User talk:Genevieve2/Archive 1

Salut Misshockey
Content de t'avoir revue sur ma page de discussion. Ne t'inquiètes pas, je ne t'ai jamais prise pour une mauvaise personne, j'ai été simplement surpris de ta réaction suite à mon message. Je ne l'ai toujours pas compris... j'ai probablement été maladroit, c'est possible. En fait, le seul but que j'avais à ce moment-là était d'essayer de te faire comprendre une partie du fonctionnement de wikipedia (fr) et te "consoler" en t'envoyant un message amical. Je n'ai en aucun cas voulu juger de ton travail (en fait, si je devais le juger, je dirais qu'il est bon et va nous manquer) et je n'ai d'ailleurs pas voté sur la demande de suppression en question. En résumé, je suis :
 * content que tu m'aies réécrit
 * absolument pas fâché
 * désolé de t'avoir blessée sans le vouloir
 * triste que tu ne sois plus parmi nous

Amicalement --Supertoff (talk) 21:30, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Pour info, la demande de blocage te concernant a été finalement refusée sur wiki.fr. Même si tu ne contribues plus là-bas, je pense que ça te fera toujours plaisir de le savoir. Amicalement, --Supertoff (talk) 08:15, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

'''Prend soin de toi. ''' Que ce temps de l'hiver puisse t'apporter bonheur et sérénité.

Et comme le dit une belle chanson de ton pays,  D. réunit ceux qui s'aiment...] --Geneviève (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Genevieve2/sandbox01


A tag has been placed on Genevieve2/sandbox01 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion, or "db", tag; if no such tag exists, then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hang-on tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you.  Acroterion  (talk)  02:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Sorry it's an error of my part. --Geneviève (talk) 02:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, I see that another editor has moved it to your sandbox for you to develop. Sorry to answer in English: I read French well, but write French slowly and poorly. I can, however, help with proofreading translated text. I'm not very familiar with Québécois French, but there are a few editors here who are. Welcome to the English wiki! Amicalement,   Acroterion  (talk)  02:52, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Acroterion for your kindness. I am going to read all the texts for Beginner. Do you have many snow at your home. In Montréal today we had snow and rain. Amicalement enjoy --Geneviève (talk) 03:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)


 * There was a little snow here today (West Virginia/Virginia/Maryland), not much. By the way, it's "much snow" - snow is almost always singular in English.  Acroterion  (talk)  03:25, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Adoption request
Hello there, Genevieve2! I'm Netalarm and I've been around on Wikipedia for quite some time now. It appears that you've indicated that you want to be adopted on your user page. While you can wait for an adopter to come forward and offer to adopt you, I would highly recommend that you also actively seek an adopter. From the cases I've seen, I've noticed that it is often much faster if the adoptee also actively participates in the matching process.

When choosing an adopter (click here for a list), there are a few things you'll want to check. First of all, you'll want to check if they are available. The column with the label "Adoption status" will tell you if they are able to accept more adoptees. You may also want to choose an adopter that has similar interests, which are indicated in the "Interests" column, though it is not required you do so. Once you have found an adopter you want, you may message them on their talk page and ask to be adopted. If you have any questions about this process (or about Wikipedia in general), feel free to message me on my talk page.

Click here to view a full list of adopters

Once again, welcome to Wikipedia! Netalarm talk 02:00, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Adopt a user
Salut, ma fancaise n'est pas meuiller mais j'essaie de temps a autre. but if you need me to switch to french i can. Anyway ill write in English for right now, I can wiki-adopt if thats what you want. I can not garantee fast responses but i usually get back to people within a day (not including the holiday seasons ;). So if you want, where would you like to begin? Improve a page? create a page? Understand a policy fast? Feedback on past edits? basically adoption is here to tailor to what you want to improve as an editor on wikipedia.

Part of the scary thing with starting on wikipedia is that people get intimidated by all the rules and pages to read when they start. They are important to follow and in the event of a conflict are very helpful, but i think the key points to remember on wikipedia is that it runs by consensus among editors, reliable referencing, and common sense.

Its great to see you have an interest in woman's hockey it needs contributors for sure! There are alot of pages that can be developed (you know of those) and created! I do find writing an article (any article, not just hockey, Though the work on Dora Wasserman seems to be progressing nicely) from scratch a good way to start at wikipedia and learn the ropes fast, plus if done correctly it can get on the main page for others to read; its a great way to get traffic to the page and expand it, and in the case of Women's hockey allow others to see what its all about!(can explain more about writing a new article if you are interested), Bonne chance! Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:40, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you darling Ottawafourever for your answer. I wrote a new page on a leader of my community in Montreal User:Genevieve2/sandbox01. If you want make the corrections. My written English is not perfect. I asked the Jewish project but nobody has still answered to me. Pass a good afternoon --Geneviève (talk) 16:58, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Some notes
Bonjour (excusez mon français), je vais certainement corriger la grammaire de l'article ci-dessus. Je vais aussi prendre quelques notes pour les corrections sur sa page de discussion ici, User talk:Genevieve2/sandbox01. Je vais faire quelques suggestions pour la fixation de l'article, S'il vous plaît ne pense pas à moi d'être trop critique. Il ya deux façons de créer un nouvel article. Le premier, où l'article est seulement quelques lignes, l'autre où ses pleinement développé et long terme. Lorsque ses quelques lignes, il est plus facile de montrer notabilité de la personne pour éviter la suppression. Après l'expansion, il est simple. J'ai fait une note aider quelques-dessous duquel vous devriez trouver utile pour votre plus des modifications récentes. Bonne chance. Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Watch Lists
I don’t know if you know about these, but they save a lot of time. Essentially a watch list allows you to see if a page was edited since the last time you worked on it. All you do is look at the article page and click the star on the top (see images); To view your watchlist, on the top of the screen next to your username will appear ‘my watchlist’ try it out if you haven’t :)

Referencing BLPS
BLPS are Biographies of Living Persons. A lot of acronyms get used on wiki. If you see any just type in the search bar WP: (then whatever the acronym is), it should tell you what they are talking about. For a few of the articles you’ve been working on recently Ive noticed that some of the refs seem to be like they are personal communications? While some reference is better than no reference, you need to be very careful with these. If a reference appears like original research its likely to be removed. Anything unreferenced in an article can be removed. Original research is basically anything that comes from source which is an unpublished media which would not be assessable to anyone else (my own rough definition of it). The types of referencing you want is something that is known to tell the truth (For example; Montreal gazette if you belive that is considered reliable, so are local newspapers...), and after truth, it needs to be something that anyone in a library or on the internet can pick up and read themselves. Above all any biography article on a living person needs to source every claim made and should not use opinions in the article.

Article Deletions
Whle checking a bit of your recent article work, Sandy Eisenberg Sasso came up; Your on the right path for removing the proposed deletion tag on Sandy Eisenberg Sasso to prevent deletion, BUT what you need to keep in mind that if your edits did not address the concern of the person who nominated the article it may be brought to WP:AFD. Afd is Articles For Deletion, and is a consensus measure for determining if a page should be deleted, or saved in some form with greater discussion. If a page you worked significantly is brought here someone should notify you. People will cite policy at the afd (generally they’ll say the person is not notable because there are no references etc….). In this case you can respond to them and clearly say why you think it the article is notable and give your point of view (ie references from reliable sources saying they are-we call these secondary sourcing here). Ive linked a previous typical AFD discussion here that saved an article from deletion; [] and an AFD of what not to do here; []. Im guilty in that one especially for the original research I was using! You dont have to understand all the terms in these yet, just get a grasp for how people will communicate in these things.

Hope all this helps, sorry for putting so much text here, but it beats getting frustrated down the road, feel free to ask any questions if you need!! Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:02, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever , Thank you for your advice, critiques and opinion. Wikipedia is a long apprenticeship for me. I am going to study everything. I shall be back on Wikipedia, Monday because this evening there is Sabbath for Jews. Then there is a hockey this we: Boston Ladies vs Montreal Stars at Etienne-Desmarteau arena. Very important match in CWHL. Be that can I put this banner on my page ? please amitiés et gentillesse, votre français est très bien, pass a good week-end with your family --Geneviève (talk) 13:48, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * More then welcome to add the userbox. I don’t mind.
 * Btw the Montreal Stars article (And other CWHL articles) could use digital photos (players, goal celebrations), If they are taken by yourself the copy rights are not such a big issue for the articles. If you ever get the opportunity in the future that would be a fantastic addition! Enjoy the weekend Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Montreal Stars
Canadian Women's Hockey League season 2010-2011: Today a big victory for my love hockey team Montreal Stars 10- 2 Boston Ladies with 300 supporters in Étienne Desmarteau Arena. I discussed with 4 fans of Boston. They made the journey for the we. Bravo à elles. I have many photos (but my camera is very cheap: a little compact HP 717 ) I have the program of this game, I will make next week, on the wikipedia page of Montreal Stars, the new roster ( and also the roster for Boston Ladies in the page wiki's Boston Ladies ). Tomorrow afternoon, next game at Ed Meagher Arena in Concordia University: Montreal Stars vs Boston Ladies --Geneviève (talk) 01:49, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Today, Sunday first defeat of the season for Montreal Stars: Boston 3-2 Montreal with only 150 supporters in Ed Meagher (Concordia University) a television's report (in French) Anonymat quasi complet. Next games at montreal: January 8 and 9, 2011. --Geneviève (talk) 00:26, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * i have some programs somewhere for the clarkson cup final they won, but they have gotten buried. anyway so long as a picture is clear in the absence of anything else it should help. sad to hear about the loss though. I wonder if theres a source on the record for longest win streaks in the cwhl? Ill be away mostly from the computer over the next week any urgent queries ill answer though, until then cheers :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Andres Spokoiny
The doubt: I wonder: he is Notability or not for Wikipedia ??? I make a research on Google. Google give no link towards daily papers (English and French Quebecois) of Canada. the notability of   Andres Spokoiny User:Genevieve2/sandbox01    seems limited to the differents Jewish newspapers and in Jewish communauty of Montreal (71,000 jews persons in montreal - last Canadian census of 2006). Maybe It would be more pertinent to join my project for Spokoiny into the page on the Jewish federation of Montreal Federation CJA. It will could give this: User:Genevieve2/sandbox04

your opinion and your support, avec amitié please.--Geneviève (talk) 11:52, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Today, one opinion on discussion WikiProject Judaism: '':Welcome to English Wikipedia and WP Judaism! If Spokoiny has a personal interview in the Canadian Jewish News and multiple articles about him, my own opinion is that he is notable. Jewish Canadian newspapers count towards the notability requirement. -- La comadreja  formerly AFriedman  RESEARCH   (talk) 19:28, 19 December 2010 (UTC)''
 * I think he will be able to show notability, but if all sources are coming from one area releated to him in subject, his article might be taken to AFD (articles for deletion). The article needs to reinforce what makes him notable. I think it pretty much does but the article needs something that 'hammers it down' that hes notable, ie something that explicitly says this. Normally notablility as the executive director of the Federation CJA should be sufficent, but an outside reader may question the notability of Federation CJA since its tagged for notability. So some might question notability on that. (One other (easier) method might be to improve that page (Federation CJA) and show that as notable). At that point the Spokoiny article makes a good case in its current form for notability. AFD / or any tagging is something we should avoid. Also if the article can be developed, why not prepare it in a state for dyk so it appears on the mainpage? DYK, is a process known as 'did you know' where articles are listed on the page with an interesting fact. This process does bring more scruitinty to an article due to the increased traffic the article receives. Hope this makes sense but one goal of posting a new article should be not to have any questionable notabilities and to have people read the article. Going through an AFD is not something fun and can be a death nail in any article re-development if it gets consensus for deletion by afd. Bonne chance and talk soon Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:09, 20 December 2010 (UTC)


 * notes rapides; je vous remercie beaucoup pour les mots aimables sur ma page. J'espère que décembre est un bon mois pour vous aussi. Je suis toujours l'espoir de sortir de l'Europe et de retour au Canada pour ma famille et les vacances, mais la neige est tres mauvaise pour le voyage...donc le wiki;

The Federation CJA is in much better shape than before; just a few quick things. I like the linkage you made to Spokoiny in the page, thats great. A few things to watch out for though, when removing a tag on the top of an article: its best to either make a note that its removed in the edit summary and that the concern should be addressed or make a note on the talk page of the article. Kind of invites other users to see if they agree with the changes. Final two things the history section of the Federation CJA seems to be where the notability could be very strong. do you have access to old sources that can reference the section better about the cja's role? there seems to be alot of reallly interesting history there that the reader would like to follow up on and should be referenced in the section. Also the introduction may not be in line with the manual of style. Are the questions at the top suppose to be there in that form? Finally when doing refs to other wiki pages, you cant actually reference another wikipedia page as a reliable reference, but you can link it within the text. What i mean is typing this text will show up appears as this text will show up, but clicking on the link will send you to the federation cja page. this is a nice trick to link to other pages instead of referencing another wikipedia page when it seems out of place. But a reference outside of wikipedia is always perferred. hope this makes sense i can elaborate if youd like. As always alot to take in; but your catching on really quickly!! Which is great to see :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:34, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you darling Ottawafourever . I puts 2 references ( Two wiki pages in the section See also:) for the Montreal history's jews. And also I put a long comment in the page of discussion for page Federation CJA. For differents opinions, I write a new discussion on Wikiproject Judaism and i put yours interventions there. Bon retour au Canada, soyez prudent. --Geneviève (talk) 19:39, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Userspace drafts
Bon Matin/Good morning, for each of the sandboxes you created for article work, youll need to add this template at the top of the page which can be added by typing. This helps prevent the page from getting picked up on google searches etc until its ready. For any categories you'll need to add this text around them so the sandboxes dont get cateogorized category. ill do all this for you on the spoinky article so you'll see what i mean remember a userspace draft cant be used forever, but so long as your working on it no one should give you too many troubles, bonne chance Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

CJA
I have reverted this series of edits to Federation CJA as they do no comply with Wikipedia's policies on neutrality and promotion. Also, all of the sources you added were primary sources, published by Federation CJA themselves. Please do not use Wikipedia to promote an organization, no matter how worthy the organization may be. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:09, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

 Hello WikiDan. a Big deception for me. Thank you, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 14:25, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Genevieve, I don't believe I understand the use of the word "deception" in this context. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:52, 22 December 2010 (UTC) Please reply here; I'll watch this page for your reply.

Sorry WikiDan for my confusion, I will said Disappointment because in french,The word writes is déception  ou être déçue. It is a normal human emotion after having to work on these two pages ( Federation CJA and Andres Spokoiny ). I thank you, je vous remercie, אני תודה --Geneviève (talk) 15:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Good morning, Didnt know you launched the pages just yet. Anyway, it happens on wikipedia alot that we will put hours into an series of edits and that they get reverted by another editor. Its a nautural process. Remember Rome was not built in a day! The intention though is whats important, and thats to improve the page. In this case I think WikiDan did this primarily because of the impression he had when reading the article and that the majority of the edits seemed to be from primary sources. (See Reliable_sources). The way you've handled it is ok, its best to get a dialogue going with the editor; however remember this dialogue at this stage should be between you and him (or taken to the articles talk page).


 * Nothing is lost on wikipedia, every edit you make is in the page history. Remember that while its good to declare any level of interests you have with a subject its improtant to realize that on wikipedia if something looks like a conflict of interest its likely to be reverted. I think in WikiDan's case (And i cant speak for him, Im sure he'll elaborate if asked) He percieved the tone of the article to be promotional to the the organization (have a look at Org). In this case you have to be very careful of your edits not coming off as promotional. Dont worry too much though, keep improving the page, use more secondary sourcing, and where none other exists use primary (if you have too). As for conflicts of interest; I too occasiuonally get accused of this on pages to do with Ottawa. You just need to be more neutral with your edits. Dont feel too bad when your edits get reverted it happens to us all. As well for words getting mixed up, I have many stories of where my french when translated was mistaken for something else, happens to all of us. Also remember your going at a faster rate of development than is traditionally done with new wiki editors. I myself didnt write my first article until a year into editing. But not to worry so long as your learning your doing great Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome...

Hello, Genevieve2, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like this place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
 * Introduction
 * The five pillars of Wikipedia
 * How to edit a page
 * Help
 * How to write a great article
 * Manual of Style

Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place  on your talk page and ask your question there. Kudpung Again, welcome! Kudpung (talk) 12:11, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Merge proposal
I have proposed that Andres Spokoiny be merged with Federation CJA. Please join the discussion on Talk:Andres Spokoiny. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you WikiDan for your contribution . But now after my disappointement, I have no opinion. I wrote a little note in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism for your proposition. Maybe can be other Jews (of Montreal or Toronto) will give their opinions. Je vous remercie pour votre travail, Thank you for your work in Wikipedia, אני תודה --Geneviève (talk) 19:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar template
The Jews and Judaism sidebar template is intended to be a navigational box through the major articles on Judaism. It is not intended to be placed on every article about every Jew on Wikipedia. Basically, if the template contains a link to the article, then the article should employ the template. If the template does not contain a link to the article, then the article should not include the template. Please refrain from including the template on every article about Jewish personalities that you create. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)



'''Thanks WikiDan. Forgive my error '''. Furthermore I am a new wikipedia member here ( only 13 days on English Wikipedia ), Thank you for your understanding. Forgive all my errors. Because I am new member Inexperience and a very young women. Je vous remercie de votre empathie humaine--Geneviève (talk) 02:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Just some help
Hi Genevieve2. Thanks for the message. I know it's a bit soon to expect you to have read all the stuff I linked in my welcome above, but don't delay too long. One help page you should take a look at very quickly when you get a moment is WP:TPG, it tells you how to get the best out of it, how to correctly indent and format your answers, and what you can and cannot include on it, and what language you should use on it. Don't take too much notice of the blunt tones people use here - some seem to like doing this, some just can't be friendly if they try. Just ignore them, and assume good faith on their part. Their messages are generally helpful but mostly don't need a reply. You'll probably never need to use the 'help me' tag, plenty of people know you for your work and you can ask them, or me, for help directly on our talk pages. Happy holidays! We work through in Thailand. --Kudpung (talk) 03:44, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for all yours advices Kudpung. I am going to study the texts of Wikipedia today before Shabbat. Je vous remercie pour votre gentillesse. תודה על העצה שלך (Translation in English: thank you for your work) and Shabbat Shalom --Geneviève (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Sandy Eisenberg Sasso
Shalom et bon soir. The person who nominated Sandy Eisenberg Sasso for deletion has withdrawn his nomination, which means the article is no longer at risk of being deleted. Thank you for expanding the article and bringing it—and Rabbi Sasso—to the attention of so many people. Have a happy new year. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:13, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Boston Blades
Bonjour Genevieve2. I apologize that I did not get back to you sooner. It is outstanding that you got to see the Boston Blades. Angela Ruggiero is one of my favourites. Did you get any autographs? I live in Orleans, Ontario and was hoping that Ottawa would have had a team this year. I admire your hard work on the site and believe you will be a great asset for the site. I hope we can become friends. All the best for the New Year. Maple Leaf (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar
Yay, you got a barnstar, felicitations!, off to a great start ;) Ottawa4ever (talk) 21:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Annie Guay
Bonjour Genevieve. Ca m'a fait plaisir de vous aidez. Vous être gentil et intelligente. J'ai crée une page sur Annie Guay sur le site icehockeywikia la semaine passée. http://icehockey.wikia.com/wiki/Annie_Guay J'écrit sur le hockey feminin sur les deux sites. J'espére que vous avez l'opportunité de la recontrer. Maple Leaf (talk) 23:27, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Photo Uploads
Salut Genevieve, Creating a user page at commons is fine, i have one as well;. When you upload photos to commons they can be used by all wiki projects, when they are uploaded here they are for wiki only. The process i do is merely upload a photo here on english wikipedia and typically someone else will move the photo to commons for me (if they want and the image meets certain guidelines See Moving files to the Commons). The choice is yours but commons and wikipedia itself have different image procedures, I would recommend uploading first on english wiki then transfering (if you want) to commons. Before doing anything though, familize yourself with Image use policy(with close attention to Image_use_policy) and Photographs of identifiable people. This is a lengthy read but it will describe what types of photos can and shouldnt be used. I dont think theres many issues with the photos you plan to take though (but they will likely need more info on the privacy issue depending on the type of photo you take). Images are not my strong area as I typically avoid taking pictures of living people, but mostly focus on buildings. But this information should be enough to get you moving in the right direction. When you think your ready take a look at Uploading images and thenproceed to upload at Special:Upload. Alot to take in....

When you created your commons account did you set up a global account(unified account)? If you didnt you still can, you can link your accounts, let me know if you need help with that. As for uploading the photos, The license i use typically for buildings is Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License- See for details on the licsense. A good example of photo licensing for people (what you appear to be trying to do) is at File:USA-Womens-Hockey-Olympics-5.jpg of Jenny Potter, The minnesota Whitecaps player (if you ever get a chance to see her play, do it ;) ). Let me know if this starts you off ok (or if you need more concise info), again images of living people arent my strong area. Will talk soon Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

 Dear Darling Ottawafourever, Thank you so much for all your advice. This evening I going to put some photos on Wikimedia Commons. It does not offend me that my photos are taken by the other persons on Wikipedia (French, English, Sweden, Finland...) on the contrary if it can make better know for Women's Hockey. My photos are common and poor quality but there is so much pleasure to give them for Wikipedia project. Prend soin de toi et bon dimanche avec votre famille--Geneviève (talk) 00:51, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Annes Photo looks good :) (not of poor quality in my opinion)., i moved it to the info box have a look to see if you think it works nicely there or needs to be bigger. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Sandbox 7
had a quick read of sand box 7 (still need to look further into it though...). But is there more details about the gallery? (Emet Gallery that is)., ie some notable exhibitions which the mainstream media has covered?., i think possibly that section might begin to help show more notability for the building. Cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 22:28, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

'''Yes it's an excellent idea. '''Thank you. Next week I am going to work on the text.--Geneviève (talk) 00:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Moving A page
Hey Genevieve, I thought Id make a quick post here. The article Women's Ice Hockey in Finland looks to be in good shape, but a very common issue when creating a new page from sand box is the cut and paste process so to be. What is the better procedure when creating a new page from work you've done in your Sandbox is to merely Move the sandbox to the main space with the desired title. have a Look at WP:MOVE for more details on this, its a useful read when doing this process. The reason this is important is it preserves your editing history on the article from the sandbox (old revisions, notes, and attributions are much harder to keep track of if you do the cut and paste process). Hope this makes sense. Message me if it doesnt, cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

 Thank Darling Ottafourever but I don't understand the text in English lanquage. It is same situation for me in the French text. The description page of that file isn't simple for me. Today I live the same difficulty to understand how to star a new page:Mid-Atlantic Women's Hockey League  Sorry this is very hard for a young beginner member but i believe it is very easy for experimented members. Thank for help me, merci de vouloir m'aider --Geneviève (talk) 19:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing is that its important for pages to preserve their edit history especially in the case where others have also worked on the page (in the case of the above article on finnish women's hockey, two other editors contributed on the sandbox- so moving the sandbox to the main space would be appropriate instead of a cut and paste). Moving a page is very simple, all you have to do is follow the pictures found on WP:Move ive reposted them here for your convience, just ignore the TW thingy there as thats not important and shouldnt show for you. As for WP:move theres alot of info there, its just for your reference. When page moves are completed, you can clean out the sandbox and feel free to re-use the sandbox for other things. Ive posted the edit history of a page that i performed a page-moved that i created . In that case 2 other editors also edited that sandbox before the page move was performed. Theres alot of tiny things to learn on wiki, dont feel overwhelmed, but youll catch them all in time. Theres really not much more to tell you beyond this- this is mostly just to inform you that this option exists, you can do the cut and paste procedure, but the best procedure is when a page in the sandbox is ready for mainspace, the move function, which you can use, is very helpful.Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC) Vector hidden move button.jpg option in the Vector skin appears when you move your mouse cursor over the small drop-down menu, shown here. (Other users may not have the "TW", which is the optional gadget, twinkle)- reposted from WP:move ]]



Non-free files in your user space
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 Hello Dashbot, thank for your work on Wikipedia, I see now my Contribution History --Geneviève (talk) 02:45, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi
Bonjour Genevieve. I see that you have done a lot of work. Your work on the Finland article was good and I like your attendance figures on the CWHL season page. I have expanded Annie Guay again. Hope my contribtions help. I found a great PDF on the Under 22 Women’s Program and found some great info on Annie and many other players. If you want me to email it to you, let me know at staffierister@gmail.com Maple Leaf (talk) 22:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your help . I meet Annie Saturday evening after the game Montreal-Burlington and there are some errors on the page User:Genevieve2/sandbox01. Annie would have play from 16 years to 22 years for the Canadian National Team Under-22. Furthermore I do not have to find the statistics for his first season with Montreal Stars (season 2008-09). Annie asked me to correct my page. Annie has to correct and phone me next week. Yes, you can send me your text pdf, my address is misssouris@live.ca

For page Women's Ice Hockey in Finland  It is a good beginning. I translated 2 Finnish texts with my new translation software. I have to try a contact in Finland or maybe with one person in Finnish Wikipedia to improve the new page. merci de vos bons conseils et amitié --Geneviève (talk) 02:54, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Finland article
Hi Genevieve. Thank you so much for your kind words. It brightened my day. You are a joy to work with and I am always glad to help you. I made some more additions to Annie Guay and the Finland article. Hope it helps. Je vous adore. Beaucoup de bisous Maple Leaf (talk) 21:17, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Great!!! Thank u so much!! I wrote a note in Finnish Wikipedia --Geneviève (talk) 00:21, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Sandbox 11
Ive restored the use of sanbox 11 for you. Basically what happened (which occurs automatically with a move); Is that sandbox11 re-directs to the new page of the Quebec hockey team. To re-use sandbox 11 again for other articles you just need to remove the re-direct line in the page access of User:Genevieve2/sandbox11. Its tricky though to do this since the page originally re-directs anyway. So to access the page that has a re-direct, click on the link as you would normally do, when your re-directed to the new page some small text will appear below the title indicating where the page was redirected from it would say 'redirected from ....' click on that and then you can remove the re-directed text in the page and re-use the sandbox. Its a bit complicated to describe in words, but essentiatlly ive done this for you for sandbox 11 so you can use it again for creating a different article. As for the other question, Im not sure i fully understand, but will give it some thought through the day. Cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Darling Ottawafourever, there isn't urgency for the page Women in Judaism. Today I would put one or two photos for my articles. Bonne journée --Geneviève (talk) 10:55, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * If im understanding the query on my talk right, i think this is what you want to do; WP:SMERGE. But ill have to dig a bit more for the correct solution. You might need to get an admin to do a history merge, or it might just be as simple as just noting the contributions in the edit history. Will post back later Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:11, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes Ottawafourever it very seems to complicate as laborer operation (and english is not my first language for all understand the operation). I am going to ask Kaldari who is an administrator in the feminist project.--Geneviève (talk) 20:10, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Standings
Hope all is well. I have corrected the standings to 2003–04 NWHL season. Did you get the St Lawrence PDFs I sent? Have a good week. Maple Leaf (talk) 12:28, 18 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Great!!! Thank u so much!! --Geneviève (talk) 12:45, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Re: Surprised and enchanted
Merci beaucoup. I usually focus more on international competition in women's ice hockey. Even though it was just a typo fix, thank you thank you for the comments. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 18:40, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

How to put the new paragraph in the page ???
It is considered acceptable to move material written by several people into an article without the full history if you list all of the contributors in the edit summary. Moving the material with full edit history is possible, but takes some work. Kaldari (talk) 20:52, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes but how? According to Ottawafourever is needed an administrator to make this addition. And I am not administrator. I shall not want to lose the corrections of the first text. Merci beaucoup pour votre aide, Thank for your help, תודה על העזרה שלך --Geneviève (talk) 15:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Ill be bold and paste what i think Kaldari is saying; In this case, go ahead and perform the cut and paste from sandbox to the new page, and in the edit summary mention the editors who contributed to the text that your pasting in, you could type in the edit summary for example " adding new section, contributions to this made by myself, user:xxxx, user:yyyy and user:zzzz ". Thats the quick way, another way is whats called a history merge, which can take alot of time and is performed by admins. Honestly its even a bit too complicated for myself about the history merges, but sometimes they are necessary... hope this makes sense, cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:02, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour darling Ottawafourever, I am very sorry for my confusion ( English is not my first language)--(je suis confuse, il faut me pardonner toutes mes erreurs ). Maybe today or tomorrow, I will make the fusion of two texts. Thank for all your advices and pass a good weekend with your family. --Geneviève (talk) 16:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Have a good weekend as well, dont be discouraged by any of this. Your doing very well on wiki! On a lighter side, have a look at some of the pages here WP:HUMOR They're pages that are meant to be satires of policies on wiki, there fairly funny, and since youve been here a while you might appreciate alot of the jokes or references they make. Also if you like statistics you can observe the total number of edits you've made here (as well as other things); -you just put any users name into the box, your at 2000+ :) (though truly no editing stat really matters) Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:56, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Special thanks
Bonjour Genevieve. Thank you so much for the wikicookie. I have never received one before. It made my day and you have made me very happy. On the topic of Montreal hockey, I have created 2010–11 McGill Martlets women's hockey season. On February 4, McGill will play the Montreal CWHL team at McConnell Arena on 3883 University Street. The McGill goalie is Charline Labonte so it will mark a rare occasion when Labonte plays against Kim St Pierre. It should be a great match. Hugs Maple Leaf (talk) 12:33, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Maple Leaf, yes a great match for 4 February but this match is for Friday evening. The beginning of the Shabbat. And I shall go to pray in the Synagogue (I am practising). Nevertheless thank for this information. Pass a good weekend with your family, merci de votre gentillesse et bon week-end avec votre famille, --Geneviève (talk) 14:20, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Voeux
Bonjour Geneviève. Comme je ne viens que très rarement sur la wikipédia anglaise, je n'avais pas remarqué ton message de voeux adressé à tous les membres du projet hockey français. Je viens de leur retransmettre et j'ai accepté en leur nom ta traduction de l'article Ligue canadienne de hockey féminin que j'ai mis en place. Je te souhaite en mon nom et celui, je n'en doute pas, de mes amis du projet hockey français une très belle et heureuse année 2011. Tous nos voeux t'accompagnent. --Supertoff (talk) 04:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Merci Supertoff . Nous travaillons tous et chacun(e) pour ce grand projet de connaissance humaine qu'est Wikipédia et cela peu importe la langue. Je suis toujours attachée aux mots et aux sons de la langue française. S'il y a des textes anglophones que j'ai écrite qui peuvent enrichir ton projet hockey alors prend les textes (ils sont sur ma page de présentation). Cela me fera plaisir. Prend soin de toi, un doux bisou --Geneviève (talk) 13:18, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your work!
Having a longstanding history with women in hockey - my belief for over twenty years now is that the first woman to play in a top-level North American professional sport will be a hockey goalie - it's lovely to see someone so enthusiastic about creating and improving related hockey articles. Thanks for the effort!  RGTraynor  14:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Great!!! Thank u so much!! Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 15:20, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

National Women's Hockey League (NWHL)
Chère Genevieve. Your work on the 1998-99 NWHL season is superlative. I do not believe there is much else I could add to it. You are definitely motivating me to be a better Wikipedian. Hugs Maple Leaf (talk) 18:07, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Civility barnstar
thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 02:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Brampton Thunder
Bonjour Genevieve. Congrats on gaining another Barnstar. Very well deserved. You make working on wikipedia a great experience. With regards to the Brampton Thunder seasons:

2009–10 Brampton Thunder season 2007–08 Brampton Thunder season

they should be joined to the page on both Brampton Thunder and CWHL 2009–10 CWHL season and 2007–08 CWHL season. Considering that women's hockey is still a growing topic on wikipedia, we should join it wherever possible. Hope you have a great day. Maple Leaf (talk) 12:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok Maple Leaf, I put the links between differents pages --Geneviève (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Archiving
Details are here; Help:Archiving a talk page; but basically all you have to do, is create a new sub page like you normally do for sand box, call it Archive 1 instead of sand box. Then Cut and paste the material you want to archive into the new archive page you made. The edit history will remain on your main talk page with this method. After you've archived the text you can create a link to it on your user page. Im no huge fan of archives myself, but it is easy to see the current discussions. Hope this helps, message me if this doesnt make any sense, Cheers, Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I should note this is a very basic answer, there are alot more sophisticated ways where archiving can be done auto matically after a fixed condition is met Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:04, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Further elaboration; when you create the archive page the naming convention for you would be User talk:Genevieve2/Archive 1 Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 16:56, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks
The Women's World Championships pages are a work in process, but its nice to know someone notices. :) Thank you.  Canada Hky (talk) 03:20, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hi Genevieve: Welcome to Wikipedia! Noticed your helpful comments at WP:TALKJUDAISM. Feel free to be in touch or if I can be of help in any way. Shalom! IZAK (talk) 08:27, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

thanks, merci, תודה -- העברית שלי לא טובה. התשוקה שלי : ההוקי של הנשים.
 * --Geneviève (talk) 14:36, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Congregation Dorshei Emet
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   12:04, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Beautiful looking article :) Ottawa4ever (talk) 12:13, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

thanks, merci, תודה 
 * CTV (a canadian television) have a good report on this event. As the first Reconstructionist synagogue in Canada, Dorshei Emet has always treated women as equals. Shabbat Shalom.I hope you have a week-end with happiness, peace and serenity. אני אוהב אותך --Geneviève (talk) 13:02, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Congratulations Genevieve. You have accomplished your first Did You Know? I am very proud of you. Maple Leaf (talk) 14:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Maple Leaf. All 70% of the merit belongs to Jayjg. Jayjg worked very hardly on this page with me. Jayjg deserve also congratulations because it was a collectif working on this new page --Geneviève (talk) 15:01, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Personal page
Bonjour Genevieve. Hope all is well. You can always count on me. I have created four banners with a light blue background. Regrettably, there were formatting issues with the Userboxes and I could not put them in the banner properly. My apologies. Hope you do not mind, but I placed a question mark symbol above your profile pic. That symbol indicates that you worked on an article that was featured on Did You Know. It is like a badge of honour. If a user clicks on the symbol, it will lead them to the Congregation Dorshei Emet page. Hope it is ok. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:50, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you so much for all, merci beaucoup, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 18:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

It is my pleasure. You are a joy to work with and an outstanding person. Maple Leaf (talk) 19:00, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

New pages
Chère Genevieve. I created two pages that I thought may be of interest to you. Montreal Stars captain Lisa-Marie Breton and women's ice hockey activist Dr. Justine Blainey-Broker. Let me know what you think of Breton. If there is anything that you can add to it, I would be very appreciative. Veuillez agréer mes sentiments les meilleurs. Maple Leaf (talk) 00:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Great!!! Thank u so much!! Regrettably I don't know Lisa-Marie Breton. I have no photo of Lisa-Marie. She does not come to the meetings with the fans after the games. --Geneviève (talk) 00:59, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Non-free images and your userspace
Per terms of WP:NFCC #9 policy, the use of non-free images in userspace is NOT permitted. It is not vandalism to remove it from your sandbox page. When you are ready to place the content of that page into mainspace, do so and THEN restore the non-free image, ensuring that you also supply a non-free rationale on the image's description page for that use, per WP:NFCC #10c. Instructions at WP:FURG. If you persist in restoring non-free content to your userspace now that you know the policy, it will be considered disruptive editing and may lead to a block of your editing privileges. If you have questions, ask. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 03:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC) ::Hi Genevieve, Dont take the above to be too harsh. Hammersoft means well. Basically all he's saying is just disable image on your sandbox before you move it to the mainspace. Also when you find yourself reverting another editor's edits, it is good practice to revert once and open discussion on their talk page, or best yet open discussion on their talk page first before reverting. If reversions go back and forth it becomes an edit war, and an editor can be blocked (sometimes BOTH editors) per a rule called 3rr which states (very basically) you shouldnt in 24 hours revert more than 3 times. Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

 Good morning Hammersoft and Ottawafourever, I am very sorry for my error. Thank you so much for yours works in Wikipedia but the sentences written with harshness isn't good for us. I know one women which have left Wikipedia for this harshness.... Please read the discussion New York Times article on Wikipedia gender bias  in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Feminism‎. Pass a good week-end, Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 13:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Geneviève, no harshness was intended or implied. I did have every intention of being direct and to the point. Twice you reverted my edits, describing me as a vandal, even though I had thrice linked you to WP:NFCC #9. That was the reason why I was direct, as it appeared that despite pointing you to that policy three times, the message was not clear. Stepping up warnings is a normal part of the process here, as you can see from UTM. Users who intentionally violate policy after being pointed towards the policy receive increasing severity of warnings. This case is no different. If that creates gender bias, so be it. You are most certainly welcome to suggest a non-gender biasing construct for handling warnings to users who are violating policy. Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace might be a good place to start such a discussion. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


 * bonjour Hammersoft, I am a new person on Wikipedia ( see my Userboxe 1 month, and 24 days): I don't know all the rules and laws of wikipedia. I believed that was of the vandalism when we removed the image of my sandbox. Then of any good faith, I put back her after. It was my error.  I am very sorry for my big error. It was not necessary to threaten me with penalties. If You would have employ a kind message on my talk page and I shall have understood. I thank you so much to have correct my big error but I did not like the harshness tone of your message. I am a sensitive woman and we are all human.  The error is human. Peace. Paix. שלום --Geneviève (talk) 14:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)


 * please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers


 * Editors are not expected to be perfect. However, when an editor appears to be intentionally violating policy they were thrice linked to, and in the process twice calling the person enforcing the problem a vandal, then the warnings will increase in severity. You don't want me to bite you? Fine. Then act in accordance with policies, especially when you've had three opportunities to do so. referring to a user's good-faith edits as vandalism may lead to their feeling unfairly attacked. Please be more careful in your accusations of vandalism in the future. Again, if you think our stepped process of increasing severity of warnings is wrong, I heartily encourage you to suggest a replacement system by making such a suggestion at Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Hammersoft I edited two times my sandbox User:Genevieve2/sandbox05 because I had no explanation for the logo of Team Canada (Équipe Canada): See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Genevieve2/sandbox05&action=history  .I had the explanation specifies that this morning by you.  I am very sorry for my big error. I am new person on Wikipedia, I go my possible on Wikipedia and I always demonstrated a good faith. I have never wanted to make personal attacks, or to make the vandalism. My work on wikipedia is honest and good for a new person. I am a new person without experience. I am not perfect, I am one humain. You can verify my behavior with the other Wikipedia members in WikiProject Ice Hockey, WikiProject Feminism,  and WikiProject Judaism. Thanks you, Shabbat Shalom for you and your family--Geneviève (talk) 16:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Just observing; we have at least 9 or so wiki policy blue links for really one error here for a Genevieve, a user who is editing less than 2 months; and we wonder why wikipedia isnt attracting many new people editing articles? Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Glad to see that this seems to be resolved. It's easy to forget how confusing it is to be a new editor sometimes. Kaldari (talk) 03:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Kaldari and ottawa4ever, many new person makes errors on Wikipedia. I still have things to be learnt on Wikipedia. The important is not to threaten the new persons with penalties and sanctions. The text said: '' New members are prospective contributors and are therefore Wikipedia's most valuable resource. We must treat newcomers with kindness and patience — nothing scares potentially valuable contributors away faster than hostility. It is impossible for a newcomer to be completely familiar with all of the policies, guidelines, and community standards of Wikipedia before they start editing. Even the most experienced editors may need a gentle reminder from time to time.'' (reference:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers )

I choose to learn lesson from the incident with Hammersoft. Thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 14:25, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Motivation
Thank you so much for the Knighthood. It was a very kind and generous gesture. You have always motivated me to bet better, and your contact with Stars players has been tremendous in giving women's ice hockey exposure for Wikipedia. I could not think of a better way to share my gratitude than with the Motivation Award. Well deserved. Glad you are back. Maple Leaf (talk) 19:13, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Merci Genevieve, Many thanks from myself as well. All the best Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:14, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

WWHL/Boston Blades
Bonjour Genevieve. Hope you are enjoying Valentines Day. Your work on those WWHL seasons is outstanding. I will try and find any award winners for those seasons. With regards to the Boston Blades, I used the teams colours for the schedule. With all the seasons that I create, I always include the record in the schedule (just a habit). I love the work you did on the season. The photo is a really great touch. Maple Leaf (talk) 14:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Teams of Western Women's Hockey League
Bonjour Genevieve. I was able to find the general manager and coaching staff for the Calgary Oval X-Treme. It may be worthwhile for you to add that Tomas Pacina (Wickenheiser's partner) was head coach from 1997 to 2007. In addition, I was able to find out that Colleen Sostorics was the captain in their final year. With regards to Prairie Ice, I am unable to find any details. I will continue to search but it may take time. Best wishes Maple Leaf (talk) 18:37, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 20:19, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Reply
Salut Genevieve, Ill certaintly patch up some grammar. Im a bit stretched over tommorrow and the next, but Ill do my best to make some time. Will talk soon, a bientot Ottawa4ever (talk) 19:59, 16 February 2011 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ottawa4ever"

Thanks, Merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Salut, Ok, gave the pages a quick read, your first link you posted needs another read though i think for a few more corrections. Feel free to undue any of the changes. Ill try to come back to the page again when time permits. Ottawa4ever (talk) 15:41, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

ok. Thanks for all --Geneviève (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Bukkake article
Hi!

User Jayen seems to be of the opinion that I have been incivil with you in the Bukkake article. I assure you that I welcome your participation, whatever your viewpoint, in that and any other article. Although I may state an opinion that differs from yours, I respect your unique perspective. SO, although I don;t think I did anything untoward, please accept my apologies if I have offended you in any way. Atom (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Regarding whether on of the images shows the woman in bondage or not, I offered an opinion that it did not seem that way to me, but merely that she has her hand behind her back, perhaps supporting her weight. I don;t see how whether she were in bondage or not is pertinent either way. It shows her sitting on the floor, and naked, neither of which are necessary for the act of Bukkake. Havinf other information in the image would only be a distraction. I can certianly agree that given two similar images, the one that most accurately represents the topic without distractions should be used. Regards, to you, Atom (talk) 20:40, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Atom,  I expressed only my opinion. Each person has the values and his faiths. I do not support the pornographic images. I am for the abolition of this type of image in Wikipedia. It is a part of my Jewish culture and my personnal faiths. But however said Wikipedia:

Articles about hardcore pornography subjects should not contain images which are, themselves, hardcore pornography.

Because: These articles are mostly about obscure sub-genres of pornography. The point is, these are not vital articles. They are marginal articles, and any images in them are therefore images in a marginal article.

On the other hand, in return for the debatable encyclopedic value imparted by these images, we have that:


 * There is a considerable cost to the encyclopedia to host these images. These few images are among the most contentious materials hosted on Wikipedia, degrade Wikipedia's reputation, create a political vulnerability for Wikipedia, and drive away readers (including women; Wikipedia has a serious deficit of female readers and editors, and that is a problem, and this sort of thing doesn't help).


 * It is not a good thing for young people to be viewing these images. Other images on Wikipedia may also be problematic, but these images are especially problematic since they depict extreme sexual situations, and they depict events that occur in pornography but not (at a verifiably notable level) in real life. A picture being worth a thousand words, this point may be lost on impressionable viewers.


 * Many of these images are misogynistic and degrading to women, and this is by intentional design, since the pornographic genres they illustrate are misogynistic and degrading to women. While it may be appropriate to display images depicting the degradation of women in certain historical or sociological contexts, its not appropriate to use them in what is a least a borderline "fanboy" context. Wikipedia should not propagate misogyny.

(reference : Hardcore pornography images

Thanks and Shabbat Shalom with your family, Merci et je vous souhaite un bon week-end avec votre famille, תודה ושבוע טוב --Geneviève (talk) 22:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Notifying projects about deletion discussions
Hi Geneviève. It's fine to notify projects of a deletion discussion for an article that is of interest to that project. But the message should be absolutely neutral, not campaigning for people to vote a particular way. A good form to use in future is something like:


 * Article XYZ is up for deletion. The discussion is at Articles for deletion/Article XYZ for members who may wish to comment.

There's more about this guideline at Canvassing. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 16:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour, I was only inviting the persons to come to give their opinion to protect this page for the history of women sports. This gesture is often made in the feminist project. But if it is no correct, I am going to remove my appeal of help in the talk page project Women's history. Good luck to your project. Thanks, merci תודה --Geneviève (talk) 17:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It's fine to tell a project about an AfD, I do it all the time. But wording like: "Please Help me to preserve this page" isn't neutral. It's asking people to vote a certain way and sometimes other editors in the discussion try to use that as an excuse to discount the votes of people who have been notified. So it's always better to be on the safe side and make sure the message has a completely neutral wording. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:58, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Nice
Hi Gen, thanks for the cookie, nice to be appreciated DjlnDjln (talk) 21:11, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Great!!! I believe many persons are not enough encouraged and valued on Wikipedia. Continue your good work in Wikipedia, Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 21:33, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

For the march 8th
Hello Genevieve. I hope I have not caused you offense. I was only trying to explain Canvassing, as it is an official guideline of the English Wikipedia. Personally, I have no objection to what you posted on WikiProject Feminism. Kaldari (talk) 22:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

I know you are a good person. Thanks and good luck for you, take care for you darling. Merci et bonne chance à toi chérie. --Geneviève (talk) 22:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

2009-10 CWHL
Bonjour Genevieve. Hope all is well. Regrettably, I was never able to find the scores for the 2010 playoff matches. If I come across them, I will be sure to insert them. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Sections for Women's Hockey teams
I am very impressed with all the contributions you have made. You are sensational! I love the two sections: season by season and season standings. The only modification I made was the use of colour. If you observe both Montreal Axion and Montreal Stars, I added the use of light green in the playoff section. The other section is still purple. I just wanted to make it a bit more visual. Keep up the great work. Hope you have a great week. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It would probably be good to open up a greater discussion on this since it diverges from WikiProject Ice Hockey/Team pages format allowing a record of these changes thats easy to access. Someone unfamilliar with the history of this development may end up undoing the changes. It might be fruitful to gauge a larger consensus to see if the people at WP:hockey like these improvements for the manual of style for hockey team pages also, they may or may not. cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 10:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

 Bonjour Ottawafourever, Thanks for getting back to me. To tell the truth, I don't have  a lot energy for all its discussions in  differents Wikiprojects. I lived disappointments in the feminist project and I don't want to live again an a defeat in another wikiproject. Now I only want to write pages on Women Hockey. We all agree Wikipedia is a noble cause and If one of you two wishes to participate in it, free to you. Bonne chance,--Geneviève (talk) 12:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry to hear that. But you shouldnt let previous discussions on other projects deter you from collaborating with other editors in other wiki projects. Yes its true that sometimes we get disappointed in the outcomes in some discussions, but there are other times when contributing an idea does bring positive change. If no one ever suggests change - nothing actually changes on wikipedia. cheers Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:35, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, but I disagree... I am the only woman on the Wikiproject Hockey, and me mastery awkwardly the English language. Furthermore I am without experience on wikipedia. Then I invite you to go to propose these modifications in the Wikiproject Hockey. I leave you the leadership because you have much more experience in Wikipedia and your English language is perfect. Bonne chance, --Geneviève (talk) 02:08, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * My role has been to help you develop into a better editor and show you how Wikipedia works- I think you know most of what i can help with now though. From this you’ve proven yourself to be capable in developing articles amassing well over half the total edits I have done and numerous awards of appreciation. You are not inexperienced anymore. Your work with women’s hockey (and Jewish related ones) is admirable and developing and certainly filling a gap on Wikipedia which is needed. Some projects have more drama/controversey than others, WP:Hockey has certaintly discussed issues with you in a positive light in the past, so you shouldnt fear discussing edits with wikiprojects. In the end though any suggestion is left up to your choice- You are after all your own editor. Ottawa4ever (talk) 14:22, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

 Thanks Ottawafourever for trying but I'm not sure about that. Read IZAK ( this member have 8 years and 2 months in Wikipedia) in talk page of WikiProject Judaism: reference re-write the page Reconstructionist Judaism


 * Hi Genevieve: Nothing personal, but are you sure you should take on such a big and responsible task when you evidently have poor English language skills, as evidenced from the way you write this short "request"? IZAK (talk) 21:09, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks anyway for letting me know. Thankyou dear Ottawafourever, we will talk again later In a few months. Can be maybe at autumn 2011 ? Merci quand même de toute votre gentillesse et de votre grand cœur mais je préfère m'abstenir maintenant de toute discussion controversé dans les Wikiprojects. Mon coeur et mes émotions sont fragiles maintenant. --Geneviève (talk) 15:05, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I get your frustrations, your entitled to them. Though i do disagree with alot of the above and reasoning-But you know my position and I know yours. If you need editing help in the future like any editor, my talk page is open. You can also ask direct questions at WP:Helpdesk as well- a very useful resource. Hope you the best in the mean time, happy editing. Ottawa4ever (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Minnesota Whitecaps
Bonjour Genevieve. I have filled in some content for the 2010-11 section of the Whitecaps. It was all the information that I could find. Hope it helps. Maple Leaf (talk) 17:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 02:13, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you so much for the Barnstar. It made my day! I sincerely appreciated it and am very happy for this nice gesture on your part. Merci beaucoup. Maple Leaf (talk) 17:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Pauline Bebe
Merci. Thank you for your nice work on this important article on an important person. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for noticing and merci pour l'etoile. I wish you a happy continuing 'career' as an editor.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:27, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I am no expert on WP:dyk, but I believe that the time limits for applying will happen very soon. Ordinarily, there is a 4 day window from article creation (which I guess would run from the time I removed the banner, so that it was not your 'internal' document).  I was not sure if Ottawa4ever had gotten back to you, and I don't want you to miss out, nor do I want to be a cause-in-fact of any loss to you, or for any ennui on your part.   7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 03:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Kudos to Jayjg, Jay has posted the article at dyk (where someone will come and review the article pointing out if there are any issues) and to 7 (couldnt respond earlier sorry). Normally you have 5 days (+/- a few days) after the article was created (moved from user space) to be posted there, but most people at dyk will not be too picky (on a hard time line) so long as the posting is listed within reasonable timeline. Cheers. Ottawa4ever (talk) 11:24, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Bonjour Thanks so much to each person . I have just read the page Articles created/expanded on February 24, Thanks, Merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 11:33, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

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2010–11 Boston Blades season
Bonjour Genevieve. I am getting caught up on my messages. The schedule for Boston Blades is now complete. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Maple Leaf (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

World Women's championship
With regards to the 2011 IIHF World Women's Championships and the effort on your behalf to write pages (or improve the existing pages) on the various national teams, I will be more than glad to provide assistance. Maple Leaf (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for your help. Every week I shall have 2 or 3 pages to be made correct. --Geneviève (talk) 11:39, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Austria and Latvia
Bonjour Genevieve. Hope you had a nice weekend. I have updated the articles for Latvia and Austria. You are doing an outstanding job and I am very proud of you. I have already created a page for the 2011 Clarkson Cup and I hope the Montreal Stars win it. Veuillez agréer mes sentiments les meilleurs. Maple Leaf (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Germany, Clarkson Cup
The German article is updated. You did some great work! Thank you for the kind words regarding the Clarkson Cup article. I was disappointed when I found out the tournament was in Barrie. I was so sure it would have been in Montreal because the Stars were so much better than the rest of the league. Maple Leaf (talk) 17:44, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

MARCH 8: It is International Women's Day

 * Happy International Women's Day. Without women, all men would be lost. Maple Leaf (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Pauline Bebe
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 * Congratulations. I am very proud of you. Maple Leaf (talk) 13:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Maple Leaf but it was a team work with collaboration of 7&amp;6=thirteen, Jayen466 and Jayjg . I should can be to ask them of the help for our project of the Women's national hockey teams ? --Geneviève (talk) 13:47, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be a great idea

Great Britain
Bonjour Genevieve. Hope your week is going well. What you added to the article is terrific! I would add it to the existing page right away. Overall, the entire article though needs to be laid out differently. Currently, it is difficult to read and requires some extensive work to improve. If you wish, you can leave the sandbox open and we can work together to improve it. Best wishes :) Maple Leaf (talk) 17:49, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes it is very good idea. My Sandbox is open for work team together with you.--Geneviève (talk) 20:35, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

 * And feel free to drop me a note if you'd ever like me to do some copy-editing for you. :) Happy editing, -- JN 466  01:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Danke Jayen. Ich will mir bei Ihnen für Ihre Arbeit bedanken. C'est un plaisir de travailler en équipe avec vous.--Geneviève (talk) 12:06, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * :) -- JN 466  12:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Piedmont
Hi Genevieve, I managed to sort flag problem DjlnDjln (talk) 19:00, 10 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Djln I wish a good weekend for you, Merci je vous souhaite un bon week-end --Geneviève (talk) 12:09, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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User:Genevieve2/sandbox0324
I saw your request on User talk:7&6=thirteen and took the liberty of fixing your template. Asher196 (talk) 16:38, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

thanks you so much, Merci Beaucoup, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 16:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
 * You are very welcome!--Asher196 (talk) 16:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

A new week
Bonjour. Very happy about the Montreal Stars and the McGill Martlets! I see that someone already fixed the template before I was able to get to it. I have modified the Great Britain article in your sandbox. I would need to insert a chart for the yearly record. You have done a beautiful job with the various national teams. You motiviate me to be better. (Be back Wednesday) Best wishes Maple Leaf (talk) 16:54, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

2011 Clarkson Cup
What superlative work! You are amazing. The quality of work on all your pages is what really stands out. Your contributions to women's ice hockey not only helps me tremendously, but it is a credit to anyone looking for good information on the sport. If you wanted to, you could be a future admin in the making. Hugs Maple Leaf (talk) 00:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Maple Leaf for the compliments. In fact I played hockey since the age of 8 years. Last year, I abandoned the practice of the hockey because a very serious wound. I concentrate henceforth my energies to learn sports correspondent's job (journalism). A woman journalist in the male environment of the sport medias is possible (this is my personnal dream ; do you know Fanny Rosenfeld. She covered women's sports in the Globe and Mail ). I don't want to become an administrator on Wikipedia. I prefer work to recruit other women and to help them in written with news pages on the women hockey, on the women soccer, on the women volleyball, on women Basketball.... There is so much to make to value the women in sports ( Read Women remain under-represented in sports leadership roles and Equality in sports? Women aren't there yet
 * Best regards and thanks for all your support. --Geneviève (talk) 01:02, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

National team pages
Bonjour Genevieve. I am very intrigued by those articles you provided. One of the ladies in the article is someone that I know. In addition, I contributed to the Bobbie Rosenfeld article in April of 2010. Definitely one of the greatest Canadian women athletes ever. On the topic of the women's national team pages, I actually created season pages for the US (please see: 2010–11 United States women's national ice hockey team) and Canada (2010–11 Canada women's national ice hockey team). As they are the top two countries, I decided it would be worthwhile to dedicate season pages as there is so much activity that goes in one year for these two teams. Please share any thoughts or comments on how to improve them. Yours truly Maple Leaf (talk) 16:45, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Oui bien sûr . Excellent projet. Yes all right. I am going to read both pages and to try to improve them. --Geneviève (talk) 16:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Updates
Allo. I have updated the Great Britain page in your sandbox. It is now ready to go. I forgot to mention but I did find the results of the playoff matches in the 2009-10 CWHL season. Enjoy your weekend. Maple Leaf (talk) 23:43, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

'''Great!!! ''' Thank u so much!! Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 00:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Romania, Spain, South Africa
✅. I've added the translations for the Romanian, Spanish and South African teams in your sandbox. -- JN 466  08:41, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

 Danke für Ihre Hilfe, merci pour votre aide, Thanks for your assistance --Geneviève (talk) 10:48, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Noemie Marin
Bonjour. I will start looking at the National Team pages tomorrow. I have created the page on Noemie Marin as she participated in softball at the 2008 Olympics. An athlete who participated in the Olympics will not have their page deleted. Bonne semaine Maple Leaf (talk) 23:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Great!!! I added some information on Noemie Marin.--Geneviève (talk) 00:20, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

New category
Bonjour Genevieve. J'ai crée une nouvelle category qui s'appelle Montreal Stars players. Vous pouvez l'ajouter sur la page d'Annie. Je vous souhaites un bonne semaine. Maple Leaf (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your good work, merci de votre bon travail, תודה על העבודה שלך --Geneviève (talk) 23:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Women's Ice Hockey Bundesliga
Hi Geneviève, I've gone through the Women's Ice Hockey Bundesliga. Does it look okay? Best, -- JN 466  01:27, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

 Great!!! Thank u so much!! Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 12:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Women's ice hockey in Austria
Chère Genevieve. J'ai commençé la traduction pour cette page. J'essayera de finir la traduction pour la fin de cette semaine. La page d'Emmanuelle Blais est excellente. J'aime le portrait. Je vous souhaites une bonne soirée. Maple Leaf (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

'''Great!!! ''' Thank u so much!!. Bonnne fin de journée, --Geneviève (talk) 18:26, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Coupe Dodge
Regarding your revert of my edit. I took this from http://www.coupe-dodge.qc.ca/ "Also named Dodge Cup, the Provincial Championships in ice hockey is a sport event of considerable magnitude.  Approximately 6,000 male and female players participating, which is also a considerable provincial finals of the Quebec Games." I know the usual name in Canada is "Coupe Dodge", but you are going to put the article in the english language Wikipedia, and having "Dodge Cup" in the lead would be appropriate.--Asher196 (talk) 22:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

 Bonjour Asher Thankyou for bringing that to my attention. We have the same difficulty in Wikipedia pages on the hockey in Germany : Many leagues or championships having names foreigner for the English language. But there are names which we cannot translate. Another examples for french canada in English wikipedia: Wikipedia is a collaborative process. A team working between different persons with different cultures. I think this raises a major issue about what wikipedia have no solutions: The multiculralism in Canada ( english terms in french-quebecois language and french terms in english-canadian language). They have same discutions in Wikipedia Francophone with english terms. Also in Hebrew Wikipedia. The life is complex now with the globalization. Bonne chance à vous, מזל טוב --Geneviève (talk) 13:52, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Bremerhaven Stadthalle
 * Category:Deutsche Eishockey Liga players
 * Category:Deutsche Eishockey Liga coaches
 * Cégep de Saint-Laurent
 * Collège Édouard-Montpetit
 * Conservatoire de musique du Québec à Saguenay
 * Le Petit Séminaire de Québec, campus de l'Outaouais
 * Université du Québec

Thanks for the The Friendship Barnstar :)
Thank you for the The Friendship Barnstar. I'm not as interested in women's winter sport but if you need some help, let me know. I can help find sources to help get an article up to the right citation level if you're trying for a good article. I'm hoping that we can get Netball up to FAC, which would be the first major female oriented sport article in Category:FA-Class sports articles. :) --LauraHale (talk) 10:12, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

La Coupe Dodge
Bonjour Genevieve. I have reviewed la Coupe Dodge and made a few changes. Everything is good to go with this article. You really did some outstanding work. :) I have worked on the Austrian article but there were a few words that I was not sure how to translate. Thank you for the updates with the Clarkson Cup. Go Stars! Maple Leaf (talk) 16:05, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Ligue AA
Thank you very much for the pie. It is a very kind and wonderful gesture. You are truly the best! I have made the necessary corrections to the Ligue AA and it is ready to go. Another impressive job. Enjoy your weekend Maple Leaf (talk) 19:56, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Netball at the Olympics
An article that you have been involved in editing, Netball at the Olympics, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Racepacket (talk) 05:22, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

rename?
hello, I see you are he:User:Genevieve. Are you also commons:User:Genevieve ? Would you like to become 'Genevieve' here on English Wikipedia? John Vandenberg (chat) 11:04, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks John  but the number 2 is very important in my life: It was the figure on my Jerseys of Bantam hockey and Midget hockey. In Wikimedia Commons I am commons:User:Genevieve2, bon week-end, --Geneviève (talk) 11:14, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


 * No worries at all ;) I see you nabbed the no. 2 spot on the wikiproject proposal as well.  I know bugger all about women's sport, other than that we need more of it.  I look forward to working with you, and will happily get out of everyone's hair once it is up and running. John Vandenberg (chat) 11:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject women in sports
Bonjour Genevieve. C'est une excellent idée. Je suis devenu un membre. Maple Leaf (talk) 15:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)


 * It is not hasty. Excellent initiative on your part! So much work has been done on women's ice hockey (and more to come) that it needs recognition. For an article to be considered good, here are a few tips: The WP:LEAD should be a summary of the entire article. An infobox is needed. Also, each paragraph should have at least one inline citations. Maple Leaf (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Concordia Stingers
Bonjour Genevieve. Seeing how Stars founder Lisa-Marie Breton played hockey at Concordia, I have created a page recognizing the team. If you have any information that you are able to add to Concordia Stingers women's ice hockey, it would be most welcome. I am still doing research on a page for the Dawson College Blues women's team. Hugs Maple Leaf (talk) 18:04, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Dawson Blues
Bonjour Geneveive. The Dawson Blues should only be for the AA women's ice hockey team. Merci. Maple Leaf (talk) 19:08, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Thankyou for your thoughtful reply.--Geneviève (talk) 19:29, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Austria
Dear Geneviève, the Austrian league page is done. Best, -- JN 466  00:02, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

' 'Great!!! Thank u so much!! Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 10:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Sarah Vaillancourt
J'ai ajouté quelque chose intéressant sur la page de Sarah Vaillancourt. Par gagner la 2011 Clarkson Cup, Vaillancourt est devenu membre unofficiel du Triple Gold Club (the accomplishment by women is not yet officially recognized by the IIHF). Elle est un de quatre femmes avec un IIHF championnant du monde, medaille d'or Olympique est une Coupe Clarkson. Maple Leaf (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

 Bravo Maple Leaf c'est excellent. Je cherche à compléter le tableau ( sur la page 2011 Clarkson Cup) mais je n'ai malheureusement pas les informations:
 * Awards and honors

Bonne semaine à vous, --Geneviève (talk) 14:55, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Women Ice Hockey List
I think that would be a great effort. :) I just am not in the position to do much about it.  My university library has a few books about ice hockey but not many.  There may be a few references in there.  I could probably try something for the Australian female equivalent of the Australian Ice Hockey League. Players and teams may be easier to do than say Women's sport in Australia, Women's sport in Canada, Women's sport in the Cook Islands.  We'd intersect more but not much.

Randomly, you mentioned somewhere that you're doing research on women's sport at a university? If so, which one? I'm a sport studies PhD student myself. Would love to find more intersection with people in that area. :) --LauraHale (talk) 04:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Laura for getting back to me: I believe that you badly understood me. My English language is very poor and I am vague in my ideas. Stay up excuse me for it. I did not speak about Women hockey specifically. I spoke of listing existing wikipedia articles on women sports. Wikipedia Articles importants as that - this: Women's association football or Canadian women's ice hockey history. Mattering importance according by me but the WikiProject Ice Hockey can think that the articles are less important ( a important men majority in WikiProject Ice Hockey - I am the only woman in this project ). Thus make a census of articles important for a future WikiProject Women's Sport. I believe that the WikiProject Women's History made this approach ? Can being I make a mistake ? Your page User:LauraHale/Good Topic is an good example: I wanted more to elaborate this census (not just GA and FA pages) ....maybe it is to hasty ???

Thus I did not ask you for a bibliography on the Women hockey. On this subject, there are very few books. I know the book of Nancy Theberge: Higher goals: women's ice hockey and the politics of gender. Many books on the hockey do not approach the women hockey and are only mentioning him on one page or two pages. Reluctantly I am not student in a university. My school notes was bad. I have only a diploma of Hight school. I am a former player of hockey (which stopped because of a grave wound in 2009). I am always to imply in the women hockey, If the life is good, I shall be a journalist in a newspaper. This is my dream. Every human have a personnal dream. Je vous remercie de votre courtoisie. תודה על האדיבות שלך --Geneviève (talk) 11:13, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Could be that I didn't understand because I wasn't paying much attention. :) (School is stressful.)  Making a list of articles and kind of trying to start to create a portal may be a good idea.  That might make it easier to group articles and see what the number of articles in this area is to better understand the scope.  I can try to start to put together some stuff for women's specific footers at User:LauraHale/Women Sport Portal Article List that might be used for a women's sport portal in the future.  At the moment, I'm just going to work through what articles I've identified to get started. --LauraHale (talk) 11:48, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Sandbox 22214
Bonjour Genevieve. The Lynx article has been updated. In addition, I contacted Laura Hale and suggested that a women's sports portal would be a good start. If you would like the book, please let me know.Maple Leaf (talk) 17:03, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, merci, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Dawson Blues
I am very impressed with the quality of your work on both the Lynx and Dawson College pages. Superlative! I have reviewed the Dawson College page and it is ready. Hope you are having a good day. Maple Leaf (talk) 16:56, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank so much . But just one precision; the Ed Meagher Arena is on the exterm west of downtown Montreal, (see this map - concordia campus) not in the western section of downtown. Bon week-end --Geneviève (talk) 17:03, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

April is Daffodil month in Canada
Month of the fight against the cancer. Most of us have a cancer story in our families. We have all been touched by the disease, directly or indirectly.
 * Avril est le mois de la Jonquille au Canada: c'est le mois de la lutte contre le cancer. Cela représente beaucoup d’histoires de vies dans nos familles.
 * באפריל שזה החודש של נרקיסים


 * התגבר על הסרטן

--Geneviève (talk) 01:41, 4 April 2011 (UTC)




 * Very touching. My aunt died of breast cancer in April 1999, so it has always been an emotional month. Maple Leaf (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Female hockey player birthdays
I'm working on creating a draft of the women's sport portal. I'm waiting until it is basically done before moving it to the proper name space. It is currently at User:LauraHale/Women's Sport Portal. One of the things I would like to have there is a list of female athlete birthdays. If you could help add female hockey player birthdays by date on the sub pages at User:LauraHale/Women's Sport Portal/Birthdays, that would be awesome. :) --LauraHale (talk) 06:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Feel free to edit away on my user pages regarding the women's sport project. My personal goal is to have it it moved to the main space by Sunday around 6pm Australian Eastern Time. If there are places beyond birthdays, such as pictures and organisations, please add them.  (The biographies and articles are all GA or FA articles.)  Ditto with the Did you know? facts and anything else that you think you could improve.  The more random content that is pulled, the better the scope of the project will seem.  This will also be a better argument for the creation of the taskforce. --LauraHale (talk) 20:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Adding section titles
Hi there, you're doing alot of great work on these womens hockey articles, but could you please start following WP:TITLE when adding section titles. I have tried to fix your edits quietly, just by pointing out to you in edit summarys what wikipedia policy was on section titles, but you you're still making edits like these,,. It may not be that much of a big deal, but it does make work for other editors who have to go back and fix the titles, when you could just as easily added them following the policy by not adding having them start in all caps. From my own experience, I have found that many editors are unaware that the policy even exists, so if you missed by edit summarys or have no idea what I'm talking about, can you please take a look at the policy, WP:TITLE. Cmr08 (talk) 00:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Bonsoir CMR,  thankyou for bringing that to my attention. The English language can have difficulties realities for me. I not mastery not indeed the English language. Before making your remark you should have consulted my Userboxes on my page:


 * Dear CMR you can see  English -1, not English -3 or not English-4 in my Userboxes of my page. Yes I have a poor english. This is my reality. And I thus invite you in more tolerance towards me. I am a human. Certain persons ( Maple Leaf , Marc87 and Jayen466 ) as who work with me know my difficulties in English and to complete my errors of English language on Women's hockey pages. Best regards, Je vous remercie , Nous sommes tous des humains de bonne volonté et rien n'est parfait sur cette petite terre  --Geneviève  (talk) 01:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry if I have offended you. That wasn't my intention. I just wanted you to know that all words in section titles don't begin with capital letters. That's all. There was nothing in my message that was critical of your english, in fact, I never even mentioned anything about your english to begin with. Like I said, I was only refering to the caps in section titles. The last thing I would want to do is offend another editor, had I known, I would have stayed away from editing those articles. Once again, I'm truly sorry for this. I'll stick to individual player articles, and see what I can with them. Cmr08 (talk) 03:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Mandi Schwartz
Thank you for advising me. I knew she was looking for a donor but was not aware of her passing. Very sad news. I have mentionned it on the Yale Bulldogs women's ice hockey page. Merci Maple Leaf (talk) 16:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK
Thanks for the praise. :) Also, I got your e-mail and have been a bit busy so haven't really processed to respond.  --LauraHale (talk) 06:11, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Photos
I loved the photos you added to those articles. I reviewed the captions and made the necessary corrections. Hope everything is well. Maple Leaf (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks so much, merci beaucoup, תודה --Geneviève (talk) 14:15, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Working for Portal:Women's sports / WikiProject Women's Sports
Tremendous initiative on the part of Laura and yourself. I have started adding birthdays and will continue. In terms of women's ice hockey articles that are Good or Featured Articles, I do not believe that there any. The WikiProject Ice Hockey page would not distinguish between men's and women's hockey. There is a wikiproject for College Ice Hockey and that may be something worth pursuing there. It is something that desperately needs to be addressed. With regards to local teams, I would add the university teams because they are so integral to help develop talent for the world championships and winter games. Best wishes Maple Leaf (talk) 18:49, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 *  Bonjour Maple Leaf,  thanks you for your comments and your suggestions. This morning I ended the following page:

Yes effectively there are no many quality articles on the women Hockey. Be the severe judgment of the other persons ( mainly men who are not interested in the women hockey) a page as Montreal Stars would deserve better as evaluation...
 * User:Genevieve2/Women ice hockey Good Topic ✅

For the next page User:Genevieve2/Women ice hockey Portal Article List, I having to ask for your opinion, and also for the opinion of my father (an great amateur of women soccer) and opinion of one of my professors in Cégep, It can become too heavy to include all the local teams (including the university teams) in a general banner. It risks to become non-functional for the consultation of the wikipedia readers. Can be needs t-il better not to include the local teams in this banner. To keep the very general banner. I do not know, I think about it this week.

Also thanks you so much for your additions on User:Genevieve2/Women ice hockey Athlete Birthday List. This week, I am going to complete the list by consulting the various roster of the teams of CHWL and WWHL Leagues. Bonne semaine, שבוע טוב --Geneviève (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Women ice hockey Portal Article list
Upon further observation, the banner has quite a lot of detail now. Teams from the CWHL and WWHL can be kept as they compete for the Clarkson Cup but not under local teams. You could call it CWHL/WWHL. University teams should be under their own banner. Local teams would be better suited under banners for their respective cities and/or provinces. Maple Leaf (talk) 16:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you  for bringing that to my attention. After reflection, I changed the name of the section for the name of Professional teams .I believe that is neutral, that it includes the teams CWWL and teams WWHL. It also leaves an opening for the other professional teams outside of the North America (if one day there is of the Women hockey professional in Sweden or in Finland), merci de votre aide --Geneviève (talk) 17:09, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Happy birthday grand Jacques
Today april 8 it is the born birthday of a great poet of the French-speaking song. Bonne Fête Jacques and vive la Belgique unie et bilingue --Geneviève  (talk) 19:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Merci, c'était vraiement un grand poete. Bon week-end. CaptainHaddock (talk) 09:12, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Of use to you
Hello Gen ..i am Moxy (from Ottawa) - i have been informed of your great contributions to women's hockey articles---great job - I am here to give you links to a few books that may be of use to you (this are digitized)-





.....More books that may be of use ingerneral are at Bibliography of Canadian history and at Bibliography of Canada - if you have any question pls ask me .Moxy (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

'''Great!!! ''' Thank u so much Moxy !! I know the Nancy Theberge's book. I fetch the other books in bookshops of Montreal. Best regards --Geneviève (talk) 14:28, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Gen i help make portals and Wikiprojects i see above you would like some help in this regards -- i can have  a portal up for you in am matter of an hour.Moxy (talk) 14:30, 9 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks Moxy. You are very kind. We should discuss this on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey, and  create  a women's hockey task force  when there is consensus with the another persons. The guidelines state that 5 members is a good starting point. If no one opposes the taskforce, I will start it up when we have 5 confirmed members. --Geneviève  (talk) 19:38, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Task force
Bonjour Genevive. Je support l'idée d'un task force. C'est une bonne idée mais on aura besoin d'autres supporteurs. Maple Leaf (talk) 14:23, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of magic museums‎ and Talk:La Maison de la Magie Robert-Houdin
Genevieve, I just got back from a two week vacation. Would you please look at these two articles and see if you can assist? Merci. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 18:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Il n'y a pas de quoi. La même chose.  I have the same problem.  I only know what I read, and I think I misunderstood some of that.

Women's Ice Hockey in Switzerland
Bonjour, bonsoir, bon matin. Je pense avoir fait le tour de la Ligue suisse même si l'historique reste perfectible. Prochainement, je ne vais pas avoir beaucoup de temps pour l'approfondir donc je suis partisan de le publier tel qu'il est. En tout cas, c'est ce que je vais faire avec la version française. Pour ce qui du titre, j'opterai pour Switzerland women's ice hockey league. Qu'en pense-tu? --Tiouic (talk) 22:06, 12 April 2011 (UTC)


 * C'est une bonne page. Women's ice hockey in Switzerland serait une bonne titre. Maple Leaf (talk) 11:36, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


 * Bonjour Maple Leaf, I includes your note on my talk page but it is necessary to write on the talk page of Tiouic. Tiouic is him who has to have all the merit of the new page  Switzerland women's ice hockey league . This page is its work. Tiouic worked hardly on this new page (in French and in English). In more he works the pages of Women's hockey in Wikipedia of French language. Tiouic is French (born in France) and lives now in Ireland. He is one excelling co-worker and can become a very important member because he knows the European women ice hockey. Please Write a note on its talk page. Tiouic is very kind and pleasant person. --Geneviève  (talk) 12:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Page publiée (Switzerland women's ice hockey league). J'ai laissé un message sur la page de discussion de Maple Leaf où j'explique pourquoi j'ai choisi ce titre. --Tiouic (talk) 16:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:2011 IIHF Women's World Championship
Hey, thanks for the kind words, will try my best to keep it up. :) Kante4 (talk) 13:50, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

re: Racepacket
I don't know and fully unstand what is going on regarding that. Haven't had been able to pay attention as I have been traveling. :/ --LauraHale (talk) 00:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * It is a very sad situation with Racepacket. It does not seem to have some hope. Bonne chance et courage. --Geneviève (talk) 12:02, 22 April 2011 (UTC)



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Due to personal issues, from mi-April to september, I will be work outside Canada. My internet acess will be very limited. I may not consequently be able to respond to talk page messages or e-mails in a timely manner during this period. Your patience is greatly appreciated. I will be back for the 2011-12 CWHL season. De la mi-Avril au mois de Septembre, je serai à l'extérieur du Canada. Ma possibilité d'avoir une connexion internet sera très limité. Par conséquent, je ne pourrai pas répondre aux messages et aux discussions. Votre patience est appréciée. Je serai de retour pour la prochaine saison dans la Canadian Women's Hockey League.

אני לא נגיש עד שספטמבר. בחוץ עבודה של קנדה. אני לא יכול עקב זה להשיב למסרים. אני מצטער. הסבלנות שלך באופן עצום מומלצת. אני אהיה גב בסתו

תודה על ההבנה שלך --Geneviève (talk) 01:34, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

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women's sport by country template
Not sure how helpful this template would be for you but I made Template:Womens's sport country topic. For say Canada, it would look like:

I've made a whole series of Australian sport related articles such as Women's tennis in Australia. They are mostly stubs but I wanted a way to easily organise my by country articles. --LauraHale (talk) 07:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Women's ice hockey in Australia
Created a stub at Women's ice hockey in Australia if you get the time and want to help with that. :) --LauraHale (talk) 03:46, 14 May 2011 (UTC)