered Curry's domestic arrangements almost irrelevant. He probably means "they" many of the times he writes "he", but it never occurred to him to include Clara in the story. If Curry really routinely lived places and traveled places without her, that might strain their marriage. So might tight finances and the necessity for her to work. If her death was the result of a long illness, that could contribute too. But there's nothing in Schmeckebier to suggest Curry's "desperate unhappiness" was anything but professional. Adams read a lot into this to get "marriage was in turmoil". --Worldbruce (talk) 20:01, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


 * All right, the analysis you provided is quite convincing. I'll omit the Adams claim from the article for now. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 20:03, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Reginald Barclay
Given that there're empty sections at Talk:Reginald Barclay/GA1, does that mean you're not yet done with your initial review? I just don't want to have edit conflicts. Thanks! —  Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 17:09, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Nope, sorry about that. I had to take an inordinately long time for this one due to outside factors, so I appreciate your patience. I'll change the GA status to either On Hold or Pass on the article talk page when I'm done. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 17:14, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Feel free to edit the page though and address my current concerns. I have no edits coming through yet, and I don't mind resolving any conflicts. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 17:15, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Ten-four —   Fourthords  &#124; =Λ= &#124; 04:10, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Barclay image
I noticed you moved the Barclay image into the infobox and that Fourthords promptly removed it again. I found this surprising, since I previously strongly disagreed with Fourthords over this weird inconsistency that he only recently introduced to the article (the other Star Trek character articles put the image in the character Infobox and so did the Reginald Barclay article until Fourthords came along and first deleted the image entirely and then insisted that based on his severe interpretation of the rules the image had to be in the article not the Infobox). I was surprised that you got involved directly in editing the article and changed the image placement, but did not add any comment to the previous discussion or mention your opinion about the image placement in your GA Review. If you have not already done so I hope you will review the past discussions. -- 109.77.207.127 (talk) 13:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I took a glance, but still not really sure what's going on (and don't really want to get involved). Not really a big issue in my opinion, so I just defer to the "de facto" main editor, though I personally think it better to have the image in the infobox from a purely stylistic standpoint. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:24, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
 * What you call the "defacto main editor" looks more like WP:OWN to me. Rewriting the article in a single large edit is not ideal, but he showed up and deleted the image of Reginald Barclay from the Reginald Barclay article! Only after I restored it did he insist on putting it in the article body, ignoring the status quo. I have tried to be polite about it but it is so strange to ignore many years of status quo and many examples of just about every other character article, I just cannot understand why he is chosing to interpret the rules in a way that makes this so difficult and does not improve the article.
 * If nothing else could you please repeat your above comment "I personally think it better to have the image in the infobox" or similar on the article talk. If you in any way acknowledge you opinion or even your unwillingness to address the matter on the article talk page it would be appreciated because that way no one can take the GA review as an active or even implied endorsement of this particular odd choice. -- 109.77.207.127 (talk) 00:16, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Piano Sonata No. 31 (Beethoven)
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DYK for Woodland Sketches
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DYK for Piano Sonata No. 31 (Beethoven)
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Congratulations!
I was wondering who wrote that lovely article on the main page on one of my favourite Beethoven sonatas! Thank you! Double sharp (talk) 03:05, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words, I'm glad you liked it! Though I give due credit to who created the article way back and wrote most of the musical analysis for the article. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 03:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Mahler quote
I see you are working on Mahler 4—an exciting and ambitious endeavor! I've been reading this lovely edition of translated letters between Mahler and Strauss. In one Mahler said this about the 4th: "It lasts about 45 minutes, starts —finishes —and hardly has a real anywhere". Though he seemed to have underestimated the runtime (perhaps it was much quicker back then?) one could always exclude that part of the quote, I just thought the dynamic remark was a succinct way to put it. Let me know if you find the line at all worth including and I can provide the citation information. Excited to see what you do with the article; I haven't forgotten about your Beethoven FAC either, should get to it tomorrow. Aza24 (talk) 05:13, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 * That quote sounds great, and would be nice to put into the overview section at the beginning of Form. Feel free to add the source + the quote to the symphony article itself or my User sandbox where I'm working on the article . GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 06:03, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Bold symphonies
Afaik, we don't typically include the key in the bolded part of the lead, but rather link to it, instead have it in the infobox title. See the Fifth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
 * All right, fair enough. However, it seems Mahler's Eighth also includes the key in bold, so should I fix that one too or leave it be since it's an FA? GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:08, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Four Award
Thank you for another good one. Yesterday I had two interesting DYK (I think), and the day before was at a concert with Daniel Barenboim just playing piano, and afterwards he and the orchestra received last year's prize (pictured). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:00, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank for good DYK reviewing in August! I liked yesterday's Main page, with 4 bolded names I brought there, all in memory: the TFA, nominated for a missed user, the pictured DYK (Alfred Biolek), and two under Recent deaths, Siegfried Matthus and Teresa Żylis-Gara. August harvest. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
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DYK for Geistliches Lied
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New Page Patrol newsletter September 2021
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