User talk:Geo Swan/Waterboarding in the 21st century

article split from waterboarding see that article for GFDL information.

Non american waterboarding

 * Yes but we live in the information age and there are many groups like Amnesty and HRW. Link to alleged waterboarding in Sudan. http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/asset/AFR54/045/2008/en/d928e18f-bf8a-11dd-9f1c-69adff6d2171/afr540452008en.pdf
 * Indian army http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2008/09/14/india-army-killings-fuel-insurgency-manipur
 * Tunisia http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2007/09/02/fate-worse-guantanamo anyone got the US State department report that this talks about. ( Hypnosadist )  22:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

This should be integrated into this article as fast as possible. ( Hypnosadist ) 18:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

John Kiriakou
John Kiriakou's statements have been discredited by published reports that he has no firsthand knowledge of waterboarding. The line about the Abu Zubaida breaking after 35 seconds should be removed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/business/media/28abc.html?emc=eta1

Nada (talk) 06:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * from your link, it sounds like the statements should be mentioned in the article because they were so influential on american thinking even though they were likely fabrications. —Chris Capoccia  T&#8260;C 08:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Jon Stewart of the Daily Show did a segment on the discrepancy between how Kiriakou claimed Abu Zubaydah started to talk after a single 30 second waterboarding, and his account in his book, that he didn't actually see it first hand or watch the infamous video tapes. Geo Swan (talk) 18:42, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

new section Waterboarding_in_the_21st_century
I added Waterboarding_in_the_21st_century after reading about a US soldier who admitted being inspired by the CIA's waterboarding of Guantanamo captives to waterboard his 4-year-old daughter. I am not completely satisfied by my first draft.

Although what the soldier did may not actually have been waterboarding I think it belongs here because it is being widely described as waterboarding.

Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 18:38, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, according to this account it would really have been waterboarding.  Geo Swan (talk) 18:47, 11 February 2010 (UTC)