User talk:General Ization/Archive 6

Your recent EW warning on my talk page
Please read Koala's edit summaries before you slap me with a warning. I explained my edit, he reverted with no summary, and then told me to "go home your [sic] drunk". I should be able to stand my ground in such situations. Please advise, thanks. EauZenCashHaveIt (I'm All Ears) 00:09, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I read the other editor's summary, and if you'll take the time yourself to read their Talk page, you'll see that I addressed the issue with them. An uncivil edit summary, however, isn't a license to edit war, and your reasserting the edit doesn't "punish" another editor for their misdeeds; it just escalates the situation over a trivial edit that is hardly worth getting yourself blocked. The warning stands; ignore it at your own risk.  General Ization   Talk   00:14, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

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Block of user 108.7.58.110
MaterialScientist blocked the above user for altering release dates for a large number of 1980s singles – while I completely agree with the block as his/her edits were unsourced, I just wanted to point out that his/her dates are very likely correct, at least for the British singles, as Friday was the standard release day for singles and albums in the UK back in the early 1980s. But obviously without any references, it's impossible to prove any of the changes, so I agree that the original dates should be left until we can definiively say otherwise. I may go to the British Library and try and check out some of these release dates in the music magazines of the time. Richard3120 (talk) 18:44, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * The edits were unsourced, no edit summaries were provided, and both the volume and the rate of the changes were highly suspect, on the order of one every 15 to 20 seconds. In addition, many of the singles whose articles were being "corrected" were singles initially released in the US – so if the IP was changing to the nearest Friday based on this convention, the edits may or may not have been correct.  (I do note they were changing dates to dmy format, whether or not appropriate for a given article, so your theory sounds plausible.)    General Ization   Talk   20:10, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Blocking Warning
I got your message for not editing disruptively anymore and I will keep it in my mind. But can you tell me why you gave me the second and "Final Warning" before I even see the first warning and comply to your request ?!?!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bezyjoon (talk • contribs) 23:57, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I cannot tell what you have seen or not seen. I can only see that you repeated the same disruptive edits even after the first warning was left and the edits were reverted with an explanatory edit summary. It's your responsibility to read messages left on your Talk page promptly, and to pay attention to the information in the edit summary if and when someone reverts your change.   General Ization   Talk   00:03, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I believe you should be more respectful to other contributor's right !! and you are not supposed to take advantage of your position !! You gave me warning and I complied with it as soon as I saw it, but You gave me the second warning in LESS THAN ONE MINUTES !! Is that the policy of Wikipedia that you are allowed to give someone the second and final warning in less than a minute, even without give him enough time to read the first one ?!?!? SERIOUSLY ??? I am so disappointed with wikipedia with your unrespectful behaviour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bezyjoon (talk • contribs) 00:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Today, on Jerry Garcia alone, you made a total of 10 edits that were disruptive, including three reversions of other editors' reversions of your disruptive edits, all before the last two warnings you received. Given that you have not yet been blocked, I would not push my luck if I was you.  General Ization  Talk   00:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Protection request at Talk:Roman Republic
That was an IP messing around on talk pages and adding random and at times ridiculous wikilinks to articles. I was going to delete it but you replied - if you want to delete it all, feel free. Doug Weller (talk) 10:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Justin Bieber
Justin Bieber not actor. He never really acted in a movie. In Behaving Badly it makes figuration for 2 seconds and Zoolander 2 will it makes himself. In the series Punk'd he also participated as himself and in Cubed he also does so figuration. Actors and singers are eg Justin Timberlake who has made 17 films still having plans to record other, Jamie Foxx made 33 films and won the best actor Oscar in 2004. If so everyone would be actor and singer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Equipe W (talk • contribs) 01:17, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
 * We do not need to compare the accomplishments of people who act to determine if they are actors or not. There are many actors who have appeared in only one work (stage or screen) and have won no awards – they are nevertheless actors.  Bieber's acting may not be what has made him notable, but it is among his occupations.  You seem to be confusing the term actor with movie star, one of which I would certainly agree that Bieber is not.  Do not remove the content again.  General Ization   Talk   01:22, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

So using your logic Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Watson are singers. Jennifer recorded a song The Hanging Tree and Emma has recorded Fimes singing like The Perks of Being a Wallflower and Beauty and the Beast. I think the real problem is that I'm dealing with a Belieber--Equipe W (talk) 01:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * First, read WP:CIVILITY. I think the real problem is that you have contributed 30 edits on Wikipedia in four months and I've contributed 30,000 in nine and half years. I don't mean to be rude, but spend a little time learning how things work around here before you engage in arguments with other editors about encyclopedic content. And yes, that's correct. They are indeed singers.  They are not recording artists. 01:42, 11 July 2015 (UTC) General Ization   Talk

I actually work at wikipedia the years the account is new--Equipe W (talk) 01:46, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


 * That's nice. Surprising, then, that you are as unfamiliar with the principles we use here (as well as procedures, such as signing your edits on Talk pages) as you apparently are. My suggestion stands. Please stop trolling my page.  General Ization   Talk   01:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Quick little note
I want to drop on by and let you know that I quite like your username. Cheers, —  dain  omite   21:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Reverting the archive bot?
Were you unhappy with the work of the archive bot at WP:AN3? It might have been helpful if you had left an edit summary. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 03:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, not at all. I don't recall the edit; it must have been an errant click.  Apologies to you and to the 'bot.  General Ization   Talk   03:15, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I even had to double-check that I didn't have an imposter, but sure enough, there it is in my contributions. No explanation at all to offer.   General Ization   Talk   03:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Revised message with signature
Hi, I would like to find out exactly why I should be nominated as I am just trying to provide correct information. I was nominated in regards to writing that Sam and Dan Houser are both Americans. They are Americans. It says so in the page below, so I mentioned it at the top too. Where they were born should not be the only identifier. Plenty of people for instance are born in another country, but live out their lives elsewhere and feel they are of this nationality or that. Either way, on a technicality they are still Americans. 58.107.118.7 (talk) 06:50, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have updated the article on Sam Houser to properly indicate that he is English American and has American citizenship. I see no evidence to support the same or any similar change for Dan Houser.  General Ization   Talk   06:59, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Sosyallift
Hello General Ization. I am just letting you know that I deleted Sosyallift, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 11:27, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi General Ization. A quick note: just because an article isn't in English - in this case it was in Turkish - isn't a reason for speedy deletion. You might like to see Pages needing translation into English. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Penguins of Madagascar
Its a little dramatic to remove every review from the section. I think we should keep at least one well written paragraph. Koala15 (talk) 16:38, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Regarding the facts of the Iranian Revolution
Mohammad Mossadegh was never "democratically elected" Prime Minister. Iran has never been a democracy at any point in its history. He was appointed by The Shah. This is common knowledge.

Kindly delete the verbage about The Shah or his reign as monarch in manner that is false. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SonOfIran (talk • contribs) 00:44, 13 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I will do no such thing. Both  and  are reliably sourced.  I will not remove them merely because you disagree with them, and if you attempt to do so again your edits will again be reverted.  You are free to bring up your concerns on the article's Talk page.  General Ization   Talk   00:59, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Jimi Hendrix
Hi! Would you care to comment at this RfC regarding the article Jimi Hendrix? It is about whether "acid rock" belongs in the infobox or not. Dan56 (talk) 04:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

change
Madw my citation and it is correct information. Cthornley85 (talk) 18:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks! I see my post was ok. Just got revised a little which is totally fine. Good job! :) Cthornley85 (talk) 22:34, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

Isaac Newton
I would not normally undo a fellow vandal patroller, but in the case of the apocalyptic dates, the source clearly specifies 2060 and not 2015. I'd rather talk than revert on this one, but the source is plain. Why are you seeing things differently, what am I missing? Thanks!  Scr ★ pIron IV 19:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * See your Talk page. Unintended, no issue at all with your edit.  Thanks.  General Ization   Talk   19:29, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Shin-Soo Choo
I noticed your revert of an edit on Shin-Soo Choo. While I personally have no problem with hitting for the cycle being in the infobox it does appear that Lmeade10 may have a point when it comes to standardizing all articles to not include that information in the infobox as a career highlight (per the current style suggestions, based on WP:Baseball consensus). If in fact there is an opposing view should we take it up in WP:Baseball? This user has changed over 100 articles this way, so if we all have a consensus to include it we should make them aware, and change the others back as well! Thanks, Garchy (talk) 20:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And now I'm confused...is this user putting them BACK after taking them all off? I noticed you removing it...wasn't sure what's going on after a second look! Garchy (talk) 20:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I've got it now - it was Newsjunky12 making the initial changes. We can just ignore this entire thing now :) Garchy (talk) 20:41, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks ... I don't have a dog in this hunt at all, I was relying on the previous, recent reversion of this info (in fact copied the prior summary) for the information that consensus was against the change. Probably should've stayed out of it.     General Ization   Talk   20:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well you certainly made the right call! If only I had seen that the FIRST time I went through the edit summary ;-) Cheers! Garchy (talk) 20:51, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Vandalism concerning Greek mythology
Hey! I do that is right! Golgos is not sure to be Aphrodite and Adonis's son! Tuyết xanh (talk) 15:41, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Adding the comment "(possibly)" to a variety of articles about Greek mythology, on statements for which reliable sources are cited, is not constructive editing. It is an expression of doubt concerning our cited sources, and hence is an opinion that conflicts with those sources.  Please stop now.   General Ization   Talk   15:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And this was pure vandalism, for which you could have no possible excuse.  General Ization  Talk   15:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Hussein Fatal died on Friday July 10th
Dont contribute to the spreading of false information, just because every shitty news agency gets a date wrong doesnt then make it the right date. Heres the first report of the accident, before anybody knew who it was that was killed http://accesswdun.com/article/2015/7/322252/one-person-killed-in-banks-county-wreck-on-i-85

Friday July10th, not Saturday July 11th

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Caszual (talk • contribs) 22:33, 25 July 2015‎ (UTC)


 * Perhaps you ought to take another look at the article and at its edit history. Please remember to sign your comments on any Talk page by typing four tildes ( ~ ).  General Ization   Talk   22:36, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, keep in mind that first reports are more likely to be unreliable, not less, regardless of what they are reporting. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   22:38, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing Hussein Fatals DOD
I apologize for assuming it was you that had changed my edit.I dont ever edit anything on wiki so I was trying my best to figure out how it all works. Thank you for fixing the date and for the tips Caszual (talk) 23:11, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for helping maine
your answer is helpful for mine. (Leave for autosig by robot) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UY4Xe8VM5VYxaQQ (talk • contribs) 01:34 26 July 2015 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. However, please do not rely on the bot to autosign your comments, as this does not happen immediately, and bots are taken out of service from time to time, leaving your comments unidentified and creating confusion.  It really shouldn't be so hard to type four tildes ( ~ ) after your comments, certainly less so than typing "(Leave for autosig by robot)". <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:38, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Deletion of Joyland Update
Since I am new and really have no clue what I am doing, I thought that I would simply give you the information you previously deleted, with the only citation I can find, and let you add it to the Joyland article if you so desire.

Joyland's Roller Coaster was unceremoniously demolished on Thursday, July 23, 2015. http://www.kwch.com/news/local-news/effort-underway-to-tear-down-joyland/32334116

Thanks, Lisa Thomas LTHOMAS55 (talk) 12:40, 26 July 2015 (UTC

Apologies
Am using my tablet, and following a "screen jump", I mistapped on rollback rather than "diff". Sorry for any confusion. -- <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #0099FF, -4px -4px 15px #99FF00;">WV ● <span style="text-shadow: 4px 4px 15px #FF9900, -4px -4px 15px #FF0099;">✉ ✓ 14:37, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

D'oh!
Consider me self-trouted for this edit that you reverted on Friday. Was in a rush at the time, and should've read the actual article a little more closely. I'm just used to people labeling someone a country musician as an insult, and probably more guarded about editsum-less IP edits than I should be. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 11:06, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Persondata
I noticed you are working to confirm the birth date in the Charles Darrow article, and that you have edited the template. That template is depricated, as noted on the documentation of the template. Please delete the template as part of your updates to the article. Also, it is likely the person has a Wikidata entry; please update the birth date and reference there too. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I have seen some discussion (can't recall where) of the

template with the information that the templates should not be removed on sight. Apparently some articles may require further processing before they are removed. I will leave that for others who know more about it. Also, I found an article in the August 29, 1967 edition of the Chicago Tribune that states he died "today". Obviously, that could mean he died on the 29th, or it could mean he died on the 28th and the wire service article was delayed. But I have two sources (Find-A-Grave and the Trib) that both say the 29th and only one (NYT) behind a paywall that (apparently) says the 28th, so I have restored the original date to the article (with the Trib ref and a Find-A-Grave template). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   19:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, I just noticed the Trib article has a slug that specified the story moved on the wire August 28, so I am back to the article to change the date yet again! <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   19:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


 * I also don't recall off the top of my head where the discussion was about persondata, but the gist of it was that we should give an opportunity to copy the data to wikidata before deleting. If you check wikidata and insure the data is at least as good as the data in wikipedia (including referencing) it would be fine to delete the persondata template. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Jjgoatin
I've reported this user to Administrator intervention against vandalism. He was blocked before, used both account and IP, and persists with this vandalism. Only logical end.  Spartan 7W  §  01:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And I reported him at WP:ANEW. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   01:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * He's blanking out talk pages for his various IP addresses. I'd bet you a few Cokes that he'll become a nice sockpuppet.  Spartan 7W  §  01:51, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Don't revert his blanking. He is entitled to blank his own Talk page if he wants to.  Your restoring the content is actually against policy.  Admins know well enough to look at the history, not just at the current state of the page, and his having blanked it is behavioral evidence. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * You say "various IP addresses". If you know of others, you should add them to the reports at WP:AIV and WP:ANEW.  Thanks. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * And you're now at 3RR on his Talk page. I suggest you not continue reverting his blanking. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:58, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Reported other IP address. I intended to stop at 3, thought he was using a different address. I did have the 'eureka' moment on my own, forgot he was going at his own talk page.  Spartan 7W  §  02:04, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Now blocked indef. Thanks. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   13:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Sandy Bullock
I went to ECU with Sandy, worked with Sandy at Heart's Delight Ice Cream Shoppe, lived in the same dorm as her and have had many conversations with her in the past 20 years. I personally know she was not in the graduation commencement program because she was 3 credits shy.

Here is my source: Sandra Bullock - Film Actress - Biography.com www.biography.com/people/sandra-bullock-9542453 Bullock had no problem fitting in, becoming involved in cheerleading and school theater productions until her graduation in 1982. Bullock then enrolled in East Carolina University in Greenville, North Carolina, to study acting, but left college only three credits shy of her bachelor's degree.

GoodnessGrowsAHome (talk) 15:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


 * Please explain then how it is she received a BFA degree at the ECU Commencement on May 9, 1987 and her name appears on page 9 of the linked Commencement program. Your personal knowledge or belief, by themselves, are irrelevant here -- we rely on reliable, published sources, and that certainly appears to be one.  If you have some other reliable source that explains the discrepancy, please identify it.  Note that 5 years elapsed from 1982 to 1987 – enough time that she may have left the college and returned, perhaps more than once.  But we would need a reliable source to say that. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   16:10, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Also please note that even if the source you mention here did not conflict with the cited source, your having made the edit you made without supplying a citation of a reliable source is a violation of our policies on biographical articles. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   16:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Louis Tomlinson
On Leighton Meester's (who is obviously, visibly, about-to-pop pregnant with many photos to prove so) Wiki every reliably sourced mention of pregnancy is removed because apparently there has been no formal announcement. With Louis Tomlinson, no one from his camp has commented on anything at all. It's all heresay so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trillfendi (talk • contribs) 02:33, 29 July 2015 (UTC)


 * The word is hearsay. I personally believe we have adequate sources that report on Tomlinson's pending offspring to include this info, but another editor does not, and removed it; I have not chosen to pursue it, because frankly I don't care whether it's added (as long as reliably sourced) or not. That was over a week ago now.  And please sign your comments on any Talk page by typing four tildes ( ~ ). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

The word is hearsay. I was quite sleepy when I wrote that comment. I should turn Autocorrect back on. Anyway, the real truth will come out eventually, she can't be 11 months pregnant if something doesn't add up. Trillfendi (talk) 15:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

TAFI
Hey General Ization, I noticed that you edited Igloo and I was wondering if you might be joining our WikiProject. We do weekly collaborations and try to push our articles as far as possible. Regardless, thanks for you overall contributions to Wikipedia! Best,  Bananasoldier  (talk) 14:54, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Toowoomba Bus services
You reverted my edit. I am a resident of Toowoomba. I was using polite language when I referred to the suburban bus service as poor. There have been numerous open letters of complain over the last couple of years published in the local newspaper, 'The Chronicle' about the totally inadequate bus service. So much so, the local MP, Ian Macfarlane, has had to step in and 'pull rank' and push for a major overhaul, promised for next year, 2016. I am not a car owner, so the public transport service affects me directly. I am frequently obliged to use the local taxi service, which I have found to be excellent, in both speed of the courteous service and value for money. I have omitted to state this fact about the taxis in my re-submission of your deletion, in case you think I have some commercial interest, which I have not. I simply want to make visitors to Toowoomba aware of the fact the suburban bus service timetable and city coverage network are both poor, and there is NO Sunday service. However, this deficiency in the suburban bus service is off-set by an excellent taxi service Jmrstreetcred (talk) 14:22, 31 July 2015 (UTC) John M. Reynolds. 1st August 2015
 * The contested text you inserted is "The suburban bus service timetable is regarded by many locals as poor, and cannot be realistically used for commuting. Also there is no Sunday service. The suburban bus service is expected to have a major overhaul in 2016." You failed to provide any reliable source.  What survey has determined the opinion of many locals?  What shows that no one is able to use the service for commuting (and that no one does)?  Who expects a major overhaul, and on what basis?  Without a source, these are just your opinions.  Subsequent reversion by another experienced editor confirms my assessment. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   14:30, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Note
I'm not too familiar with the politics of wikipedia so please excuse me if this was not the right place to respond to your note. You left me the note below:

"Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Nemesis (hypothetical star), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. General Ization Talk 23:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)"

I made the edit because the statement in the wiki article was completely made up and the source that it was linked to was completely irrelevant to the information given. I also did state my reason for the edit in the given box.

There were other things wrong with that page but that stood out the most, since the source cited was not quoted. You removed my edit, so I assume that you are OK with people posting lies and not properly sourcing their information?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.79.226.151 (talk) 02:26, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The text you removed from Nemesis (hypothetical star) was: "According to NASA, 'recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals, and thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed.'"  was "THAT SOURCE DOES NOT REFLECT THE FALSE INFORMATION POSTED IN THE WIKI ARTICLE".


 * The NASA JPL article at the citation attached to the quotation here states (in the answer to the last question on the page): "Recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals. Thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed."


 * We rely on reliable, published sources here, not personal opinions. The JBL article is reliable and published, and (very importantly) the statement is attributed to NASA, which means that, whether or not you or others agree with the conclusions of the source article, the statement in the Wikipedia article is incontrovertibly true as it is verifiably what NASA has said.  You may disagree with the author of the source article, but that does not give you license to remove sourced, factual content from Wikipedia articles.


 * As I stated in, "The restored text is an exact quote from the cited source. Take it to Talk [meaning the Talk page of the article] if you have issues with the source, but do not remove the content again." If you do so, you will likely be blocked from editing.  Please let me know if you have any questions. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:44, 1 August 2015 (UTC)


 * And actually, noting the series of recent edits by you that include this, by all means don't let me know if you have questions, because you could have none I would care to answer. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   01:42, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Removal of good-faith comment on Talk:Smoke detector
Hi General Ization! I'm not sure I follow your reasons for removing a comment from Talk:Smoke detector. With new users, we should generally be as welcoming as possible. As you know, this includes assuming good intentions for all edits except blatant vandalism (and this was most certainly not that). That's because we can scare new users away by reverting their unhelpful and helpful edits alike. It's basically biting the newbies. By contrast, if we revert only blatant vandalism without an edit summary (obviously don't want to acknowledge vandals), revert good-faith edits that work against policy or guidelines with an explanatory edit summary, and never revert helpful edits, we can hopefully steer a budding young editor from an immature vandal into a major contributor.

To be clear: We do not expunge a user's helpful edits just because that user has a history of vandalism! Furthermore, anytime a good-faith edit is reverted, a meaningful explanation must be provided in the edit summary (or "See talk page", for long-winded explanations)!

Please note that I do not take issue with you reverting me, but I do take issue with you removing an apparently helpful comment without explaining your issue with said comment (not your issue with the editor!). I'm going ahead and reverting because your explanation (if you have one) should appear in the history of that talk page. If you do have a meaningful issue with that comment and revert me again, please be sure to adjust. Thanks! – void  xor  21:15, 3 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Quite candidly, I don't have the time to retrace my steps as of the 10th of last April (or much chance of success at doing so), but since the editor in question was blocked indef for LTA by 10 minutes after I reverted their edit at the subject Talk page, I'm pretty certain there was a good reason at the time to consider any of their edits at that point to be not constructive – even those that appeared to be innocuous.  I'll take to heart your criticism of me for not including an edit summary at the time, but you can rest assured I wouldn't have reverted the editor just because it appeared to be a new user, or because their comment didn't appear particularly useful (though it didn't). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   21:29, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
 * It was probably a David Beals sock: several were blocked in that time period and Smoke detector is a frequent Beals target. DFTT applies here.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:23, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * That sounds familiar. However, I guess I should ask if your interpretation of WP:DFTT supports my having reverted the editor's comment, or not. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Revert, block, ignore applies too.  Acroterion   (talk)   00:34, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks., please let me know if you have any other questions. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   00:38, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Harry Porr Error
I myself have been a member of the Orange County Republican Committee since 1971. I can assure you that Harry Porr was NEVER, I repeat NEVER, Chairman of the Orange County Republican Committee. The City of Newburgh Committee -- I believe so. The County Committee -- never. A man named David McCarey from Middletown who is now deceased (his brother John is currently director of Real Property in Orange County) was chairman in the late 1980's and early 1990's. I believe he was chairman when Harry Porr ran unsuccessfully for County Executive in 1989 (Harry certainly wasn't chairman then!) McCarey was succeeded by Clifford Barber about 1991. Cliff was Chairman originally in the 1970's and served as Director of the West Point Mint during the Reagan Administration. Cliff Barber did not seek reelection in 1995 and was succeeded by John Hicks of Chester, who served until he was defeated for reelection by Bill DeProspo in 2003. Coincidentally both Barber and Hicks died during the past two years. Harry Porr was NEVER Orange County Chairman.Nghtownclerk (talk) 18:07, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I may have been tripped up by a mirror of our apparently erroneous content here. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   18:41, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Nghtownclerk (talk) 15:06, 6 August 2015 (UTC)Thank you for your extremely gracious reaction to my post. Now, let me state that I wish someone could update the politics section of the Newburgh (city), New York article. The city went to a ward system for their city council and in 2013 elected four councilmembers, each from a different ward within the city. This year, they will elect a mayor and two "at large" council members. I simply do not know enough about it to update the article myself. If someone could step forward to do that it would be very helpful and very welcome.Nghtownclerk (talk) 15:06, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Creedal vs. credal
It turns out that creedal and credal are both correct. (See, for instance, https://www.ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=creedal) The latter is probably a self-conscious Latinization, and I think is the preferred British spelling. It's honestly the only way I recall seeing it. In any event, I should have looked it up first. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrrhum (talk • contribs) 00:15, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for letting me know. The sources I looked at only listed the creedal spelling. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:18, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

River Phoenix
this is not a true fact on River Phoenix and his family...who ever wrote it in the first place does not have a clue.

UNTRUE NON FACT It was during their last years in South America that the entire Phoenix family became vegans.

this is the true fact: what SkyPhoenix6 edited 10 minutes ago, as a family member


 * I answered on your Talk page.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:02, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

On comments
I had realised, yes. I was going to revise that aspect of the comment on my next edit--probably to the style Lagr' used, as his comment's a model of clarity in my view. In the interests of efficiency and brevity are you comfortable with removing your comment if I do revise mine? 146.200.32.196 (talk) 04:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   04:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I added my comment not so much to criticize you as to make sure that the admins didn't inadvertently interpret your comments as I suggested they might. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   04:05, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem. It was a sensible improvement. Thank you. 146.200.32.196 (talk) 04:38, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

How is a sentence of a film description considered copyright violation?
In regards to The Gift (2015 film). I'm confused. How is a sentence of a film description considered copyright violation, especially if it is cited? I'm just learning about Wikipedia editing so apologies in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plantduets (talk • contribs) 18:52, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Any time you copy text verbatim from another Web site (as here), it is presumed to be a copyright violation. Anything posted here must be in your own words, unless quoted, and if quoted it can only be a brief excerpt from an original source (and we do not use quotes for plot summaries of films here). See the links in the message I left on your Talk page for more information. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   18:59, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the update. I've attempted to manually condense the plot for that article instead of copying from elsewhere. Hope that is OK. Plantduets (talk)

Deleted Content
OH YEAH SORRY I JUST SAW THAT I WAS LOOKING THAT UP RIGHT AFTER I DID THAT EDIT SO SORRY No Hard Feelings Right? --Caleb William Lott (talk) 13:36, 14 August 2015 (UTC) Caleb Lott

The Big Bang Theory
Ironically, had you followed the advice that you gave in this edit summary and explained why you were removing large amounts of content, would not need to ask why you removed it. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 17:36, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Which edit are you referring to?


 * 13:27, 15 August 2015‎ General Ization (-14,378)‎ . . (Reverted 1 edit by Bilorv (talk): No, and you mighht have asked me. (TW))
 * 10:13, 14 August 2015‎ General Ization (-14,378)‎ . . (Reverted 1 edit by General Ization (talk): Please use an edit summary when you are making constructive edits, especially large removals. (TW))
 * 09:59, 14 August 2015‎ General Ization (+14,378)‎ . . (Reverted 1 edit by Giopatrick99 (talk): Rv unexplained content removal. (TW))
 * All three edits included summaries. The second should have made it clear that I found that the removal was constructive, hence my self-revert. Apologies that it (obviously) did not. None of us should rely exclusively on edit summaries to determine the context of an edit, since there is only so much space in the ES field. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Instead of writing Please use an edit summary when you are making constructive edits, especially large removals you could have said something like "Self-revert - deleted content has been moved to new article List of awards and nominations received by The Big Bang Theory" and then left uw-editsummary or a note on Giopatrick99's talk page. Just a suggestion. -- Aussie Legend  ( ✉ ) 19:06, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Revert on The Big Bang Theory
I sense I upset you with this edit to The Big Bang Theory. I saw you had made two changes in a row, both of which seemed to have comments directed at other users. The summary "Please use an edit summary when you are making constructive edits, especially large removals." didn't seem to explain why you were self-reverting; I found the whole sequence of edits quite confusing but I thought perhaps you thought your first revert didn't work, or accidentally performed it twice, and ended up accidentally reverting yourself. I still don't really understand what happened. I apologize for not contacting you first, but using the undo button notifies you automatically anyway and I was – at the time – fairly sure that I was fixing a problem. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 17:41, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No, not upset at all. It really was more of a suggestion; I have no right to require anyone to contact me before reverting or reinstating an edit, it just might have saved some time and trouble.  I found the previous editor's edit was in fact constructive (because they had moved the content into a separate article and added a  template), so reverted my restoral of the moved content. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, no harm done. I was slightly confused as the page seemed to have existed since March and your edit summary didn't mention "self-revert" or indicate (as far as I could tell) a change of mind. These small boxes we have to explain ourselves with can create a lot of confusion sometimes. — Bilorv(talk)(c)(e) 17:54, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

maybe you should erase this too while ur at it ..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sky_Phoenix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyphoenix6 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, maybe I should. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   16:42, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

My idiocy at ANI
My apologies for misreading that deleted image. Very embarrassing for me, I guess I ought to get my eyes checked. GABHello! 15:55, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem at all. My prescription is overdue for an update myself. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   16:05, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess it made sense in context - after all, that sort of fringe source would probably rant about the "gay-dominated media" anyways. GABHello! 16:38, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Rosie Huntington-Whitely reversions.
Your reversals of my corrections are incorrect corrections by the very rules to which you referred me. There are numerous correct citations in the rules of grammar offered for Wikipedia users that demonstrate the proper use of punctuation inside and outside quotation marks. You restored the incorrect use. Wonder why? The whole enterprise has been a waste of both our time. Monibu8 (talk) 23:49, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently you haven't read MOS:LQ carefully, because, no, none of the were correct per that guidance. Perhaps you can tell me which ones you think were correct as you edited them?  Is "Burberry Body" a complete sentence?  How about "Breakout Stars to Watch for in 2011"? "Model of the Year"? I could go on, but I don't want to keep you from your reading. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

AMPAS controversy
General Ization, I was not aware of this previous discussion and had only dealt with the issue at the article level keeping an anonymous IP (now known to be Dennis Spiegel) from making changes that were not consistent with Wikipedia policy. Hopefully your changes will appease Mr. Spiegel, but more importantly it is a good resolution to the problem that can be easily and effectively enforced. Thank you for your edits. Spidey 104  16:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Understood, thanks. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   17:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

The Future of Oil
Sir, I've corrected the reference suggested by you for "The Future of Oil" book. But I'm still seeing a warning message. Can you pleas help? I'm new and learning. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertan2014 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The notices are still there because the issues they identify still exist; they are not corrected by merely adding "Patel works for Suncor Energy Inc." to the article with a link to the book's Web site. The article still needs a) citations of multiple reliable, published, independent sources (the book's Web site is not independent) that establish the book's notability and to verify the article's claims about it; and b) work to make the article less like an advertisement and more encyclopedic. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   01:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much for your prompt reply. So, how do I remove that comment (Patel works for Suncor) so we can get rid of all the warnings. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertan2014 (talk • contribs) 03:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I think you've misunderstood my reply. The notices have nothing to do with the comment about Patel working for Suncor.  They have to do with everything else in the article. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   03:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * ok, thanks. I thought that I screwed that page after I added that comment. thank you. How do I improve the article? Any suggestion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertan2014 (talk • contribs) 03:35, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Find and add citations of multiple reliable, published, independent sources (the book's Web site is not independent) that establish the book's notability and verify the article's claims about it; and b) work to make the article less like an advertisement and more encyclopedic. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   03:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks, do you consider the below as the reliable source?
 * http://www.theoilandgasweek.com/030413/subint1.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertan2014 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)


 * No, that is an article by the author of the book, therefore not independent or reliable. Please read the articles at the links I have repeated several times above if you would like to learn more about reliable sources, notability and the other issues outstanding at this article. And please always sign your comments on talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   03:53, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

ok, thanks a lot for your help, I'll look into it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Albertan2014 (talk • contribs) 12:20, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

"Avoiding the issue altogether..."
...makes it wrong and wikipedia doesn't like errors. As an editor, you should be here to help grow an encyclopedia, not hinder it by intentionally making mistakes.Cebr1979 (talk) 21:24, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * respects all conventions of English grammar and the Wikipedia MOS when it comes to a date appearing in the middle of a sentence. If you disagree, you are mistaken.  I happen to agree with your opinion concerning commas after introductory phrases (e.g., "In 1978, the committee ..."). However, if a sentence can be rephrased to avoid a construct other editors find problematic, that is often the best course of action (certainly better than edit warring over it).  That is certainly the case here. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   22:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah! I do extend my apologies. Your edit is actually better. Cebr1979 (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Suggested Baruch College edits
Greetings... You recently reverted (appropriately) the changes I made to the Baruch College entry under the name Baruch_OCMPA. I had chosen that screen name for transparency purposes, but it subsequently was blocked by admin Orange Mike for failing WP:ORGNAME.

After doing some research on Wikipedia practices, I've made some suggested edits on the Baruch_College talk page. I welcome any feedback you may have.

Lex 1503 (talk) 13:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Your draft article, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/David S. Yost


Hello, General Ization. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "David S. Yost".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply and remove the  or  code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at WP:REFUND/G13. An administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. JMHamo (talk) 11:10, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Words
Why do you keep erasing my words ALL I AM DOING IS HELPING THE LGBT WE ALREADY HAVE A BAD NAME SO I WANTED TO CHANGE THE WORDS TO SAME-SEX ACTIVITY BECAUSE THEY ARE HETEROSEXUALS AND SEXUALITY ISNT A CHOICE THE WAY THOSE SENTENCES WERE WORDED MADE IT SEEM LIKE IT YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT ITS NOT VANDALISM TRYING TO GIVE US A BETTER NAME! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HETEROSEXUALITY77 (talk • contribs) 03:09, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You are helping no one. The accepted and neutral term is homosexuality, that was what was said and meant in the articles you edited, and replacing the word with "Same Sex" or "non-heterosexual" is not constructive editing (and certainly not correcting a "misspelling" as you claimed). Your username suggests you have something other than "helping the LGBT" in mind, and that community can get along very well without this kind of help.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   03:15, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Unexplained revert
Hi. In this edit you reverted an edit I had performed. Not only did you not offer any explanation or even an edit summary for the edit, but the resulting prose does not reflect the source accurate. Specifically, you changed the WP text so that it stated that people said Tyron Harris "could not have known he was shooting at an unmarked police car". The source does not say that. Instead, it says that some people said Harris MIGHT not have known he was shooting at an unmarked police car. This is a very big difference in meaning, which you presumably can understand without requiring further explanation. Anyway please take care in the future when blindly reverting others. Correct stuff thats wrong (talk) 12:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * My reversion restored the existing text. I have reviewed the cited source, and your edit was correct and will stand. However, you should note that when a brand new account with a username like "Correct stuff thats[sic] wrong" appears and starts changing text in a controversial article with (likewise) no edit summary, a presumption of vandalism will exist. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   12:18, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * What a stupid presumption. An innocuous little wording edit doesn't call for much of an edit summary.  Correct stuff thats wrong (talk) 12:24, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Then count me stupid, too. While nothing is 100% reliable, the most reliable marker of incompetence that I've seen is absence of edit summary. A good edit summary would have been "correct per source", thereby giving some indication that you know what you're doing. What's really stupid is calling someone else's judgment stupid when you're clearly in the wrong. FYI, I don't know this guy, I don't have this page watchlisted. I started at Ferguson unrest, which I do have watchlisted, and ended up here. &#8213; Mandruss  &#9742;  13:12, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Congratulations — stupidity loves company. The surest sign of competence is a competent edit, which isn't hard to identify if you take a moment to look at it instead of applying a silly "if no user page, then revert" rule which has zero basis in any policy or rule of good sense.  Furthermore, probably most edits on Wikipedia are not given with an edit summary.  Quit while you're ahead IMO.
 * Edit: a little inspection reveals numerous edits by a user without a userpage which were not reverted by either of you, despite being unaccompanied by any edit summary, and in fact both of you reverted to restore this material that was inserted without explanation or talk page comment by a user with no user page. Mind you, he wasn't just correcting existing prose to match the source — he was adding new material, and to a controversial article, no less!  Yet he got some very different treatment.
 * Gosh, it's almost as though you both made up a silly ad-hoc rationalization to justify a pointlessly bad edit — after the fact of course. Correct stuff thats wrong (talk) 23:03, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A truly amazing amount of arrogance for a "new" user. So far, your single edit in article space appears fine, but you have above violated a basic rule here, that being civility.  I can't help but wonder if a little research might reveal a previous, less than stellar, history, and that you are a sock.  I'll thank you to assume good faith, and to treat me, and others including, with courtesy in your comments on my Talk page.  If you can't agree to do that, I ask you to refrain from posting here. If you have some complaint with me, you can always take it up at WP:ANI. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't claim to be a new user. Do you want to be applauded for your bad decision-making, or are you just unwilling to apologize for it, or even admit to it?  Can I count on this much hand-wringing and dumb scrutiny for every single innocuous, obviously valid and easily verifiable edit I make, or have you now added me to a whitelist of "acceptable users" who are allowed to edit Wikipedia on your watch?  (Actually using the word "scrutiny" is using the word generously; you didn't apply any, at least not regarding the article content that you reverted.)
 * You want to see arrogance? Look in the mirror, dispense with the veiled threats, and stop trying to justify conduct for which you ought to be apologizing. Correct stuff thats wrong (talk) 11:57, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I acknowledged my error above, while explaining that from the standpoint of a rollbacker, your edit was suspect for the several reasons I enumerated. I will not apologize for it.  If you require an apology in order to be civil, you will be sadly disappointed, and if you continue the incivility, you will find yourself at ANI post-haste. Now drop the stick.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   14:53, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * "Acknowledged the error"? Sounded more like you were telling me it wasn't an error and you were actually right, for the reasons stated, which were quite stupid and were not a basis for reverting.  You shouldn't have reverted, and you should have apologized without further comment when I complained, rather than posturing as if you did nothing wrong.  Usually one reads the source and checks the edit before reverting it, instead of reverting without any inspection whatsoever and then leaving it to the other user to bring it to your attention that you've mucked things up. Correct stuff thats wrong (talk) 23:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

John Titor
I would like to know how this change is vandalism?

John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards, by a person or persons, during 2000 and 2001 claiming to be a time traveler from 2036

vs the origional

John Titor is the name used on several bulletin boards during 2000 and 2001 by a poster claiming to be a time traveler from 2036.

DID YOU EVEN READ THIS MINOR (AND FACTUAL) CHANGE THAT WAS DISCUSSED IN CHAT, no I don't think so, you did not have time to do so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.168.158 (talk) 16:35, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please explain how was an improvement to the article.  It removed a number of relevant wikilinks from the section, added the meaningless "by a person or persons" (yes, we can assume it was one or the other, without saying so), moved a ref away from the text it supported, and inserted a new paragraph break. The change was not discussed on the Talk page; the "discussion" consisted of  2 minutes before you made it.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)


 * There are two key elements changed. 1) person or persons replaces "poster" 2) In these posts, the fictional, Titor
 * Combined these two changes indicated that one or more people may be constructing an internet story or meme.  3) the third change which was blocked by aggressive censorship and reversals pertains to the fact that elements of the story did not materialize.   Wikipeida currently presents this entry as biographical which implies factual not fictional; someone on the fringe looking for confirmation bias would misconstrue that to be the case.   The real issue and concern is overaggressive censorship on your part and on the part of other administrators that block this venue from having veracity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.39.205 (talk) 23:38, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


 * To the contrary; what we (those of us who have reverted your edits) are doing is preserving the integrity of our article. Nowhere in his coverage of Titor at the cited source does Alwyn Scott state that Titor is (or they are) fictional or include any language that would imply this.  Nor does the other cited source do so, and in fact appears merely to be an effort to compile the predictions attributed to Titor while taking no position on their origin.  Since neither cited source says or implies that Titor is fictional, your insertion of the term fictional must be a reflection of your personal opinion rather than the opinion of a cited source.  That is called original research, which is strictly forbidden here, and violates our policy on neutral point of view.  Also, since multiple editors have now reverted your edits, that means they reflect consensus, which is how such matters are decided here (preferably after discussion on a Talk page, but you did not pose the question there; you simply stated your proposed edit, and then made it two minutes later).  Lastly, I have already pointed out that "person or persons" is a useless and verbose construct.  Since the identity of Titor is unknown, it is obvious that it could be one person or more than one person without explicitly stating it in the article.  Whoever or however many they are, they were indeed the "poster", and that is what our article says.  Please stop with your accusations of censorship, and take some time to actually read Wikipedia's policies before you edit further.  Also, please always sign your comments on any Talk page by typing four tildes ( ~ ).  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:33, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Deleted Page
I'm not sure why you marked Incomplete sentence and unsourced for the Ed Blaze page, if you even bothered to google you should see that his a comedian with reference, I'm not sure what is your problem, maybe because I'm a new user and that's how you treat new user?

If you really wanted to help you could've at least google him, and see articles about him, this sounds like just because you never heard of him, then you act prejudice and deleted him for no reason at all. it's a shame for people like you that have prejudice instead of improving contents

Jacob — Preceding unsigned comment added by BerginWatch (talk • contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC) :


 * Jacob a/k/a
 * was at the Mike Lawrence (comedian) page.
 * A test for you – please identify the subject noun in this sentence: "Also traveling nationwide doing stand up with fellow comedians such as Rachel Feinstein, Ed Blaze and  Artie Lange, to name a few."  (Hint: There isn't one.  That makes it an incomplete sentence.)
 * You cited no source for the claim. In biographical articles, "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be explicitly attributed to a reliable, published source." See WP:BURDEN.
 * I'm not sure why you titled this section "Deleted Page", since the page has not been deleted (nor did I suggest that it be).      <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:58, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry
I just got your message, and I want to let you know I'm sorry. I thought that info I found was a source, but I guess it wasn't. I apologize for not putting the right one. 24.63.252.21 (talk) 21:39, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Unspell
Please visit Unspell and realize that this is an academic project. Wikipedia really likes to be an ivory tower at times.WikiPunt (talk) 23:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Please visit WP:SEEALSO and understand that external links never belong in the See also section, and academic project or not, unspell.it is basically Dmitry's blog (and Dmitry is not a "recognized expert") and therefore falls under WP:ELNO. I can arrange to have this site blacklisted if need be.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:35, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * You haven't said anything about my ivory tower claim, and are only perpetuating it. Can you read any other script besides Latin?WikiPunt (talk) 21:58, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't create Wikipedia's policies, but they are there for good reason. I'm not interested in debating them with you. And I read Greek, not Latin. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   22:04, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Greek would count. I meant the alphabet, not language. You still are being an ivory tower. Here is Dmitry Orlov being interviewed on RT.WikiPunt (talk) 22:21, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj is Trinidadian and not American
Nicki Minaj was born in Trinidad, Therefore she isn't American, American isn't even supposed to be there. She stated in an Interview with VOGUE "I'm not American, I'm Trini and I'm proud to be an Island girl" Once more I state she is Trinidadian weather you like it or not, You cannot appoint someone a nationality just because they live in that country, She is still a Trinidadian being born there. Stop giving false advertisement of her being American because there are people who will believe that she is American after reading this article when that is clearly wrong, Why Edit something if your editing it with wrong information. You need to stop putting that she is American. She have said numerous times that she isn't an American and she is still Trinidadian. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PositiveEM (talk • contribs) 19:39, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Pursue this at Nicki Minaj, not at Pink Friday. Whatever her legal citizenship may be, she grew up in America (where she moved at the age of 5) and currently lives and records in America, which for the purpose of the latter article makes her an "American recording artist". Whether or not she has applied for and received American citizenship, this is how she is described at the biographical article based on sources such as this, and that is where this issue needs to be addressed (if at all).  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   19:45, 15 September 2015 (UTC)



You are completely wrong, You American's like to take everything and make it your own, For example look at "Rihanna" she was born in Barbados and did most of her recording in the United States, But do they refer to her as an American recording artiste ?, Now did they?, You need to stop doing that it is wrong, She is Trinidadian stop misleading people.

Assuming Good Faith?
While I appreciate you pointing out my mistake (that there isn't any immediately identifiable proof that he is still Britsh), making a null edit to call me a dummy is going a bit too far. I am at the moment trying to convince the other party in this editing conflict on IRC that you're simply acting in the best interest of Wikipedia, but continue to make bad faith edits like your most recent one and I might have to side with her instead. Talk pages area really more the place for explaining yourself. Primefac (talk) 01:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I must partially rescind my comment. I just realised you were indicating a dummy edit, not calling me a dummy. My mistake, and I apologize for the implication that you weren't AGF. Still, my point re: talk pages is still valid - better to make a talk page edit than a null page edit. Primefac (talk) 01:19, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As a follow-up to my reversion of your edit immediately prior, I disagree -- a dummy edit made more sense under the circumstances. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   01:35, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Re: That message
Because it was vandalism. I was letting him know the IP edited it. Krett12 (talk) 04:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Wheelchair
Hello, anonymous "general ization". You deleted my edit for wheelchair / sports variants. Please cancel your deletion.

Please verify your sources, deletion policy should include reading the alleged source, prior to deletion. I provided quality knowledge and a valid link for a website.

There's utter nonsense on the page. There are sports available for powerchair users. There is no valid reference for such claims.

Electric Wheelchair Hockey has been around for over 40 years acknowledged International Paralympic Committee (IPC) and http://www.iwasf.com/iwasf/index.cfm/contact/ IWAS, International Wheelchair & Amputee Sports Federation govern wheelchair sports in the world. You may contact IWAS: Olympic Village, Guttmann Road, Aylesbury, Bucks HP21 9PP United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1296 436179  Fax: +44 (0)1296 436484 - or perhaps you should read the web page I provided, www.iwasf.com -- http://www.iwasf.com/iwasf/index.cfm/sports/electric-wheelchair-hockey/

Please check your facts. The webpage I provided has the data available for a person to read and verify authenticity.

Only a robot is not able to read properly. Human knowledge is far more superior.

Yours truly,

Mr. Miro Reijonen former Head of Development Committee 2012-2015 IWAS International Wheelchair & Amputee Sports Federation Miroilmari (talk) 17:38, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Teric; Tirich Mir
You already know this but I thought I would comment that these two articles are far from clear about whether Teric is a misspelling or a different entity. Tirich Mir is a mountain according to the article about it. However, the article about that mountain states that there is a village "Tirich." Is that the same or different from the "administrative unit" that the Teric article covers? Should the village of Tirich be mentioned in the Teric article or is a redirect actually appropriate or are they completely different entities? Perhaps it would be easy enough to find the answers online but I wonder whether someone familiar with the locations ultimately will need to sort it out. Not that the most recent editor is necessarily right. At this point, this one has become puzzling to me. Donner60 (talk) 02:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * The user making these and other persistent edits is a sock of . I have reported  and the IP  at SPI.  The IP has just been blocked. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:39, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * See also User talk:SIGMA OMEGA, which is enlightening. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   02:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Both blocked, templates salted, SPI tagged for close. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 02:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for detecting that and letting me know about it! Donner60 (talk) 02:53, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Chitral
Please tell us what you think at User talk:Cripsion. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:31, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Dave Goldberg reliable source comment that you left for me
Dear General- I am the reliable source as I am (was) Dave's brother. I don't need to cite myself when correcting other contributors mistakes. Thanks. Iamrobgoldberg (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, you most certainly do. We a) cannot assume that you are who you claim to be just because of your username or your comment here, and b) require reliable, cited sources for all information added to the encyclopedia, especially in biographical articles.  If you continue to add unsourced content, especially that which directly contradicts our cited sources, you will be blocked from editing.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   15:42, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
 * An obituary in the Washington Post is a reliable source (and not circular): "David Bruce Goldberg was born on Oct. 2, 1967, in Minneapolis". Your edit claimed he was born in Chicago, contradicting this source. We will need another, also reliable, source to change this information.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   01:35, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Marysville Pilchuck High School shooting
Hi General Ization.

Just FYI, your edit here introduced a pile of red cite errors in the references section. There were eventually about four refnames with the same content. Haven't tracked down where the others occurred, but I fixed them all (fingers crossed) here. Regards, 220  of  Borg 06:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

October 2015
Hello, I'm Mono. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to User talk:Roy opo opo opo because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The reverted edit can be found [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=687348042 here]. Mono 00:36, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you ought to take a closer look (and take a look at my Talk page while you're at it). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   00:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Sorry! I clicked the wrong button for the wrong edit. Was about to revert this msg before you replied. Mono 00:39, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * No problem, I've done that myself. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   00:40, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Reversion of my edit
Hey, so I was reverting something I believed was vandalism at Chewing Gum. You may have reverted my revision accidentally, or if my edit was actually vandalism, please let me know. Thanks!  Razr 95  ☣ 00:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yup, in error, apologies. Note my self-revert. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:35, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

October 2015
Fixed the lack of citation. BTW, did you notice that the entry before mine was unreferenced? olef641 07:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olef641 (talk • contribs)

Layla Kayleigh
PLease stop removing it. Her birthname needs to be in the article. WHY is listal not reliable? How do I cite the bbc radio interview that I heard where she stated her birthname is Zara? Did you even READ the article to see what it says or you are just trying to get you edit count up ? 173.66.63.102 (talk) 02:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * listal.com is not a reliable source. Click on that link to see what makes a source reliable.  Unless you can cite a reliable source, you cannot introduce claims concerning personal, biographical information such as birth names.  You are correct that you cannot cite what you heard, though you may be able to cite a link to a BBC article if it supports the claim. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:50, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm General Ization. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person   on Layla Kayleigh, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source, so I removed it. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   02:51, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * If this is a shared IP address, and you did not make the edits, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant notices.

The information WAS ALREADY IN THE ARTICLE. All I did was add it to the inbox. PLease read the article. If you do not like the source help out and add one that you do like. 173.66.63.102 (talk) 19:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Independent broker finnCap?
You commented about the "independent broker finnCap". I believe that finnCap was the market-maker on the IPO of The People's Operator (TPOP), which therefore would not make it "independent" in this case. Please revise your edit. - 2601:42:C100:9D83:6C1D:ECF5:ACD:1E2A (talk) 03:06, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Categories
Sure, dear child. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pureromblomanon (talk • contribs) 03:47, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Alt account?
is an alt account? — Berean Hunter   (talk)  00:30, 9 November 2015 (UTC) — Berean Hunter   (talk)  01:10, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope. I actually worried that someone would think that, though. I've been called a sock by a vandal, though -- does that count? GABHello! 00:32, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Nope, we find ourselves editing the same articles fairly frequently, but we are two different editors. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   00:35, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There's actually an editor named, but they're a sock of someone else. GABHello! 00:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It makes for a humorous sequence of events on Hedy Lamarr then. Confuse the hell out of new editors...and a few established ones too, I think. :)
 * Ah, I see. GABHello! 01:18, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Teleperformance
I'm from Teleperformance global marketing, and just us can apply posts. if you would like to post something, please contact us. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karolkarol74 (talk • contribs) 12:25, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * As an employee of Teleperformance, you should not be editing this article at all. See Conflict of interest.   <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:52, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I AM the translator!
Good Day,

First let's maintain a professional and peaceful decorum here shall we? Your "attack" is not received, but if you are ASKING how I know that Priscilla Bechtinger IS and has always been THE ONLY translator for Paulo Coelho's book, "The Alchemist" it's because I have FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE! There are several names mentioned on the internet but only Priscilla Bechtinger worked with Paulo, directly and with a company based in Miami at the time, on the FIRST English translation of the book, from cover to cover. Though there was a contract with a promised amount of money agreed to for the translation, including a stipulation of being named in the book, neither happened! Priscilla Bechtinger translated the book. PERIOD. Paulo Coelho knows it and if you have an issue with it, ask him who he worked with at the time! Ask him about the "Igresia Universal" and the other TWO books that Priscilla also translated for them without pay! I don't know who you are but just because you've found more unfounded info "out there on the web" does not mean that it's credible nor that you have ANY authority whatsoever to be monitoring this information. It is not "vandalism" as you so rudely stated! If YOU persist on removing the CORRECT name, then I believe you are the one that could be in hot water with someone perhaps, because THE TRUTH my friend, is simply FACT. "Ms Costa" did not translate the introduction as was on Wikipedia, neither did the two men you mentioned in your note! THEY are not Brazilian and this translation required the bicultural, bilingual abilities of the translator which Priscilla is both. Just ask Paulo! Oh, maybe you don't know him, have never met? I'll challenge you as far as you want to go, but take the hostility and anger out of it ok? The truth will always prevail. Kind Regards. Iamthetruetranslator (talk) 20:41, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * My message to you was not an "attack", it was a clear warning after you repeatedly and persistently violated Wikipedia policies. Wikipedia is not built on "first hand knowledge", which is called original research here; it is based on citations of reliable, independent sources. Your repeated insertion of what you claim to be "first hand knowledge" is a violation of Wikipedia's policies concerning verifiability if it cannot be reliably sourced.  As stated, please do not continue to make this change without citing a reliable source; if you do, you are likely to be blocked from editing. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   20:56, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, since I sense that you have not actually clicked on any of the links to Wikipedia policies I have linked above and in the message on your Talk page and read them, I will reproduce a portion of one of them here, concerning verifiability: "Wikipedia does not publish original research. Its content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors. Even if you're sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it. ... All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. Please remove contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced immediately." <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   21:09, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Shia LeBoeuf
The fact that the original requester did not cite one or more reliable sources does not mean that the request is a BLP violation. If you can find reliable sources, as I did, that support the information, then it is not defamatory, even if negative. Once I added the reliable source, your removal of both the original request and my response to it could not be justified by BLP policy. Whether or not it belongs in the article is a separate issue, as I stated in my response, and I am not so sure it does. But you should not be hasty to declare unsourced edit requests on Talk pages to be BLP violations. A little effort is required on your part before you revert others' edits. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   15:23, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Note, by the way, that I did not say a reliable source was properly cited; I said it was readily citable (which is to say a source can be – and was – found by anyone with a minimum of effort).

As for, I'm not sure what your (apparent) problem with me is, but your Talk page is intended for communicating with you about your edits, as I was doing. I can't guarantee I won't use it again if need be. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   15:35, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

MH 17
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/11/mh17-crash-report-release-closure-ukraine-evidence-russia — Preceding unsigned comment added by ETheman (talk • contribs) 17:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes. However, with this edit you changed the title of a Wall Street Journal article published last August to something that doesn't appear at the WSJ link based on something you saw in an article at a different source and published today.  We don't "amend" the titles of articles at our sources to fit later developments.   Please always sign your edits on any Talk page by typing four tildes ( ~ ) after your comments.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:18, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

Overly specific
What the hell does "overly specific category" mean in your book? Thebuck093 (talk) 04:20, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I should think my summary is pretty much self-explanatory. A category that is unlikely to have more than one or two members is overly specific, and does not serve any particularly useful purpose. See WP:SMALLCAT.  I have instead added Category:American prison television series, a far more useful categorization.  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   04:31, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Marlboro high School
Hello there I do not use Wikipedia much but I was looking up info on the school I go to and I came across the Wikipedia page on my school. I thought I should update it so I did ( I changed the principle from Roseanne Judan-Collins to mr Rick Denton but later on I saw that you changed it . Oh and the thing about mersa was an accident I mention to send it to a friend that was asking me Questions but I must have hit paste while I was editing the page !:) I was wondering if you can explain to me if I did something wrong. I hope I'm not posting this in the wrong place if I am I am terribly sorry! But if I see you change the webpage again I will respect that and leave it alone:) you have a lot more experience with this I see . No hard feelings just trying to help. --2604:2000:24C7:9500:FD30:8266:1AB5:8446 (talk) 01:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)A Student that goes to Marlboro high school

Lokraj Party History
Sir, I am a student of The Panjab University Chandigarh. I was searching about Lokraj Party as my grandfather Shri Muni Lal Verma was a member of it. In your page it is given that Shri Thakur Singh Negi led the party. However in the book, World Affairs and Thakur Singh Negi, it is given that he was a part of the Janta Party. Could you please clarify this and also tell me who the founder of the Lokraj Party was? Thanking you Ajaitaj Singh Thakur 14.139.246.30 (talk) 21:44, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * The article Lok Raj Party Himachal Pradesh is not "my" article, and I did not write it. My involvement with it was to revert (undo) a vandalism of it in June 2014.  The article is also lacking citations of any reliable sources, so I would not be overly concerned that what it says conflicts with the book you cite.  There is a good chance that your book is correct and the article is incorrect. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   23:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Soap
Although I assume you made a typo in the edit summary, I thank you for your reversion of my edit to Soap. I will research it more and come back later hopefully with more information. I actually agree with you while at the same time saying my edit was good; we just need more information to resolve the conflict. Good day, — Soap — 19:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the year in my summary was a typo. Your edit may be good, but if based solely on what appears in the article, it could just as easily be a flawed assumption. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   19:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Help with a living biography
Good day, I am an end user seeking help to revise a living biography - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_F._Amos I am just an end user and a year+ ago I attempted to remove some sections of this page and you revered them (which i fully understand why now). However, after some educating and enough time, I would like to garner support to revise this webpage. I have added my thoughts to the Talk page of the Living Biography but fear it is not paid attention to closely. The revision would be based on the following Wikipedia standard to begin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Due_and_undue_weigh. I am sure there other standards this page is not meeting either. I dont know how to proceed but want to garner support to completely remove three sections of the living biography without upsetting people. Can you please see my Talk comments and share your thoughts on a way to proceed? thank you for your help. Usa usa 123 (talk) 14:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC) USA USA 123
 * I have added a template at the top of the article to call other editors' attention to your proposal.  Personally, I have no opinion on the question, except that I don't think your comments on the Talk page adequately describe exactly what content you propose to remove and why you feel the content violates WP:UNDUE.  I encourage you to go into more detail there. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   14:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help. I updated my thoughts on the talk page of the living biography as you suggested and it has been a few weeks without any discussion. Is there any reason to believe that I cannot remove some of the sections now or do you have suggestions on what other avenues I should take to garner support or better yet, prevent an edit war? Thank you, Usa usa 123 (talk) 15:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)Usa usa 123Usa usa 123 (talk) 15:49, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to take any position on whether your arguments on the Talk page actually justify removing the content from James F. Amos. However, I encourage you to read WP:BRD.  Sometimes it is necessary to make a change, even understanding that it may get reverted, to prompt other editors to discuss a perceived need for the change on the Talk page. Your having laid out your arguments there in advance will help. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   20:38, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Cotton Gin patent number change
I understand your reasoning on reverting my change and I realize I should have changed the site when I did to conform with my change. The picture does indeed say 72X but the government patent site

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=X000072.PN.&OS=PN/X000072&RS=PN/X000072

has X72. Is this good reason for change? (I'm sorry for any confusion, I'm a new editor)

Noname5589 (talk) 17:10, 26 October 2015 (UTC) 10/26/15


 * Seems pretty clear that the patent when first awarded was numbered "72X". I suspect the PTO renumbered it to "X72" at some point to conform with a later numbering scheme.  I'd propose that the existing content be retained but that content be added to state that it now appears as "X72" in the PTO's online database, without speculating as to why (unless you can find a citation that explains it). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   17:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Dear Pricey
Hi, I was looking at Dear Pricey's edit history, and I saw that you had tagged it for speedy deletion, then reverted yourself. I also saw that this happened within just a few minutes of the article's creation, and that might be the only reason you removed the tag. However, another editor has since tagged the article for speedy deletion again. If you don't believe the article should be deleted, you might want to have another look at the article. (Personally I think the article probably does fail the significance test, but I like to give articles every chance I can.) Thanks for all your contributions to Wikipedia, and happy editing! — GrammarFascist  contribs talk 02:35, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I saw and read your helpful message to the article's creator. As I recall, I thought after a very rudimentary search there might be enough there to establish notability, so I withdrew my speedy del thinking it was too hasty.  But I agree that after several weeks having passed, it needs more now to justify its retention. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   02:38, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

You're not even giving me a chance to link the sources to Dear Pricey page. This page was doing very fine for a month now. At least help me understand what better news coverage/links I should cite, just don't remove my article. If you can please guide me on how to make it better so it can stay. Thank You AlexWit (talk) 12:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)AlexWit 10/27/2015


 * gave you very good advice here (which you deleted, seemingly without acknowledgement).  You are welcome to improve the article while the AfD discussion is ongoing, and those improvements may be the key to whether or not the article is retained.  The point was that after a month, the article needed better and more independent, reliable sources in order to establish notability (and had not been edited extensively to provide them since it was created on September 26). <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   12:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * You are right, advice was given to me on creating a better article for Dear Pricey. You guys are doing a great job here on Wikipedia. I've been following this artist career and really wanted the best for him. I knew Wikipedia would have been the best look for his career the more people found about about him. Honestly I apologize about this whole thing. I've personally read "Wikipedia:Notability (music)" and have a full understanding of why my article was hit with the speedy deletion. You're doing the best you can to keep these guidelines in tact. I've looked for the best sources I can and updated them but unfortunately Dear Pricey does not meet these standards yet. I'll just wait until I can gather better sources and try again in the future. You can go ahead and delete the article. Appreciate the others for trying to help. Have a great day! - AlexWit 10/27/2015 AlexWit (talk) 14:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Appreciate your understanding. Since there is now an AfD discussion concerning the article, could you submit your comments there?  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   14:55, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

WP:LEAD
According to WP:LEAD: "The lead section should briefly summarize the most important points covered in an article in such a way that it can stand on its own as a concise version of the article." So, the fact that something appears in both the article's body and in the Lead is fine, as long as the items in the Lead are "the most important points". With respect to Ziegler, are you saying that her appearance on the Time magazine list is not of particular importance? It seems to me that it is, because Time is the leading US news magazine. Come to think of it, I'll copy this to the article's Talk page in case you want to discuss it further. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Her appearance on the list is a consequence of the things she is notable for, not something she is notable for. So, yes, I would maintain this does not belong in the lead, and certainly not as identical content (wikilinks, citations and all) to the content that appears in the body. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   21:10, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

The seagull
The Seagull by Anton Chekhov in a new version by Torben Betts Regents park Open Air theatre, London first performance 19 June 2015

Cast Nina. Sabrina Bartlett Natasha. Tara D'Arquian Irina. Janie Dee Masha. Lisa Diveney Yakov. Tom Greaves Simon. Colin Hoult Ilia. Fraser James Paulina. Lisa Palfrey Peter. Ian Redford Boris. Alex Robertson Konstantin     Matthew Tennyson Eugene. Danny Webb

Director. Matthew Dunster Designer. Jon Bausor Movement        Charlotte Broom Lighting Designer. Philip Gladwell Sound Designer. Christopher Shutt Casting Directors. Julia Horan and Lotte Hines Voice and text Coach. Janis Price Associate Designer. Rebecca browser Costume Designer. Laura hunt Props Supervisor. Taylor & Foley Props

Production Manager. Andy Beardmore Company Stage Manager. Emma Banwell- knight Deputy Stage Manager. Jenny Grand Assistant Stage Manager. Megan Kearny

Literal translation. Helen Rappaport

Would you mind putting the cast and production crew of Regents park open Air Theatre's 2015 production of The Seagull into Wikipedia properly and in detail. On November 6 th 2015, award-winning actress Janie Dee who played Irina Akadina in the critically acclaimed production at Regents park, has been invited to take a Masterclass of Torben Bett's translation of the Seagull  at The Theatre Royal, Haymarket.

was reviewed very favourably by many of the national papers and is likely to have an international tour too. Some of the cast have been nominated for future awards for,their performances — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.147.42 (talk) 20:45, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Talk page
Leave the user's talk page alone please. They can remove block messages if they wish. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 19:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I've heard mixed opinions on this. Have given up on reverting their edits to their Talk page, as clearly not a constructive use of my time, but my understanding was that while blocked they were in fact not permitted to remove warnings that immediately preceded the block. Could you clarify?  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   19:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * WP:BLANKING is the guideline. They cannot remove declined unblock requests while blocked but can remove block messages. I know this seems inconsistent but I'm guessing "The removal of material from a user page is normally taken to mean that the user has read and is aware of its contents" plays a part here. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 19:31, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Mother Gota
I am concerned that this user appears to have made a series of trivial edits in order to achieve WP:AUTOCONFIRMED status. Elizium23 (talk) 21:32, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, I've been keeping my eye on them for that very reason. (Hence my over-hasty revert a few minutes ago.)  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   21:34, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Your revert of my warnign on User talk:Mother Gota was unwarranted, particylarly since reverting without leaving an edit summary is only valid if the edit was vandalism. Teh cited ref specificly refrs to 125 wars, not the 168 that other Gota claimed in his or her edit. My undo of the edit (and note that it was an undo with an explanation, not a revert for vandalism) was warranted, and my warning was also warranted. Be careful with your revert button please. Meters (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It was as easy to correct the content you reverted (as I have done) as it was to revert it, especially since your reversion left the source without the content it supported. You are right that I should have included a summary, and for that I apologize. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   21:48, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I had intended to restore a corrected version shortly, but I was having trouble initially finding the "most successful" part in the source. Meters (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Zoe Saldana
Where is the source FOR the name change ? That is why I deleted. She made news saying he took her name so she may not aave taken his name! 173.66.63.102 (talk) 21:27, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
 * See . "We hyphened, I'm Saldana-Perego and he's Perego-Saldana," continued the mother of two of her and her hubby's last names." <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   21:49, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Dominican Republic
Please stop adding a template to my Talk page. First of all, one revert, even if ill-advised, is NOT disruptive editing, much less the basis for a level 3 warning. See WP:DISRUPT for what is. Second, I am permitted to remove any warning, including yours, from my Talk page (as is any unblocked user). The assumption is that the removal of the warning shows that it was read by the user, so there is no need to retain it on the page. Your restoration of the warning is actually itself disruptive. Third, whether or not "0.1% Yellow" was the terminology used in the DR census of 1960, it was non-encyclopedic and potentially insulting to an entire ethnic population without a link to explain its meaning (that link is now in place, hence we have no further argument). To illustrate, there are many documents from the US Civil War era that use the "n-word'" to refer to the African slave (and freemen) population, but that does not mean we can or should use the word here, even in articles about that era, to refer to that population. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization  Talk   20:13, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
 * And I note that another editor has changed "0.1% Yellow" to "0.1% Asian (eastern descent)", presumably to avoid the same potential for misunderstanding and offense. 20:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

John Lasseter article
Hi!

I am new to Wikipedia. I think the article on John Lasseter is far too long, given that he is relatively non-notable. Would it not be reasonable to move back to a shorter version, like my edit attempted?

--2001:4898:80E8:F:0:0:0:168 (talk) 23:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Lasseter is quite notable. GABHello! 23:57, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * First, as GAB indicates, the subject is highly notable; this should be obvious by looking at the article and at the many references that support its content. Second, no, it is never reasonable to remove 95% of the properly cited content of any article without discussing such a drastic change on the article's Talk page first to obtain the consensus of other editors (and generally only if you can demonstrate that the content is fully presented in some other article or articles). Because you think it is far too long is not an adequate reason to remove any content from Wikipedia. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
 * By the way, your other edits, including, are worrisome. If not for them, I was about to suggest that you slow down as an apparent new editor and learn about Wikipedia policies and practices before executing such bold edits, but your edits so far make me think a sockpuppet investigation may be warranted.  Care to offer an explanation for them?  <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;"> General Ization   Talk   00:07, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Priya Munasinghe
Please read the posting before nominating it for deletion. While you may not be familiar with this person, he is well known in India and Sri Lanka. 12 sources have been cited and you may check them by googling yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan7750 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

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